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	<title>Comments on: In Bethelehem, students are warehoused behind the wall</title>
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		<title>By: ThorsProvoni</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100482</link>
		<dc:creator>ThorsProvoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerusalem was a center of Islamic learning and scholarship until racist murderous genocidal Zionists (ethnic Ashkenazi Nazis) put their plan to murder Arab Palestine into operation: &lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/05/khaleejtimes-israel-steals-palestinian.html#IDComment22419763&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/05/khaleejtimes-is...&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/05/khaleejtimes-is...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; .  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerusalem was a center of Islamic learning and scholarship until racist murderous genocidal Zionists (ethnic Ashkenazi Nazis) put their plan to murder Arab Palestine into operation: <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/05/khaleejtimes-israel-steals-palestinian.html#IDComment22419763" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2009/05/khaleejtimes-is...</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: tree_</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100481</link>
		<dc:creator>tree_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> This is common hasbara bullshit. While it was under Jordanian rule, students in the West Bank could easily go to universities in Jordan or Egypt or elsewhere.  Most Palestinian colleges were two year institutions. It was only after Israel occupied the West Bank that it was made difficult (by Israel)  to attend these four year universities in other countries, so the Palestinians set up full four year universities in the West Bank and Gaza.  Israel did not provide these facilities, the Palestinians did it for themselves.  The Palestinians have always as a group been highly educated.  Ignorant hasbarists who don&#039;t know the history of the universities simply make the assumption that because the schools became 4 year universities after the Israeli occupation that somehow Israel must have created them. This is not true. Israel simply created the need for them, by making it difficult for most Palestinian students under occupation to attend full universities in other Arab countries, or difficult for them to return to the West Bank  from their studies abroad.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is common hasbara bullshit. While it was under Jordanian rule, students in the West Bank could easily go to universities in Jordan or Egypt or elsewhere.  Most Palestinian colleges were two year institutions. It was only after Israel occupied the West Bank that it was made difficult (by Israel)  to attend these four year universities in other countries, so the Palestinians set up full four year universities in the West Bank and Gaza.  Israel did not provide these facilities, the Palestinians did it for themselves.  The Palestinians have always as a group been highly educated.  Ignorant hasbarists who don&#039;t know the history of the universities simply make the assumption that because the schools became 4 year universities after the Israeli occupation that somehow Israel must have created them. This is not true. Israel simply created the need for them, by making it difficult for most Palestinian students under occupation to attend full universities in other Arab countries, or difficult for them to return to the West Bank  from their studies abroad.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebeard</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100480</link>
		<dc:creator>bluebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only American(?) bad guy is you. I accept the possibility that you may be attacked by a billion.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only American(?) bad guy is you. I accept the possibility that you may be attacked by a billion.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebeard</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100478</link>
		<dc:creator>bluebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why has no one mentioned that the first university there only opened after Israel controlled the area?  While it was under Arab rule, illiteracy was the common practice.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has no one mentioned that the first university there only opened after Israel controlled the area?  While it was under Arab rule, illiteracy was the common practice.</p>
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		<title>By: ThorsProvoni</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100477</link>
		<dc:creator>ThorsProvoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;a href=&quot;http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2005/07/some-thoughts-on-islamic-terror-for.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Thoughts on &quot;Islamic Terror&quot; for Professional anti-Islamists like Pipes &lt;/a&gt;:     Israeli Zionists are the bad guys and represent an evil in the world today just as the German Nazis did in the 30s. Nowadays, we Americans are the bad guys because we are allied with Israeli Zionists. We Americans have to accept that Americans and Israeli Zionists may be subjected to attacks by billions of people justifiably enraged at our policies, just as Germans whether military or civilian were subject to attacks by the French, Polish, Russian and Yugoslav resistance during WW2. As the bad guys and allies of the bad guys we Americans have no more right to criticize the tactics of the resistance than the German Nazis had. In retrospect and to this day we consider the anti-Nazi resistance heroes that fought for all of humanity. Likewise the Palestinian resistance today is heroic and fights for all of humanity.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2005/07/some-thoughts-on-islamic-terror-for.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Some Thoughts on &quot;Islamic Terror&quot; for Professional anti-Islamists like Pipes </a>:     Israeli Zionists are the bad guys and represent an evil in the world today just as the German Nazis did in the 30s. Nowadays, we Americans are the bad guys because we are allied with Israeli Zionists. We Americans have to accept that Americans and Israeli Zionists may be subjected to attacks by billions of people justifiably enraged at our policies, just as Germans whether military or civilian were subject to attacks by the French, Polish, Russian and Yugoslav resistance during WW2. As the bad guys and allies of the bad guys we Americans have no more right to criticize the tactics of the resistance than the German Nazis had. In retrospect and to this day we consider the anti-Nazi resistance heroes that fought for all of humanity. Likewise the Palestinian resistance today is heroic and fights for all of humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Moishe Mulligan</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100479</link>
