A Mondo reader has alerted us to this appalling use of “jewish values” to promote war mongering with Iran. From the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism’s call to Help End the Iranian Threat: Ask Congress to Allow States to Divest“:
The Iranian government is problematic for many reasons, including continued human rights abuse, its stated opposition to the existence of the state of Israel, denial of the Holocaust, sponsorship of terrorist organizations, and enrichment of uranium in defiance of international inspectors. Judaism demands that we “search for peace and pursue it” (Psalms 34:15) and Jewish rules on warfare eschew weapons that would kill indiscriminately and create sustained and lasting damage to the environment. As we pursue diplomatic efforts to change Iran’s behavior, it is time to support targeted economic sanctions and divestment to increase leverage in our effort to achieve credible assurances that the government of Iran has ceased all efforts to develop nuclear weapons capability and is cooperating with international inspectors.
So now “weapons that would kill indiscriminately” are against Jewish rules on warfare? It didn’t seem to come up when Israel was covering Gaza in white phosphorus. You can find the Union for Reform Judaism’s resource page on the war in Gaza here. Sadly, they were shamefully silent on Israel’s indiscriminate attacks on schools and other civilian locations. Instead they responded with the infamous statement, “We note, with sadness, the predictable chorus of those in the international community who call for Israeli “restraint.”
If they want to defend Israeli war crimes and prime the pump for war that’s their business, I just wish they would leave my religion out of it.
"when Israel was covering Gaza in white phosphorus" But Israel wasn't covering gaza in white phosphorus. Why do you feel the need to lie or exagerate? If the truth isn't enough to prove your point, perhaps you have no point.
It's been well-documented. Just as Israel used indiscriminate force in Lebanon 2006 while at the same time LYING about Hezbollah and human shields. Keep trying though moron. Only the short-bus Zionists believe the standard hasbara bullshit.
The above comment is an excercise in deliberate obfuscation.MSM.video showed numerous instances of the telltale "spider trails" that only phosforous munitions make falling on civilian areas,which the entirety of Gaza is.I guess it must have been arsonists that set fire to the UN's entire food cache.Your an idiot.
It is not documented that Israel COVERED Gaza with white phosphorus. It is document that Hezbullah used human shields and that hezbullah routinely dressed in civillian wear while waging war. Israel's use of force, far greater than used to attack it, is not illegal.
Again, for the idiots who post otherwise. Israel did not COVER gaza in white phosphous.
The IDF has admitted using white phosphorous, though so far, it has only admitted to using it in a few places in Gaza and has sought to circumvent international law on usage by playing word games with that law, and certainly by ignoring the spirit and intent of that law. Israel used the chemical in Lebanon also, as has the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, though in both cases, like Israel, at first the USA denied it. International law is for lesser powers then this dog and its tail. The US has come a long way since it spearheaded the Nuremberg trials, as has Israel since it continued the Nakba, no longer a bunch of terrorists, Stern Gang et al, but an official state abusing its police powers under color of law. http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/MUMA...
The IDF has admitted using white phosphorous, after initially denying it. It is playing with the words of international law to say it stayed within such confines, ignoring the spirit and intent of the international community. As slowly more evidence comes out, Israel scurries for new word cover when it can no longer suppress evidence. http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/MUMA...
This statement coming from the Reform movement is particularly disgusting. They claim to purge Judaism of its archaic ritual baggage, while retaining its ethical core. Some core! Will they support allowing state pension funds to boycott companies that profit from West Bank settlements? Will they support restricting US passport holders from living in illegal settlements? To ask the question is to answer it.
the jacobwolfen person should be unmasked if possible. i suspect he is employed to muddy issues on this site even though he fails miserably (more posts than any otherwise employed person would have time for).
It always makes me smile whenever any group today touts its "values." Try for instance ascribing some bad thing that group has done to "its values" and see how instantly you are going to be absolutely creamed for being an anti-semite, racist or whatever. Apparently, always and everywhere, and as to everything, and under all circumstances, everyone's "values" are all impeccably good! And yet they're all different, which is why each group has their own! As John Stewart might say, it's like the Mobius Strip of characteristics! Nobody's values ever have two sides to them!
RE: "As John Stewart might say, it's like the Mobius Strip of characteristics!" MY COMMENT: I can't make head nor tail out of a Möbius Strip, but Mr. Stewart is named Jon.
Oh, my: I begin to see the problem I have that I wasn't able to isolate before. "Values" are not something to which one should refer as casually I have done. Undoubtedly, I have used other terms with as little thought.
"The main utility of white phosphorus munitions is to create smokescreens…the smoke particles are an aerosol, a mist of liquid droplets." An aerosol disperses throughout the atmosphere, and thus can be considered to cover the terrain over which it is used.
Jacobwolfen or whatever is Chris Barrel-Roll, an old troll. He regularly calls people antisemites as the retard, Chris Barrel did.
