Comments on: Breaking the Silence kinda breaks the silence

By: Thom

Thom — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:22:14 +0000

If there were any eyewitness reports of any wrongdoing, I couldn't find them in the report. 110 pages of reporting on wrong things they didn't see personally with a sprinkling of things they did see that amount to nothing illegal. Anyone care to post a report in there that was unequivocally witnessed. As in the person says they saw it, not just that something happened? I hear we invaded Iraq, that doesn't mean I saw it happen.

By: Thom

Thom — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:11:20 +0000

The real question is whether "Breaking the Silence" produced such a poorly done report out of malice or incompetence. If they wanted an honest report with some actual credibility, they should have identified the soldiers by code name or number, rather than just running all of the statements together. They should also have separated hearsay from eyewitness reports. The statements are full of "someone did this" "someone did that". OK, great, now, did you see the person do that, or did you just hear about it or read about it later? Can't tell from the report. I looked it over and I can't find a single statement that unequivocally says that the "witness" saw anyone do anything wrong. Anyone care to cite any? Before you post, remember, we are looking for clear, unequivocal statements that the person giving the statement was a witness on the scene and saw the event. "We did this" or "we did that" doesn't count since "we" won the basketball game last night (we being the basketball team in the city I'm in) and "we" tortured prisoners at Abu Ghraib (we being Americans).

By: Thom

Thom — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:03:21 +0000

Someone can be culturally Jewish and an atheist. You however denied being Jewish, culturally or otherwise. "No..I leave Judaism and similar lunacy to nut cases like you, thom." If you meant you were a Jewish-born atheist who hates Jews and Jewish culture, you should have said that. BTW, I never cite religious reasons (e.g., "God said so") to justify the Jews' claim on Israel. I cite facts not Bible stories. Of course, I can argue in religious terms if someone claims that the Jewish religion forbids something that is allowed, or vice versa. For example, "thou shalt not kill" is a mistranslation. The correct translation is "thou shalt not commit murder".

By: Thom

Thom — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:08:16 +0000

The first one at least blurs the boundaries. I'd say that in one of those scenes the guy is close enough to maybe qualify as a human shield. Though I note that the "rifle on the shoulder" thing isn't there. Also, the footage is from Nablus, two years ago, not Gaza. The second one is a couple of guys leaning on a jeep that doesn't appear to be in a combat zone. Where is the human shield?

By: lovelyisraelis

lovelyisraelis — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:59:27 +0000

oh..and Thom also thinks it's impossible to be an atheist Jew. I earlier provided him with the ha'aretz article, again quoting Einstein's rejection of Judaism as "childish" but the childish Thom would have none of it. Einstein: Nothing 'chosen' about the Jews, Bible 'childish' legends " target="_blank">http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/983001.html

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:01:56 +0000

Some of the "testimony" sources weren't even on the battlefield at the time of the events they are "testifying" about! All hearsay… slander… rumor.. Not a single hard fact, date, place to reference. Not one. Hilarious.

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:00:27 +0000

I havet yet to see SHINGO THE LIAR present a single factual statement. Shingo OBSESSES with this, is a hyper-poster, but has yet to post anything that contributes to public knowledge. Obssessive liar.

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:57:03 +0000

Shingo, the obsessed liar.

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:56:48 +0000

Shingo, where is your information? More stuff you just made up? Names, dates, etc….????? Well??? Liar.

By: Jake in Jerusalem

Jake in Jerusalem — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:55:53 +0000

Shingo has a pattern of making dishonest statements without references. Sometimes Shingo even invents references. Typical.