Comments on: Even as the world stands with Iran, Netanyahu continues to push for war http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jake in Jerusalem http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89872 Jake in Jerusalem Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:14:05 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89872 So much rubbish! It's no use even starting to correct the errors in postings like this... So much rubbish! It's no use even starting to correct the errors in postings like this…

]]> By: moonkoon http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89866 moonkoon Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:52:00 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89866 I guess I should tell folks that last time I came across Jack he was doing a very good impression of a vicious, psychopathic, woman hating murderer (no really!). But maybe he has reverted to his true character, stranger things have happened. I often wonder how things would have worked out for Jack if smarty pants Electric Jesus had not worked his magic on him. He would have been better off to leave well enough alone. EJ and his crazy singularity ideas are the real villain in this story. I guess I should tell folks that last time I came across Jack he was doing a very good impression of a vicious, psychopathic, woman hating murderer (no really!). But maybe he has reverted to his true character, stranger things have happened. I often wonder how things would have worked out for Jack if smarty pants Electric Jesus had not worked his magic on him. He would have been better off to leave well enough alone. EJ and his crazy singularity ideas are the real villain in this story.

]]> By: stevieb http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89847 stevieb Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:58:47 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89847 Did it really take such a long-winded diatribe to say you objected to the Ed's use of the word "host"? You didn't really prove that the term is without meaning in this context. It does have meaning to people on a visceral level - as it will continue to do unless there is significant change within the Jewish community. It's not like its going to break up into two recognized groups of 'good jews' and 'bad jews'. So as ugly as it sounds it denotes a certain unfortunate reality whether we like it or not.... Did it really take such a long-winded diatribe to say you objected to the Ed's use of the word "host"? You didn't really prove that the term is without meaning in this context. It does have meaning to people on a visceral level – as it will continue to do unless there is significant change within the Jewish community. It's not like its going to break up into two recognized groups of 'good jews' and 'bad jews'. So as ugly as it sounds it denotes a certain unfortunate reality whether we like it or not….

]]> By: stevieb http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89836 stevieb Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:47:49 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89836 Your dead on there Ed. And I'm still on the left. Your dead on there Ed. And I'm still on the left.

]]> By: Marion http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89880 Marion Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:44:56 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89880 Very good points. Instead of falling for "where is my vote", we should be asking where is the evidence gathered by the opposition of voter fraud? Very good points. Instead of falling for "where is my vote", we should be asking where is the evidence gathered by the opposition of voter fraud?

]]> By: andrew r http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89869 andrew r Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:05:21 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89869 "Authoritarian and dictatorial governments don't need to have the backing of majorities of their electorates; they don't ask the electorates." New thread every one! What did you vote on the referenda to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq? "Authoritarian and dictatorial governments don't need to have the backing of majorities of their electorates; they don't ask the electorates." New thread every one! What did you vote on the referenda to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq?

]]> By: Peaceful_Idiot http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89879 Peaceful_Idiot Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:02:03 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89879 Perhaps you need a dose of the Daily Dish to amp up your Freedom Fervor? You can become a Rabid Freedom Feral like Andrew Sullivan has morphed into (again, <i>deja vu</i>). I expect nothing less but for Phil to post on these issues using green text and make the banner on his site green. Otherwise he is a freedom hater. Perhaps you need a dose of the Daily Dish to amp up your Freedom Fervor? You can become a Rabid Freedom Feral like Andrew Sullivan has morphed into (again, deja vu). I expect nothing less but for Phil to post on these issues using green text and make the banner on his site green. Otherwise he is a freedom hater.

]]> By: Peaceful_Idiot http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89878 Peaceful_Idiot Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:59:49 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89878 <blockquote> Just curious, have you ever found anything P Buchanan had to say of any merit? </blockquote> Yes, and it involves intervention. I know it probably doesn't conform to the US population's perceptions of exceptional Americans that can do no wrong spreading Freedom to those less fortunate, but it's true.

Just curious, have you ever found anything P Buchanan had to say of any merit?

Yes, and it involves intervention. I know it probably doesn't conform to the US population's perceptions of exceptional Americans that can do no wrong spreading Freedom to those less fortunate, but it's true.

]]> By: Peaceful_Idiot http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89831 Peaceful_Idiot Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:57:12 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89831 <blockquote> Not sure how you think this is helping your argument that it was a black op since you are essentially agreeing that the Iranian government had some success cutting off communication. </blockquote> Did I ever claim the operation was a success? <blockquote> Why would it disrupt Twitter, Facebook, and SMS? </blockquote> It couldn't have anything to do with how such services are used when stoking the embers of a "color revolution", and is more likely due to the "obvious answer" that you never mentioned or explained, right? Instead of answering you threw up a straw man of your own, is that the norm around here? Looks like the debate skills on Mondoweiss are top notch.

Not sure how you think this is helping your argument that it was a black op since you are essentially agreeing that the Iranian government had some success cutting off communication.

Did I ever claim the operation was a success?

Why would it disrupt Twitter, Facebook, and SMS?

It couldn't have anything to do with how such services are used when stoking the embers of a "color revolution", and is more likely due to the "obvious answer" that you never mentioned or explained, right? Instead of answering you threw up a straw man of your own, is that the norm around here? Looks like the debate skills on Mondoweiss are top notch.

]]> By: tommy http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html/comment-page-2#comment-89883 tommy Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:33:43 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/06/netanyahu-and-the-lobby-will-have-a-hard-time-pushing-for-war-as-the-world-stands-with-iran.html#comment-89883 The people in Iran protesting Ahmadinejad's victory will become victims of Western aggression just as much as Ahmadinejad's supporters will, and many of those who will support that aggression are today claiming solidarity with those future victims. The people in Iran protesting Ahmadinejad's victory will become victims of Western aggression just as much as Ahmadinejad's supporters will, and many of those who will support that aggression are today claiming solidarity with those future victims.

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