awaiting the speech…

by on June 4, 2009 16
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Here's a peek around the hall. Takes forever to download. sorry. new technology…

About Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.
Posted in Middle East, US Politics

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  1. Citizen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Obama is speaking live from Cairo now. He said his country does not support continued settlements. There will no longer be saying one thing in public, another in private. He went over historic Iran-USA problems. He is now introducing his sixth world issue: women's rights.

  2. Citizen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 11:08 am

    speech just ended–it is a historical speech and a peaceful shot that will instantly go around the world. In wind up he quoted the golden rule, supported by all three abrahamic religions.

  3. MRW says:
    June 4, 2009 at 11:18 am

    This guy is politically brilliant.

  4. Citizen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Yes. The tone, tenor, expansive coverage of the speech insinuated itself right into the middle of the internal conflicts within the Muslim world, and Obama's approach was the exact opposite of POV posited by "a clash of cultures" or civilizations. Like Lincoln giving the Emancipation Proclamation, Obama does not have the factual or legal power to meet the speech's high mandates. Surely the world will be watching the US's actions very closely to see if they meet the speech's rhetoric. Obama really put himself out there–will some congress people now openly support him? What will AIPAC do with this speech? Iran? The tyrant Arab regimes? Hamas? Bin Laden feels threatened, for sure…

  5. Citizen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 11:51 am

    One criticism, while Obama spent much time justifying Israel's stance from a historical perspective (the Holocaust), he never mentioned the Naqba while spending considerable time criticizing the Palestinian terrorists, Palestinian educational propaganda, giving only a very oblique root cause by saying Palestinians have been subject to many years of humiliation in their daily lives. The justice of the Palestinian cause was not specified–he let Israel (to the extent it has been a terrorist state) off the hook completely. He could have stated the really obvious, that is, that the Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust. It would have been historically symmetrical to do so. Also, Buchenwald never had any gas chambers.

  6. carnas says:
    June 4, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    "Buchenwald never had any gas chambers": Surefire winner for the dumbest, most irrelevant comment ever.

  7. Faris says:
    June 4, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Shall we take up a collection for Phil to take a videography course? :)

  8. Citizen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Obama in Cairo said Buchenwald had gas chambers. Do facts mean anything in a world speech mostly comprised of rhetoric, by the head of the only superpower? ""We now have many visitors to Buchenwald from the United States, and they are disappointed that there are no gas chambers," Mr. Knigge said. "Before, people did not want to the see the truth. Now they want to see what they expect to see, and we have to disappoint them and show how rich and complicated history is." Buchenwald, like Dachau and other concentration camps on German soil, was never an annihilation camp for the Jews. In this it differed from the Auschwitz-Birkenau complex built in Poland, one of the sites where millions were systematically exterminated. Though many Jews died at Buchenwald, particularly in 1945 after being forced to march from other camps farther east, its primary purpose was the imprisonment and torture of anyone opposed to the regime. Does the distinction matter?" http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Buchenwald/OOF1209...

  9. carnas says:
    June 4, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    No, that's not what he said: "Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM...

  10. Obamawatcher says:
    June 4, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Depends on one's interpretation of Obama's language, no? While Citizen's isn't the only one available on the face of Obama's somewhat ambiguous language, it also does not seem to me to a "sure fire winner for the dumbest, most irrelevant comment ever."

  11. Jacobwolfen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Then you are not playing with a full deck. So sorry.

  12. Jacobwolfen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Let's take up a collection to send Phil to a state where assisted suicide is legal.

  13. chrissy says:
    June 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    There really is more than two cards in a deck, Jacobwolfen–honest.

  14. chrissy says:
    June 4, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    I don't think Phil is ready to reside anywhere under Israeli control.

  15. Jacobwolfen says:
    June 4, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    It is not my understanding that such is legal in Israel.

  16. LeaNder says:
    June 5, 2009 at 12:21 am

    I noticed this. But strictly there are some disputes. There was a gas chamber camouflaged as showers, they could have been used for Zyklon B. And letters of a doctor have survived were he suggests, why not use them. There are different views and not all papers have survived. I once read they tested Zyklon B, there. But the general view now seems to be, also supported by some survivors that they feared it could be used for gas, but it wasn't. But many, many died there anyway. Why would they have needed to build another crematorium opposite the first between 42/43.

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