So Reform Judaism wants to make sure that Iran has "ceased all efforts to develop nuclear weapons capability and is cooperating with international inspectors" but remains silent on Israel's 200+ nuclear warheads and its failure to even sign the NPT, much less allow inspectors in as Iran has done. Someone should ask these guys, "Why do you notice the slplinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother's eye."* *JC, 30AD
I got to "Jewish rules of warfare" and doubled over. Who wrote that one: Sun T'ju?
Do any of these so-called men of God, know of the many rapes/massacres/etc. committed by the Israeli army as well as the Jewish terror/militant groups during the birth of IsraHell? It's astonishing how the Zionists have whitewashed the entire history of this conflict.
Checkout Fareed Zakaria's new piece on Iran on newsweek: http://www.newsweek.com/id/199147?from=rss
Yes, it is documented. And it is documented that ISrael admitted to using white phosphorous after initially denying it. It is documented that Israel used Palestinians as human shields. Read the Israeli papers. I'n fed up being a librarian.
Good article, Anthony. ___________________________ The bottom line is that Iran is over 3000 years old. Israel is only 60. So who was smarter over the centuries and eras? Who knew better how to manage its affairs? Who knew better how to survive through persecutions? Who has the better army? Who invented military strategy? Who has the longest existing group of Jewish citizens in the world within its borders? And now we have this little pipsqueak who couldn’t get elected mayor of Cleveland in cahoots with a disco bouncer and whose party only received 730,000 votes (21%) attempt to dictate to us, whose president personally received 70 million votes (52.9%) ? I’d rather have our popular president with the citizen vote behind him talk to the head of country 3,000+ years old. Once Israel stops thinking statehood is a video game the US has to pay for, maybe it can grow up and join the mature nation states.
I really liked this line: If they want to defend Israeli war crimes and prime the pump for war that's their business, I just wish they would leave my religion out of it.
The whole point about Reform, originally, was that it dumped territorial nationalism (in the form of the prayer to rebuild the temple) in favour of a universal mission civilisatrice — thereby arguably jumping out of the frying-pan into the fire.
He is Chris Berel, formerly know under various pen names and sock puppet names, and also a real commenter name thief, lately "Jim Haygood." He has for the moment collapsed all these names, and appears as a single person, as SOG did up until a few months ago–aka Bill Pearlman. You can always recognize him by his SOP hasbara entries, very third-rate stuff.
But you are not fed up supplying propagandist nonsense. It is not documented that Israel COVERED Gaza with white phosphorus. It is documented that it was used in rare circumstances during the conflict. It is documented that Hamas and Hezbullah both use human shields and wear civillian clothes as they attack.
Yes, I'm your mother.
His religion was left out of it. He certainly isn't Jewish, religiously. He is some form of unitarian.
I have a British friend who lost an Uncle when the Israeli Jews "dressed up like Arabs" and bombed the King David Hotel. Everything Israel has ever done has been documented…..because they are so stupid they always get caught. The most fitting thing for Israel's tombstone is….Died of Stupidy.
At least HItler did not claim he was implementing, reestablishing Christianity. There was no official religious aspect to the NAZI party platform, nor in Hitler's stump speeches to the masses.
Strahl, brnig evidence of a SINGLE case of "rapes/massacres/etc". One. I dare you. On the other hand, Arab soldiers and especially Balestinean thugs use rape often – and very often against their own. Their own women-folk – and men, too. This is why you REALLY don't want to end up in a prison camp with Arabs… Strahl, you are documented liar. It's good to see you at this site. You fit in here real nice!
Excellent. Did you write that or did Zakaria? "Who invented military strategy? " Well, aside from the slingshot.
Can you please elaborate further? I dont' know much about reform movement.
It started in mid-19th-century Germany, and the most famous figure in it is Abraham Geiger. Obviously the Orthodox hated it, and condemned it as a crypto-Christian assimilationist strategy on the part of middle-class German Jews whose families had lived in Germany for two or three generations and 'done good' — the Orthodox thus defining themselves as the champions of the new, and mostly destitute, east European Jewish immigrants. Reform literally threw out the prayer for the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem from their liturgy. They also had a nice line in Christian-style hymns, and churchy-looking synagogues. The whole assimilationist bit. But they genuinely did represent the petit-bourgeois German-Jewish middle class. Later on, the same thing happened in the Britain and the USA (though in Britain the Orthodox hierarchy retained its special, close links to Anglo 'High Society', and still does, whereas Reform have little political influence here).
http://www.deiryassin.org/bennymorris.html Benny Morris says there were rapes and massacres. Not just one, but many. He's your typcial racist Zionist. Asked why he was speaking the truth, and he replied, because he's a historian. Asked if he was condeming it, and he said no, it had to be done in order for Israel to form.
"The main utility of white phosphorus munitions is to create smokescreens…the smoke particles are an aerosol, a mist of liquid droplets." An aerosol disperses throughout the atmosphere, and thus can be considered to cover the terrain over which it is used. Gaza is a small area of terrain, not difficult to cover with an aerosol dispersant.
Uh, prayers for rebuilding the temple still exist. Even in my little "churchy-looking" Reform synagogue. But if it makes you feel better to tear reform to shreds by whatever means possible, then by all means – keep tearing. We're comfortable where we are.