		<dc:creator>Moishe Mulligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve spent a lot of time in Israel and the OT. Non-jews of both genders are treated like garbage there. In short, the level of putrid discrimination is much much more basic. Feminism is secondary to the most elementary humanism. Israel needs to get to step one before step two of basic human rights.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve spent a lot of time in Israel and the OT. Non-jews of both genders are treated like garbage there. In short, the level of putrid discrimination is much much more basic. Feminism is secondary to the most elementary humanism. Israel needs to get to step one before step two of basic human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: thedhimmi</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100476</link>
		<dc:creator>thedhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;one woman said. &#8220;But the Palestinians should be united. We need freedom, human rights, children&#8217;s rights and women&#8217;s rights.&#8221;  &quot;    I&#039;ve spent a lot of time in Arab countries.  Woman are treated like garbage in every one of them.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;one woman said. &ldquo;But the Palestinians should be united. We need freedom, human rights, children&rsquo;s rights and women&rsquo;s rights.&rdquo;  &quot;    I&#039;ve spent a lot of time in Arab countries.  Woman are treated like garbage in every one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: thedhimmi</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/loewenstein-bethlehem.html/comment-page-1#comment-100475</link>
		<dc:creator>thedhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He quoted the recent Breaking the Silence report and Avraham Burg as signs of moral collapse and hope.&quot;    Anonymous reports by anonymous soldiers, relating anonymous events.  Typical Palaprop.  I would recommend: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soldiersspeakout.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soldiersspeakout.com/&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.soldiersspeakout.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  Soldiers there are proud to be identified.  Real Soldieres real testimony.  Best of all no Palaprop.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;He quoted the recent Breaking the Silence report and Avraham Burg as signs of moral collapse and hope.&quot;    Anonymous reports by anonymous soldiers, relating anonymous events.  Typical Palaprop.  I would recommend: <a href="http://www.soldiersspeakout.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.soldiersspeakout.com/</a>  Soldiers there are proud to be identified.  Real Soldieres real testimony.  Best of all no Palaprop.</p>
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		<title>By: eitanbenshlomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>eitanbenshlomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beit Lechem propaganda usually only seen at Xmas. Good target for Xtian hatred.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beit Lechem propaganda usually only seen at Xmas. Good target for Xtian hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Witty, did you read the article?     &quot;Although they were all happy with Barack Obama&#8217;s election win, they weren&#8217;t optimistic anything would change on the ground. &#8220;His Cairo speech talked about Iraq and Afghanistan and the violence of Palestinians, but nothing about the violence of Israelis&#8221;, a woman said. &#8220;Where&#8217;s the responsibility for US actions?&#8221; &quot;    Suggestion one: Obama gets up on the bully pulpit and talks over AIPAC and AIPAC&#039;s US Congress--talks directly to the American people. He&#039;s got the power to do it, to open the eyes of average Americans.    &quot;Everybody agreed that the Western image of Palestinians was in dire need of improvement. They praised writer Naomi Klein&#8217;s recent pronouncements in Ramallah and her call to loudly explain the justness of the Palestinian cause. Bray acknowledged the effectiveness of the Israeli narrative but &#8220;when the US puts seven to eight million dollars into Israel every day, trying to reduce that is the only thing that could make a difference.&quot;    Suggestion two: Obama should use the leverage of 8 million US taxpayer dollars a day pouring into the coffers  of the Israeli Jews. Congress would be put on the spot if this reality was part of his bully pulpit speech. Especially  considering the dire straits of Main Street and the fact we are already paying for the occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan, and as proxy for Israel&#039;s occupation of the Palestinians--hell even the humanitarian funds we give to Palestinians  should rightfully be paid by Israel, the occupier.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witty, did you read the article?     &quot;Although they were all happy with Barack Obama&rsquo;s election win, they weren&rsquo;t optimistic anything would change on the ground. &ldquo;His Cairo speech talked about Iraq and Afghanistan and the violence of Palestinians, but nothing about the violence of Israelis&rdquo;, a woman said. &ldquo;Where&rsquo;s the responsibility for US actions?&rdquo; &quot;    Suggestion one: Obama gets up on the bully pulpit and talks over AIPAC and AIPAC&#039;s US Congress&#8211;talks directly to the American people. He&#039;s got the power to do it, to open the eyes of average Americans.    &quot;Everybody agreed that the Western image of Palestinians was in dire need of improvement. They praised writer Naomi Klein&rsquo;s recent pronouncements in Ramallah and her call to loudly explain the justness of the Palestinian cause. Bray acknowledged the effectiveness of the Israeli narrative but &ldquo;when the US puts seven to eight million dollars into Israel every day, trying to reduce that is the only thing that could make a difference.&quot;    Suggestion two: Obama should use the leverage of 8 million US taxpayer dollars a day pouring into the coffers  of the Israeli Jews. Congress would be put on the spot if this reality was part of his bully pulpit speech. Especially  considering the dire straits of Main Street and the fact we are already paying for the occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan, and as proxy for Israel&#039;s occupation of the Palestinians&#8211;hell even the humanitarian funds we give to Palestinians  should rightfully be paid by Israel, the occupier.</p>
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