Comments on: Seham: How can I be positive when I see the conditions of Palestinian life right now?

By: average american

average american — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:45:02 +0000

As a non-Jew and an American, and the son of many dead veteran forefathers and a veteran myself, speaking on behalf of all of us, we could care less about your approval, and we hate that our taxpayer dollars give Israel 8 million dollars a day, and much more less directly. We don't like supporting a country that has values more similar to Nazi Germany's than to the USA. We hate our AIPAC whore congress. We realize we need to change our political campaign finance laws, and we look elsewhere than our AIPAC whore MSM for our breaking news. We realize what Truman did, that the test of virtue is power, and that Jews as Overdog are at least as evil as any other Overdog.

By: GIVetagainst war.

GIVetagainst war. — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:38:26 +0000

Sure, that's why the German soldiers fought so fiercely too. We understand. We don't agree with you. We are trying hard to make our fellow Americans realize how ugly your occupation is, and how against US and Humanism's best interests.

By: mirrorimage

mirrorimage — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:17:54 +0000

no he's a humanist first

By: naftali

naftali — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:27:23 +0000

Those of us who served in the IDF and fought know how bad and ugly war really is, and we want peace more than anyone. (We know very well that the so-called anti-war movement is really just a bunch of communists who hate the West they live in, and consider Israel part of that West) We know what war is like, what death and destruction are like. We also know that if we were to ever lose a war, there would be Jewish blood neck high in the streets. So, you can stuff your "progressive" BS

By: naftali

naftali — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:27:07 +0000

Dana, I guess you were away at your "progressive camp" all those years that your friends, the oh so gentle Palestinians were firing thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians from Gaza? I guess you missed the terror attacks by Hamas and Islamic Jihad and the like that have been going on for years and years? You sit in America denouncing Israels security wall. Do you ever get on a bus and wonder if it will blow up on you that day? Do you ever go to the market or store or cinema etc and wonder if you will be a statistic that day. If you have kids, do you ever wonder if they will make it home that day or that one of those misunderstood Jihadists will take him or her to his death and his 72 virgins? To be honest though, as a Jew and an Israeli, as a son of an Auschwitz survivor, I could care less about your "approval" As we say in Israel, we have been to that movie before. We know that in the world we live in and the neighbourhood we live in, you don't get too far by listening to you so-called progressives.

By: GoJetzoff

GoJetzoff — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:00:26 +0000

There is nothing that can make a settlement into a "painful concession" that Israel has supposedly made. Taking water from Palestinian aquifiers is not a painful concession. Ignoring Palestinian history is not a painful concession. Bulldozing 18,000 homes since 1967 is not a painful concession. Denying Arab-Israeli citizens equal rights is not a painful concession. Uprooting Palestinian orchards and putting them into a settlement is not a painful concession. What painful concessions?

By: GoJetzoff

GoJetzoff — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:55:19 +0000

If you continue to frame the argument into one on human rights, then the rhetoric will shift in favor of the Palestinians. I showed a map of the settlements to a group the other night and used human rights terminology, specifically of the Geneva Convention. This shocked them and the argument stopped being about a political solution, but a human rights one.

By: dana

dana — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:38:56 +0000

According to you naftali, progressive = anti-semite now? Funny because the majority of US Jews actually support progressive causes, including bringing Israel to see the light and get out of the occupation business. You do know that 80% voted for Obama, right? and most jewish people continue to support him whole-heartedly (except, of course when he is veering way too far towards the "centrists"). Who do you think is urging Obama to put some real pressure on israel to start doing the right thing? You may not accept it but a rift has opened between israel and a large section of its previous supporters. You may wish to call them all anti-semites – or, as the saying goes – self-hating jews – but these diaspora jews are realizing that their values and israel's (most israelis at least) are diverging – and fast. As the saying goes – we are no longer on the same wavelength and as time marches on you cannot anticipate the knee jerk support israelis once took for granted. Alas, based on your comments – which I consider level 2 hasbara (there are 6 levels, FYI) the lost name-sake tribe was lost for a reason.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:20:02 +0000

You don't get the contradiction between the language "national liberation", and "expulsion of non-nationals".

By: Citizen

Citizen — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:16:19 +0000

Due to Google's allowance of censorship and political prioritizing in results, eventually a new more objective competitor will arise and take customers away–unless the Harmon thought police bill sitting in the Senate is passed in the dead of night.