To fully understand the report from the West Bank above, consider what Helena Cobban reported from Washington today, from an Israeli lawyer, Michael Sfard (speaking at the New America Foundation and co-sponsored by Americans for Peace Now), saying that there's method to the settlers' madness. Cobban:
Sfard also argued that much of the violence that the settlers deploy against the civilian Palestinian indigenes of the West Bank has a clear political goal– "and therefore, it qualifies as terrorism." He said,
This is not just a question of a few hooligans among the settlers…
In the past year there’s been a big change in the way settler violence is carried out. It’s not a secret that there’s a correlation between the rate of violence and the settlers feeling the political winds blowing against them. So today, the settler violence we're seeing is not just a spontaneous thing; it’s being planned much more than before.
Now there is some kind of leadership coordinating this effort to build up the tension whenever there’s a decision to dismantle an outpost or whatever.
There’s a clear plan: when the army is sent to dismantle an outpost in the north then groups of settlers in the south will make a swarm and go and burn fields in the south, and that diverts the security forces.
They are spreading terror to get political gains, and this is the very definition of terrorism.
We saw this already in Hebron. An action like this sometimes prevent the government from achieving its immediate objective—but it also has a deterrent effect on the government.
Not all the settlers are involved in these actions,of course, but a portion of them are.
In the past year there’s been a big change in the way settler violence is carried out. It’s not a secret that there’s a correlation between the rate of violence and the settlers feeling the political winds blowing against them. So today, the settler violence we're seeing is not just a spontaneous thing; it’s being planned much more than before.
Now there is some kind of leadership coordinating this effort to build up the tension whenever there’s a decision to dismantle an outpost or whatever.
There’s a clear plan: when the army is sent to dismantle an outpost in the north then groups of settlers in the south will make a swarm and go and burn fields in the south, and that diverts the security forces.
They are spreading terror to get political gains, and this is the very definition of terrorism.
We saw this already in Hebron. An action like this sometimes prevent the government from achieving its immediate objective—but it also has a deterrent effect on the government.
Not all the settlers are involved in these actions,of course, but a portion of them are.
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- Either: 1, a meaningless gesture, or 2, an effort to strengthen the settler movement
- Sternhell: ‘Jewish Terrorism Is Now the Threat to Israel’
- Who knew? ‘Commentary’ says terrorism springing from ’suppressed political ambitions’ is kosher
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I'm curious, Phil (or anyone) Has there been any resistance to settler violence from any of the settlers themselves? Is there ANY settler faction, regardless of how small, that is opposed to the rank and file nazi movement to terrorize and dispossess the Palestinians? Have ANY settlers stood with internationals to protect Palestinian farmers from harassment and vandalism? There are a FEW israelis who oppose Israel's apartheid and ethnic cleansing, but among the settlers themselves, there seems to be unanimity of racist opinion and action. One also gets the sense that any deviation from the ghoulish settler party line would not be tolerated.
Thank Peace now for the great maps that prove we will continue and are continuing to settle our land. We are moving so fast they may need more cartographers!
of please. "Settler violence" is 1% of Hamas terror. In the Islamic Republic of Iran it is illegal to execute a young woman, regardless of her crime, if she is a virgin. Therefore a "wedding" ceremony is conducted the night before the execution: The young girl is forced to have sexual intercourse with a prison guard – essentially raped by her "husband."
You are moving so fast that before you know it, Arabs will be in the majority. Amazing how you take pride in the fact that Israel is a criminal enterprise. BTW. I am reporting you for your racism and incitement to violence.
Oh pu-lease. Next thing you know you'll be telling us about the overturned incubators. I'm sure you think we should attack Iran to protect those poor Iranian women. Of course an attack will kill thousands of poor Iranian women and wreck the lives of countless others, but since we do it in the name of all that it good in the world, it won't matter much that all those innocents will die. After all, they aren't real people, are they, they are only necessary propaganda points, right?
