http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95057 tommy Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:28:40 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95057 Sending false classified reports to AIPAC. Sending false classified reports to AIPAC.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95064 thedhimmi Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:14:30 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95064 I find it interesting that Phil labels any publication or person that doesn't follow his Israel hating agenda as pro Israel. Why not be consistant label people like Mike Levy as anti Israel Mike Levy or anti Israel Joseph Dana or Israel hating George Galloway? I find it interesting that Phil labels any publication or person that doesn't follow his Israel hating agenda as pro Israel. Why not be consistant label people like Mike Levy as anti Israel Mike Levy or anti Israel Joseph Dana or Israel hating George Galloway?

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95056 Solow Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:25:00 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95056 Sorry, but Israel does not qualify as "the Middle East's only democracy." It has a long way to go before it is a true democracy, and judging from the current trend it may never get there. "Why do they feel unsafe in America? Is there any real basis for this insecurity?" I don't know whether any irony was intended in these questions, asked as they were of neoconservatives. My reply is Yes, there is some basis for apprehension. The program and activities of the neoconservatives themselves, over time, will inevitably raise the level of anti-Semitism in America. In my opinion, modern-day Americans are a people who are naturally averse to such passions as anti-Semitism. But if you want to find a basis for concern about it, you need do no more than take a close look at American government, financial institutions and enterprises, and mainstream media. The over-representation of Jews leaves Jews as an ethnic group highly exposed to blame for untoward outcomes. Nervous neocons, one would think, are surely aware of this - even if they remain oblivious to the role they play in making matters worse. Sorry, but Israel does not qualify as "the Middle East's only democracy." It has a long way to go before it is a true democracy, and judging from the current trend it may never get there. "Why do they feel unsafe in America? Is there any real basis for this insecurity?" I don't know whether any irony was intended in these questions, asked as they were of neoconservatives. My reply is Yes, there is some basis for apprehension. The program and activities of the neoconservatives themselves, over time, will inevitably raise the level of anti-Semitism in America. In my opinion, modern-day Americans are a people who are naturally averse to such passions as anti-Semitism. But if you want to find a basis for concern about it, you need do no more than take a close look at American government, financial institutions and enterprises, and mainstream media. The over-representation of Jews leaves Jews as an ethnic group highly exposed to blame for untoward outcomes. Nervous neocons, one would think, are surely aware of this – even if they remain oblivious to the role they play in making matters worse.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95055 thedhimmi Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:09:07 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95055 What if it was Palestinian lives at stake? Would you let them die? What if it was Palestinian lives at stake? Would you let them die?

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95054 Duscany Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:52:08 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95054 "Why didn't they construct a more difficult scenario in which . . . he had to choose to either sacrifice an American agents or Israelis.? That would have been a great test. Even so, I think there's no doubt whom Rosen would have chosen--the Israelis. "Why didn't they construct a more difficult scenario in which . . . he had to choose to either sacrifice an American agents or Israelis.? That would have been a great test. Even so, I think there's no doubt whom Rosen would have chosen–the Israelis.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95053 Un-Natural Growth Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:18:30 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95053 Larry Franklin should be cleaning toilets in Lewisburg Federal pen for the next 12 1/2 years. Let's not forget his role in the Niger yellowcake false document scam involving Michael Ledeen -- the fake documents were used by Feith and the Office of Special Plans to lead us into the quagmire of Iraq. Look it up on Google. Larry Franklin should be cleaning toilets in Lewisburg Federal pen for the next 12 1/2 years. Let's not forget his role in the Niger yellowcake false document scam involving Michael Ledeen — the fake documents were used by Feith and the Office of Special Plans to lead us into the quagmire of Iraq. Look it up on Google.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95063 LeaNder22 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:40:20 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95063 Thanks, Colin. Thanks, Colin.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95052 JoachimMartillo Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:39:05 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95052 The issue is not Jewish insecurity but Jewish power: <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/07/patterns-of-boston-jewish-power.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Patterns of Jewish Power</a>. Rosen and Weissman passed secrets because they thought they could get away with it, and guess what! They were right. The issue is not Jewish insecurity but Jewish power: Patterns of Jewish Power. Rosen and Weissman passed secrets because they thought they could get away with it, and guess what! They were right.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95062 Citizen Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:23:46 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95062 LeaNder22 is way over her head. Franklin was a simple career opportunist who saw the double standard and tried to take advantage of it, but he too was over his head. A little Eichmann. LeaNder22 is way over her head. Franklin was a simple career opportunist who saw the double standard and tried to take advantage of it, but he too was over his head. A little Eichmann.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html/comment-page-1#comment-95060 iceburg Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:21:05 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/guttman-also-talked-to-steve-rosen-he-bridled-at-the-idea-that-he-was-indicted-for-passing-along-to-the-israelis-a-faked.html#comment-95060 Look at the biblical rendition of Jews in relation to Jews--the talmud says such friction is not right--it's only ok against the non-Jews. I'd like to wave a magic wand and all Jews would go live in Israel, an Israel devoid of US Taxpayer or UN veto support. Makes me a zionist, no? Look at the biblical rendition of Jews in relation to Jews–the talmud says such friction is not right–it's only ok against the non-Jews. I'd like to wave a magic wand and all Jews would go live in Israel, an Israel devoid of US Taxpayer or UN veto support. Makes me a zionist, no?

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