Comments on: Netanyahu’s security adviser expresses feelings of abandonment (‘We are always alone. Remember Auschwitz’)

By: Ira G.

Ira G. — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:38:20 +0000

Uzi "Machine Gun" Arad's remarks even made Bibi uncomfortable. The Israeli Prime Minister realizes that there is no point taunting the Americans in their efforts to broker a peace deal. "Netanyahu also responded to Arad's skepticism toward the peace process with the Palestinians, who he said were apparently not ready to make the historic moves necessary for an accord. " " target="_blank">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1099552.html

By: GoJetzoff

GoJetzoff — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:58:09 +0000

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, but I sense the cynicism.

By: Sin Nombre

Sin Nombre — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:31:36 +0000

Not worthy of you, Citizen. I suspect that on reflection you'll withdraw it.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:47:02 +0000

A better memorial would have been a concrete slab of two "pages." Similar to the cartoon depiction of the Ten Commandments Moses holds. On one side a list of facts concerning Jewish influence and %s during Versailles negotiations and thereafter, during the Weimar regime, and on the other Nazi influence during Hitler's regime. A second slab could list the titles and names of the Bolshevik leaders during this period. A third slab could be an endless rotation device, always subject by computer to new input of any visitor's conclusions.

By: Doppler

Doppler — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:38:24 +0000

Here's the quote from Uzi Arad's interview that bugs me: "You are an advocate of brute force, I threw at him. Me? Brute force? He smiled. I thought I was actually sensitive. In national and international issues, force is also a language. But I do not like wars between Jews. I prefer to direct the brute-force energies within me at the goyim. " To me this is racism. As a non-Jew, I resent being lumped into this term, especially as an object of someone's brute-force energies. Is there a word, Goyimism, to describe this particular form of racism? There should be. Stop Israeli racism. Stop Goyimism. End it now. Stop giving people a pass for their racist comments just because they are Jews, or let them off because they deny them falsely "for the record" when we all know the racism is real and the denial is just a further insult to our intelligence, what we tell the Goyim, to whom we are free to lie.

By: Chutzpah 101

Chutzpah 101 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:36:32 +0000

Israel (and its enabler AIPAC and myriad of crony agencies) is exactly like the spoiled brat who killed his parents and then copped a plea with the judge, "But your (dis)Honor, I am a poor orphan!"

By: Sin Nombre

Sin Nombre — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:38:02 +0000

Well all that is very informative and interesting. Very interesting indeed, especially how there's so much myth in memory too apparently. Thank you very much indeed.

By: GoJetzoff

GoJetzoff — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:50:42 +0000

"Never forgetting" is different from "memorializing". How? An example would be that the way Israel "never forgets" the Holocaust. The emphasis at Yad Vashem is on hero stories during the Holocaust. They focus on people who fought back (see Yom HaShoah is Holocaust Remembrance and Partisan Day (the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising)) and the righteous. This makes sense considering Israel's national myth (I don't mean "not true", I mean a story that shows values) of the underdog in the midst of a hostile world. Conversely, the way Americans remember the Holocaust is by emphasizing the words "tolerance" and "liberation". This coincides with the American myth of a tolerant democratic nation which sees the Holocaust as a representation of the evils of racism and intolerance. "Liberation" is a common word used when describing the American role in the Holocaust, as liberator of the camps. Amidst the myth-telling you have to pay attention to what is de-emphasized or left out. Both the Israeli and American Holocaust histories play down the reality of the Holocaust. I personally think the contemporary German memory manifestation is important: The new Holocaust Memorial is a sea of gray stones that resemble graves and look uniform from the top. But when you start walking through it it dips and weaves and you are lost, bewildered, in a cold, inhuman space. It's placed next to Brandenburg Gate, showing that this bewilderment, this coldness that people experienced, which is unquantifiable, is part of the German psyche going forward.

By: David_F

David_F — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:43:13 +0000

"When I visited Yad Vashem [the Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem] not long ago, I could not bear the psychological overload and left halfway through." Well, that is the purpose of Holocaust museums, I guess. Keep it 1938 forever, and never dare to imagine that one might no longer be a victim.

By: Saleema

Saleema — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:40:51 +0000

Uzi sounds just like Witty! Talk, talk talk—no substance, no meaning.