I have not heard of any. Settlers pretty much by definition are irredentist Zionists.
Blasphemy, magic and a wide range of 'sexual crimes" are punishable by death according to the Torah. The sexual perversities of orthodox Judaism are as zany as they are repulsive. Your gangster state routinely tortures children. …a real (bl)ight unto nations and disgrace to jews the world over. As to the US, we boast the largest incarcerated population on earth and (along with iran) are among the few remaining countries to embrace execution. I've neglected to tell you to fuck yourself, martine and I want to take this opportunity to append that to my remarks.
What is your point, hasbarite? When the percentage gets to 10, let's talk? Shouldn't you be in Iran smiting prison guards?
I have heard of one righteous settler, the rabbi Froman, who has respectful relationships with Palestinians. He proposed the "one country" solution to Faisal Husseini in '91. I wish I knew more about him and how many others there might be with his thinking.
Not going to happen. Demographic trends are in our favor.
Unable to criticize real terrorism committed by Arabs, Palestine Now is screeching about Imaginary Terrorism, calling it "Political Terrorism". This shows how desparate Palestine Now is. They have been in existence for 30 years and, using their techniques, have yet to see ANY advance towards peace, not fast, not now, perhaps not ever. PN is bankrupt. This is why they have no real representation in the govt; the voting public – left, right and center – is sick of imaginary peace deals with imaginary "Palestineans". So Palestine Now now talks of imaginary terrorism. They are morally and politically bankrupt. Kind of like MondoLies.
Boring, your zionazi baby babble. Bubi drop you on your head?
You wish. Demographic trends favor the Palestinians under every scenario unless you know of a secret IDF plan to build gas chambers as Israel's final solution: http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=115... We all know they've been employing every other method from their historical mentors.
Thank you Citizen. It's not that Eitan has any knowledge of an Israeli final solution so much as the fact that he lives in a parallel univers.
Hamas is not in Iran, and would probabyl be unwelcome given that Hmas are Sunnis. Israel is one of the world capitals for white and secual slavery, so I wouldn't be throwing stones about womens rights.
Poor Jake, the ignoramus, who doesn't read books, doesn't knwo that everyone in Palestine was known as Palestinians as early as 1900. Israel would be a bankrupt 3rd world counttr (it almost is anyway) today were it not for the world's largest welfare cheques it receives, not to mention loan guarantees for loans it doesn;t bother to repay, and the displomatic protection it gets at the UN thanks to the US. Were it not for the automatic veto Israel is guaranteed at the UN, there woudl not only be a boycott on Israel,. but probably an embargo. As it is, Israelis are lieainv that dust bowl at a greater rate than they are arriving. Since 2007, emigration has been outpacing immigration in Israel. A recent survey indicates that only 69 percent of Jewish Israelis say they want to stay in the country, and a 2007 poll finds that one-quarter of Israelis are considering leaving, including almost half of all young people.” They report, “in another survey, 44 percent of Israelis say they would be ready to leave if they could find a better standard of living elsewhere,” and “over 100,000 Israelis have acquired European passports.” Israael is not only morally bankrupt, but demographically doomed.
Sfard also argued that much of the violence that the settlers deploy against the civilian Palestinian indigenes of the West Bank has a clear political goal– "and therefore, it qualifies as terrorism." While it has long been obvious to me that colonist violence was a fundamental component of their campaign of creeping ethnic cleansing, it never occurred to me that it constituted terrorism. He is absolutely right. Those amongst them who commit acts of violence against Palestinians, AND those who support or provide material aid to them, ARE terrorists, and this very important point should be pursued vigorously. Every American citizen, organization, or company who supports them in any way is breaking numerous American laws and should be prosecuted. It's time for lawsuits to force the federal government to enforce our laws. ter⋅ror⋅ist 1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism. 2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism ter⋅ror⋅ism 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes. 2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. 3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism
are there ANY Palestinians who do not leave the house without a suicide belt strapped to their waists?
you sick fuck
Brilliant article by Helena Cobban, seems I haven't paid her the attention she deserves.I will from now on. So far I've read the name Sfard, easy to remember, only in the context of NF's deportation from Israel.
