http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97307 Thom Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:46:08 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97307 Wait, you mean people get paid for this? And all this time I've been doing it for fun. Go figure. As for PR. Since the Palestinian PR is to spin terrorists who murder children as "heroic resistance fighters" and Israeli soldiers who attack terrorists as "war criminals" when they hit the children that the Palestinians hide their terrorists among, it shouldn't be that hard for Israel to use PR to provide the truth. Well, I say that optimistically, in fact the Palestinians have the advantage in PR. They are the underdogs. Too many movies in this country portray the underdogs as the good guys for the sake of drama, so too many people think that if you are weaker, you must be the good guys. Wait, you mean people get paid for this? And all this time I've been doing it for fun. Go figure. As for PR. Since the Palestinian PR is to spin terrorists who murder children as "heroic resistance fighters" and Israeli soldiers who attack terrorists as "war criminals" when they hit the children that the Palestinians hide their terrorists among, it shouldn't be that hard for Israel to use PR to provide the truth. Well, I say that optimistically, in fact the Palestinians have the advantage in PR. They are the underdogs. Too many movies in this country portray the underdogs as the good guys for the sake of drama, so too many people think that if you are weaker, you must be the good guys.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97309 ILA Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:06:19 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97309 No Kidding. AIPAC Founder Isaiah Kenen used to work for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in *public relations*. <a href="http://irmep.org/ILA/Kenen/default.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://irmep.org/ILA/Kenen/default.asp</a rel="nofollow">" target="_blank">http://irmep.org/ILA/Kenen/default.asp</a></a> No Kidding. AIPAC Founder Isaiah Kenen used to work for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in *public relations*. http://irmep.org/ILA/Kenen/default.asp

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97314 AnaSanchez Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:26:50 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97314 Yoni, I thought 800 trillion was the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust.......are you sure you have your numbers right? Yoni, I thought 800 trillion was the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust…….are you sure you have your numbers right?

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97313 Yoni C. Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:52:36 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97313 Shingo, the number of Palestinians displaced goes up every time doesn't it? Do you know how many jews were displaced after the Palestinian Nakba? 800 trillion! Shingo, the number of Palestinians displaced goes up every time doesn't it? Do you know how many jews were displaced after the Palestinian Nakba? 800 trillion!

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97306 Shingo Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:23:56 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97306 Rubbish of course. Israel stated that the Palestinians were not allowed to return because it would threaten Israel's Jewish majority, which would never had been achieved had Israel not destoyed 300+ towns and driven out 800,000 Palestinians. Rubbish of course. Israel stated that the Palestinians were not allowed to return because it would threaten Israel's Jewish majority, which would never had been achieved had Israel not destoyed 300+ towns and driven out 800,000 Palestinians.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97311 Shingo Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:22:28 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97311 You've certainly got that down to an art form haven't you Ismail? You've certainly got that down to an art form haven't you Ismail?

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97305 ismail Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:10:25 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97305 The UN stated the conditions under which the Palestinians could return to their alleged homes. The Palestinians refused the very simple conditions - "desire to live in peace." Opportunity lost. Tough shit. The UN stated the conditions under which the Palestinians could return to their alleged homes. The Palestinians refused the very simple conditions – "desire to live in peace." Opportunity lost. Tough shit.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97304 FYI Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:49:30 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97304 You should all read the latest Hasbara bible put online (and distribution verboten elsewhere) by Newsweek without explanation; in addition to the settlement talking points already discussed a bit on this blog, here's some of what it says about the right of return: quote: A TOUGH QUESTION AND AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE Q: Could you explain for those who may not understand the right of return means for the Palestinians? A: It is basically the Palestinian demand that all Palestinians, not just Palestinians who have lived here historically but their children and grandchildren, should be able at some point in the future to flood what is currently Israel with mass Palestinian immigration. For us it’s a tremendously worrisome statement by the Palestinians that they’re not willing to give up this demand. Because at the time when we are trying to achieve a peace based on the notion of two states for two peoples, it suggests that the Palestinians are not going to be content with one state. The Palestinians are saying at the outset that they want a Palestinian state for the Palestinian people, which we accept, but they are also making demands for land inside what everyone recognizes as Israel – and that is unacceptable. A TOUGH FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AND RESPONSE Q: And yet you believe that Jews, even converts, have the right to return, even Jews who may have never set foot in Israel in a thousand years have a right to come. And yet Palestinians who actually lived in Tel Aviv don’t have the same right to go back to their homes? Isn’t that hypocrisy? A: Anybody who looks at the history of the century will recognize that Jews over the world have been brutally persecuted and hounded because of their Jewish identity, wherever they’ve lived. Unfortunately some sixty years ago, we were witness to the atrocities perpetrated against six million because they had no place to go. The notion there should be a place no matter what where Jews can go for refuge was one of the reasons for the establishment of the State of Israel. That is a very different than the Palestinians saying ‘we want to have a state for our people, but we also want land in yours.’ We accept the former. We cannot accept the latter. This has it all, covert racism, immigration fears, and invoking of the Holocaust, all to justify "We shouldn't let those Arabs come back to the land we stole from them." You should all read the latest Hasbara bible put online (and distribution verboten elsewhere) by Newsweek without explanation; in addition to the settlement talking points already discussed a bit on this blog, here's some of what it says about the right of return: quote: A TOUGH QUESTION AND AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE Q: Could you explain for those who may not understand the right of return means for the Palestinians? A: It is basically the Palestinian demand that all Palestinians, not just Palestinians who have lived here historically but their children and grandchildren, should be able at some point in the future to flood what is currently Israel with mass Palestinian immigration. For us it’s a tremendously worrisome statement by the Palestinians that they’re not willing to give up this demand. Because at the time when we are trying to achieve a peace based on the notion of two states for two peoples, it suggests that the Palestinians are not going to be content with one state. The Palestinians are saying at the outset that they want a Palestinian state for the Palestinian people, which we accept, but they are also making demands for land inside what everyone recognizes as Israel – and that is unacceptable. A TOUGH FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AND RESPONSE Q: And yet you believe that Jews, even converts, have the right to return, even Jews who may have never set foot in Israel in a thousand years have a right to come. And yet Palestinians who actually lived in Tel Aviv don’t have the same right to go back to their homes? Isn’t that hypocrisy? A: Anybody who looks at the history of the century will recognize that Jews over the world have been brutally persecuted and hounded because of their Jewish identity, wherever they’ve lived. Unfortunately some sixty years ago, we were witness to the atrocities perpetrated against six million because they had no place to go. The notion there should be a place no matter what where Jews can go for refuge was one of the reasons for the establishment of the State of Israel. That is a very different than the Palestinians saying ‘we want to have a state for our people, but we also want land in yours.’ We accept the former. We cannot accept the latter. This has it all, covert racism, immigration fears, and invoking of the Holocaust, all to justify "We shouldn't let those Arabs come back to the land we stole from them."

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97308 dalybean Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:45:15 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97308 I am so sorry to hear Moon of Alabama shut down. I did not get to the site often but loved it every time I did. I'm going over there now to pay my respects. I am so sorry to hear Moon of Alabama shut down. I did not get to the site often but loved it every time I did. I'm going over there now to pay my respects.

]]> http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-97312 ismail Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:16:36 +0000 http://d1825805.u264.foliopress.net/2009/07/israeli-foreign-ministry-seeks-to-pay-shills-in-blogosphere-to-get-out-the-good-word.html#comment-97312 The only point "America" made was that you and he are idiots. The only point "America" made was that you and he are idiots.

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