Comments on: Your lobby at work: Americans helped insert new condition, recognition of Israel as a Jewish state

By: Earl Shugerman

Earl Shugerman — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:43:09 +0000

Benny Morris changed his story with each thing that he wrote. My research is that my family has been in Israel for sixty years. I am an Israeli. We have the right to live in peace without nonsense from outside of our region. Sixty years is enough. are you an Israeli?

By: Sin Nombre

Sin Nombre — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:22:02 +0000

While I'm not persuaded you make some good points, and it's good to hear (or at least read between your lines) that the "jewish state" demand is not widely viewed as an attempt to justify some future ethnic cleansing. (Although I still believe it is so viewed by Netanyahu and some others.) In any event though and at the very least still standing is my point that there's simply no way to prevent the recognition Netanyahu and Israel are demanding now from being used as ethnic cleansing justification in the future, by others. No way.

By: Eurosabra

Eurosabra — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:53:05 +0000

The Act of Union was bribery that was sealed in blood and massacre at Culloden. There IS a party that wishes to do what you intend, the BNP. Its Israeli equivalent, Kach, is banned from representation in the Knesset, unlike the BNP. Otherwise, since the pogroms against British Jews in '48, we have been expecting them, especially since the renewal of British support for Islamism.

By: Eurosabra

Eurosabra — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:40:10 +0000

Incidentally Croatia has had overwhelming emigration to the USA and Australia since the 19th century, however it was still permitted (by the USA) to recover the Military Frontier area of its territory from irredentist Krajina Serbs, once the bombardment of Zagreb by long-range rocket became a daily occurrence. Nations are allowed to do rather a lot to maintain their territory and identities against explicitly separatist armed groups that want to annex their territory to a neighboring state. Israeli-Palestinians have been diligent about keeping their movement peaceful and unarmed, yet they still represent an ambiguous challenge to the state. If they can "flip the script" demographically, they will still have to negotiate a multi-cultural Israel, and in general they have overplayed their hands with violence, in '76 and 2000-1. Also, the demographics are stable for at least the next 30-50 years, and if they aren't, what Israeli Jew will CARE about demographics and democracy if the Third Intifada in Jaffa looks like 1921? The only reason Jaffa didn't become a permanent war zone in 2000 was that Jihad isn't yet the policy of the Northern Israeli Islamic Movement, although it calls for Sharia and non-recognition in Israel. (Unlike the more conciliatory Southern Branch.)

By: Eurosabra

Eurosabra — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:29:35 +0000

A)Israeli citizenship protections are pretty good, even for Israeli-Arabs convicted of terrorist offenses, and for their families. The 2003 law on marriage naturalizations probably won't stand on review by the Supreme Court. Of course, a situation of total intercommunal civil war could change that, but by and large the problem is with people in place who can't exercise the full rights of citizenship, including 100,000 DPs from '48. B)Not really. The peace treaty with Jordan shows how futile ANY recognition is that does not take the form of an explicit recognition that Israel is a JEWISH state, not an Israeli-Palestinian state-on-the-way. Jordan's official act of terror on Peace Island against Orthodox Jews, modestly-dressed Jewish women in particular, sent a message. C)I suspect the ambiguity is because N. expects continued non-recognition in every form and continued war. You don't do extra work on a peace treaty when you expect war. D)It will put them on record as liars when they resume Jihad. This is mainly a symbolic point, but it could sway some nations that are still pro-Israel–USA, Portugal, Netherlands, Australia–into continued support.

By: PlanetMichelle

PlanetMichelle — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:44:47 +0000

"Right to Exist, A Moral Defense of Israel's Wars" that's the title of your book? You must be sick. And the reason the "offers" were rejected was because the Arabs were being cheated out of their right of return.The implementation of the Palestinian Right of Return, based on UN GA resolution 194, is THE KEY for ending the conflict. And the demand for the recognition of the "right of Israel to exist" was in there too. An even better offer was made to King Hussein and he refused. An offer was made to his father and he refused. And the offers they got were better than Oslo. No one is going to sign away Palestine plain and simple. No one can. I feel somewhat sorry for you Zionists romantics, I guess without your dreamland Jewish state you don't have much going on. You obviously have nothing real or solid for yourself. Like the lonely lady who can only manage a fling with someone else 's husband or visa versa. But on the other hand, killing people for your lack of reality is not kosher in anyone's book.

By: PlanetMichelle

PlanetMichelle — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:02:40 +0000

you must be kidding. You think Iranians, even the secular ones like the ones demonstrating want filthy Israel? Who the hell wants Israel except some freaky Christian sect in Lebanon? Pipes and Natenyahu, you just mentioned by name 2 devils, are they devils you look up to? Whether it's Ahmedinejad or someone else is no favor more or less for Israel. Israel hates this guy because he speaks the truth on TV too much. The Iranians who oppose him only oppose Islamic restrictions. What does that have to do with Israel. Everyone hates Israel, that's not news.

By: Tyler Westbrook

Tyler Westbrook — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:52:04 +0000

I went to Gaza with a Code Pink Peace Delegation, then stayed on alone for a month Here is a video I shot while sitting in on an English class regarding the Future of Palestine : Share or split Palestine? A discussion in Gaza. " target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjjExpoK4-o&fe... Here are the rest of the videos I shot in Gaza: " target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8030E34DC...

By: American In Paris

American In Paris — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:26:28 +0000

Keep your ghetto state. Just get off the dole. Americans have better uses for their money. We also have to make better use of our UN veto power in our own best interest.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:05:08 +0000

Hey. You broke a taboo. Americans are not suppose to know the real history of the I-P conflict.