Comments on: Even gas comes through the tunnels

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:56:45 +0000

For the geography-challenged: the tunnels you speak of go under the border between the GAZA STRIP and EGYPT. Israel does not control this border; Egypt and Hamas do. It is Egypt that is furthering it's own interests in clamping down on tunnels. And when hundreds of tunnels operate out in the open, it is because it is in Egypt's interests. Egypt, you may have noticed, doesn't take orders from Israel, your antisemitic nonsense notwithstanding.

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:56:08 +0000

Any way you look at it, the available facts just don't fit. Gazans have WAY MORE FOOD AND MODERN CONVENIENCES AND LUXURIES than, say, a couplahundred million Africans. And WAY MORE than BLACK CHRISTIANS IN DARFUR who are being slaughtered by the Islamic Republic of Sudan. Why do "human rights" activists like MondoBrains not worry about Darfur? Are they antisemites? You can come to your own conclusions.

By: Tuyzentfloot

Tuyzentfloot — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:12:33 +0000

That's a very interesting point you're making. You're sure this is all antisemitic propaganda?

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:46:43 +0000

The news agencies have regular photographers in Gaza, mostly local Gazans. Well paid guys with expensive cameras. Foreign crews get in, too. The only real fear they all have is that Hamas might become unhappy, so they have to present photos and stories that fit the Hamas narrative….

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:44:42 +0000

You have all seen many photos of Gazans. You have all heard (and probably repeated) the slanderous claim that Israel is starving the Pals of Gaza. You have even read Phil's report in which he said that people appear to be well-fed and have consumer-goods readily available. (Has anyone wondered where these people who experience over 50% unemployment still have money for Plasma Home Theater Displays? Ask UNRWA – and your govt representative who send money there…) Has anyone EVER seen a photo of a starving Pal? No, an undernourished Pal? How about a hungry Pal? An underfed Pal? NO!!! They tend to be OBESE. Check out the photos. Use your brains and dont' keep on falling for IslamoFascist antisemitic propaganda.

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:50:09 +0000

Jake and his ilk here! I ALWAYS deal only with facts and logic. This makes the debate and the debunking of IslamoFascist, antisemitic and slanderous propaganda so easy for me. Mondoweiss is full of lies – demonstrable lies. If presenting the truth, the facts and the references again and again makes me "offensive" to you, then I am proud of that achievement. Wallow in your judenhass if that is what turns you on but you won't convince anyone except the gullible and already converted.

By: Tuyzentfloot

Tuyzentfloot — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:25:04 +0000

Let's say that is for the intermediate cases, and depending on character. Anyway, even in bad cases there is a workable approach. Not that anybody should feel compelled to post when they don't feel like it. I think the 'everybody ignore each other' approach is interesting actually, for other reasons. It can provide good input that is tightly on topic. It's more 'task based' than 'people based'.

By: Shirin

Shirin — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:17:06 +0000

Leave it to you, Richard Witty, to suggest that the oppressed and imprisoned should normalize its relations with the entity that is oppressing and imprisoning them. I am sure you would have given the same advice to the residents of the Warsaw Ghetto.

By: Shirin

Shirin — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:13:53 +0000

"there is a workable though not very polite approach for dealing with rough or inane environments: ignore posters and just comment on the topic." Better yet, simply skip over the comments posted by certain people you know have nothing useful to say. Saves time, and reduces aggravation while still allowing for discussion with the more thoughtful commenters.

By: Shirin

Shirin — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:05:03 +0000

Why would you think that people who visit Gaza would not be able to take photos?