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	<title>Comments on: When it comes to Obama&#8217;s Cairo speech, what matters are actions, not fine words</title>
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		<title>By: MelissaL</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/loewenstein-obama-cairo-speech.html/comment-page-1#comment-86124</link>
		<dc:creator>MelissaL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every Israeli civilian death is tragic, but look at the disproportionate numbers. The number of Palestinian civilian deaths far exceeds the number of Israeli civilian deaths. So yes, the Palestinians are very aggrieved. In what alternate universe does it make any sense to claim otherwise?     Here are some facts:    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2008.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2008...&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2008...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;    &#8220;From September 29, 2000, when the current Palestinian intifada erupted, through January 18, 2008, at least 1056 Palestinian and 123 Israeli youths under the age of 18 were killed in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. Thousands more have been injured, many permanently.&#8221;    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;     &#8220;From Sept. 29, 2000 to November 30, 2008: Israeli Dead: 1065   Palestinian Dead: 5200&#8221;    &#8220;The above numbers do not include Palestinian suicide bombers (or other attackers) nor do they include Palestinians targeted for assassination, though bystanders killed during these assassinations are counted. However, IDF soldiers killed during incursions into Palestinian lands are counted.&#8221;    The above websites are non-profit, non-partisan and seem credible to me.     </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every Israeli civilian death is tragic, but look at the disproportionate numbers. The number of Palestinian civilian deaths far exceeds the number of Israeli civilian deaths. So yes, the Palestinians are very aggrieved. In what alternate universe does it make any sense to claim otherwise?     Here are some facts:    <a href="http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2008.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp</a>    &ldquo;From September 29, 2000, when the current Palestinian intifada erupted, through January 18, 2008, at least 1056 Palestinian and 123 Israeli youths under the age of 18 were killed in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. Thousands more have been injured, many permanently.&rdquo;    <a href="http://www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp</a>     &ldquo;From Sept. 29, 2000 to November 30, 2008: Israeli Dead: 1065   Palestinian Dead: 5200&rdquo;    &ldquo;The above numbers do not include Palestinian suicide bombers (or other attackers) nor do they include Palestinians targeted for assassination, though bystanders killed during these assassinations are counted. However, IDF soldiers killed during incursions into Palestinian lands are counted.&rdquo;    The above websites are non-profit, non-partisan and seem credible to me.</p>
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		<title>By: RichardWitty</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/loewenstein-obama-cairo-speech.html/comment-page-1#comment-86121</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardWitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also was disappointed with Abunimeh&#039;s comments.    I once thought that his proposal for a fully democratic single-state of consented unification was sincere. I don&#039;t really believe it now.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also was disappointed with Abunimeh&#039;s comments.    I once thought that his proposal for a fully democratic single-state of consented unification was sincere. I don&#039;t really believe it now.</p>
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		<title>By: No israel</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/loewenstein-obama-cairo-speech.html/comment-page-1#comment-86120</link>
		<dc:creator>No israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david GROSS MAN has the nerve to write about the great bruno schultz in this week&#039;s new yorker.     The way these Israelis parasitize Jewish victims of the holocaust and try to claim diaspora Jews as part of their Nazi cult is disgraceful.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david GROSS MAN has the nerve to write about the great bruno schultz in this week&#039;s new yorker.     The way these Israelis parasitize Jewish victims of the holocaust and try to claim diaspora Jews as part of their Nazi cult is disgraceful.</p>
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		<title>By: No israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>No israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What utter stupidity.     It wasn&#039;t for Abunimah to reject or accept Geneva or the Saudi offer which called not only for full recognition but full normalization of relations with israel---signed by the PLO and entire Arab league and subsequently endorsed by Hamas.     It was the Nazis of shithole Israel who rejected it as they have rejected every offer ever made and have rejected the totality of world opinion, minus the US and a few coral atolls that you can&#039;t even find on a map. That&#039;s the reality.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What utter stupidity.     It wasn&#039;t for Abunimah to reject or accept Geneva or the Saudi offer which called not only for full recognition but full normalization of relations with israel&#8212;signed by the PLO and entire Arab league and subsequently endorsed by Hamas.     It was the Nazis of shithole Israel who rejected it as they have rejected every offer ever made and have rejected the totality of world opinion, minus the US and a few coral atolls that you can&#039;t even find on a map. That&#039;s the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: yonahred</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/loewenstein-obama-cairo-speech.html/comment-page-1#comment-86118</link>
