Comments on: Herzl versus Whitman

By: RichardWitty

RichardWitty — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:35:03 +0000

How's your Gaza book coming?

By: RichardWitty

RichardWitty — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:34:22 +0000

You're refinancing already? You've only been there what 18 months?

By: RichardWitty

RichardWitty — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:33:25 +0000

I think Herzl was talking about his ability to keep 7 balls in the air. Politics is built on precedent. There hadn't yet been any for a Jewish state. I'm not sure you or your wife addressed what he was saying, as much as what you were saying.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:44:29 +0000

Herzl's virtual zionist world, though has some increasing competition, the ascent of the virtual world as a rival to the physical world. Witness Iran now. Smart phones. Getting harder and harder to keep the boobs ignorant, no? In the old days Rothschilds used messenger pigeons.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:29:23 +0000

Too, Phil's wife's difference with Herzl is cultural, religious, and national. What's a tree to a tree-hugger, to a lumberjack, to a stockholder in the wood industry, to somebody trying to get past a fallen tree on a pathway? Wasn't Leni Riefienstahl a film poet? What was the Blue Light? Gravity is both real and a poetic term.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:21:40 +0000

If poetry is not political, then Ezra Pound's poetry is not political, and neither is the Merchant Of Venice. An apple falls to the ground because it is of small mass compared to the earth and is never far away from the earth mass. The earth is not literally floating but remains where it is due to its own mass relative to other bodies such as the sun, along with the distance between them. Herzl was being poetic in a banal way, same as Phil's wife. Herzl was searching for the various political and economic masses and their relative distance from each other–the right mix of dreams and fears that would keep his particular apple on the table, not ever falling to the ground. He found it way before Hitler did.

By: DICKERSON3870

DICKERSON3870 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:21:20 +0000

RE: "Herzl liked to vaporize but he was political, Whitman was poetic." MY COMMENT: Well la de da! I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree, apple or a mouse!