		<dc:creator>yonahred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again we are treated to antony loewenstein&#039;s imprecise language.  at least philip weiss seems to write with some precision.  &quot;while it is important for Americans to realize the squalor in which the Palestinian people live&quot;.  the phrase as presented means that all Palestinians live in squalor.  this is undeniably false.  i&#039;m sure mister lowenstein considers the arabs living in israel to be palestinians, they do not live in squalor.  is the living standard of west bank palestinians worse than the standard of living of syrians?  certainly the question of freedom is relevant, but squalor is a word with a meaning unattached to freedom.  mister loewenstein does not care about the meaning of words.    the two state solution will be rendered dead on arrival by the settlements.  mr. abunimah is against the two state solution, so one would not trust him to use the right side of the stethescope to gauge the viability of the two state solution.  the geneva &quot;agreement&quot; of 2003 between left wing israelis and moderate palestinians did not consider the two state solution dead six years ago.  how many settlers have been added in the territorial arrangement according to that agreement.  of course mr. abunimah and mr. loewenstein are not interested in the geneva agreement of 2003.  they are interested in the perpetuation of the conflict until victory, i guess.  they will never be satisfied with anything that mister obama will present.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again we are treated to antony loewenstein&#039;s imprecise language.  at least philip weiss seems to write with some precision.  &quot;while it is important for Americans to realize the squalor in which the Palestinian people live&quot;.  the phrase as presented means that all Palestinians live in squalor.  this is undeniably false.  i&#039;m sure mister lowenstein considers the arabs living in israel to be palestinians, they do not live in squalor.  is the living standard of west bank palestinians worse than the standard of living of syrians?  certainly the question of freedom is relevant, but squalor is a word with a meaning unattached to freedom.  mister loewenstein does not care about the meaning of words.    the two state solution will be rendered dead on arrival by the settlements.  mr. abunimah is against the two state solution, so one would not trust him to use the right side of the stethescope to gauge the viability of the two state solution.  the geneva &quot;agreement&quot; of 2003 between left wing israelis and moderate palestinians did not consider the two state solution dead six years ago.  how many settlers have been added in the territorial arrangement according to that agreement.  of course mr. abunimah and mr. loewenstein are not interested in the geneva agreement of 2003.  they are interested in the perpetuation of the conflict until victory, i guess.  they will never be satisfied with anything that mister obama will present.</p>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
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		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;Permanent bases in Iraq, including America&#8217;s largest embassy in the world, are visible to the Iraqi people.&quot;    SEE: &quot;Iraq redux? Obama seeks funds for Pakistan super-embassy&quot;, McClatchy Newspapers 05/27/09    (excerpt) ISLAMABAD &#8212; The U.S. is embarking on a $1 billion crash program to expand its diplomatic presence in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan, another sign that the Obama administration is making a costly, long-term commitment to war-torn South Asia, U.S. officials said Wednesday.    The White House has asked Congress for &#8212; and seems likely to receive &#8212; $736 million to build a new U.S. embassy in Islamabad...    ...&quot;This is a replay of Baghdad,&quot; said Khurshid Ahmad, a member of Pakistan&#039;s upper house of parliament for Jamaat-e-Islami, one of the country&#039;s two main religious political parties. &quot;This (Islamabad embassy) is more (space) than they should need. It&#039;s for the micro and macro management of Pakistan, and using Pakistan for pushing the American agenda in Central Asia.&quot;...    ENTIRE ARTICLE - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/68952.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/68952.html&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/68952.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &quot;Permanent bases in Iraq, including America&rsquo;s largest embassy in the world, are visible to the Iraqi people.&quot;    SEE: &quot;Iraq redux? Obama seeks funds for Pakistan super-embassy&quot;, McClatchy Newspapers 05/27/09    (excerpt) ISLAMABAD &mdash; The U.S. is embarking on a $1 billion crash program to expand its diplomatic presence in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan, another sign that the Obama administration is making a costly, long-term commitment to war-torn South Asia, U.S. officials said Wednesday.    The White House has asked Congress for &mdash; and seems likely to receive &mdash; $736 million to build a new U.S. embassy in Islamabad&#8230;    &#8230;&quot;This is a replay of Baghdad,&quot; said Khurshid Ahmad, a member of Pakistan&#039;s upper house of parliament for Jamaat-e-Islami, one of the country&#039;s two main religious political parties. &quot;This (Islamabad embassy) is more (space) than they should need. It&#039;s for the micro and macro management of Pakistan, and using Pakistan for pushing the American agenda in Central Asia.&quot;&#8230;    ENTIRE ARTICLE &#8211; <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/68952.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/68952.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mamadou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mamadou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peace , peace , peace...We must believe in Peace. We can not change what was  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace , peace , peace&#8230;We must believe in Peace. We can not change what was</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The myth of a &#039;Muslim world&#039;  By Ramzy Baroud     &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF02Ak04.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF02Ak04...&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF02Ak04...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The myth of a &#039;Muslim world&#039;  By Ramzy Baroud     <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF02Ak04.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF02Ak04...</a></p>
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		<title>By: deathtoisrael</title>
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		<dc:creator>deathtoisrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was jake in Jerusalem one of the interviewees in max blumenthal&#039;s new video?     He and I agree on one thing. Israel is the PERFECT place for someone like him.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was jake in Jerusalem one of the interviewees in max blumenthal&#039;s new video?     He and I agree on one thing. Israel is the PERFECT place for someone like him.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since a lot need to be said about this silly speech,I point you to the Angry Arab blodg he tells it like every arab would.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since a lot need to be said about this silly speech,I point you to the Angry Arab blodg he tells it like every arab would.</p>
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