Yoni, don't freak out over Shingo. Shingo is a compulsive liar and has NEVER posted anything useful in these discussions. You're right, Shingo is quite ill, but it's not your problem. It's Shingo's mommy and daddy's problem.
Slavery in Israel… SHingo Liar… Shingo just can't help itself!!!
Facts bug you too, Joe, right? LOLOL!!!
Shingo Liar.. can't help itself… Entire posting made up of false statements…. Par for the course for Shingo… Truly ill…
Thanks Jake,
Are there any Afro-Americans who do not leave their house without a concealed weapon to kill whitey?
Said the thought police.
Shingo, those are all lies, show some proof a recent survey ran by douchebags anonymous says you are numero uno in voting for largest douchebag in the world. congrats
Jake is a racist. Unfortunately for him, not even all those who emerged from a Jewish female's womb agree with him. Maybe he should recommend female genital mutilation to go along with snipping off that most erotic foreskin? We all know that the hapless cut foreskin is called a "shmuck" in the original meaning of the term. Hey, there's good in all; lots of money to be made in the medical and cosmetic facial cream industries from those snipped shmucks! Not to mention, the practice has made Nazi "drop your trousers" ID obsolete–although that is changing here in the USA, the only Western nation full of snipped dicks. The trend is to not ignore the helpless baby, and not to simply give the medical industry gross profits for a barbaric procedure….
Again reference to gas chambers in order to "put the Jew in his place" remind him of the horrors of the holocaust. The Jews are the majority and we will continue to be so. Arab statistics are skewed and time and again proved wrong. Check in with me in ten years.
Again reference to Final Solution s in order to "put the Jew in his place" remind him of the horrors of the holocaust. The Jews are the majority and we will continue to be so. Arab statistics are skewed and time and again proved wrong. Check in with me in ten years.
I see Joe is in top form, really contributing useful information and news to the MondoLooney regulars…
Poor little Jake doesn't know what to say, so rather than use Goolge, you call out liar and hope people believe you. You say you are interested in fact, but you clearly are not. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3203786... http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3203786...
Wow, the Zionist wingnuts are all hot and bothered over the ugly truth that those who live in Israel want to leave and not come back. Those numbers come from a recent study by scholars John Mueller and Ian Lustick. Sorry that reality happens to be anti Semitic. http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/1599_is...
Another link to a report showing that Israel is shrinking. http://www.nationalinterest.org/General.aspx?id=9...
As always eitan, you don't know what you're talking about. Jews are already a minority in greater Israel and ikn ten years, will be a minority inside Israel within a decade. These are not based on Arab statistics. Since 2007, emigration has been outpacing immigration in Israel. A recent survey indicates that only 69 percent of Jewish Israelis say they want to stay in the country, and a 2007 poll finds that one-quarter of Israelis are considering leaving, including almost half of all young people.” They report, “in another survey, 44 percent of Israelis say they would be ready to leave if they could find a better standard of living elsewhere,” and “over 100,000 Israelis have acquired European passports.”
Israel has been a main hub of white slavery/trafficking for a long time–most of the slaves coming via scam from former USSR lands. This is old news; easily available to anyone with an internet connection.
As usual the hasbara wing nuts shrink to silence in the face of credible sources–it's always the same. Zionazi BS, always devoid of any authority reference, the lamest of the lame.
They're probably logging into Zionist central right now, trying to think of some talking points. Failing that, they'll just say my sources are not credible and Arab propaghanda. You watch.
Isn't it interesting that the definition of terrorism fails to take into account the acts of States.
Of course Yoni, which is why there are so many convenience stores for suicide bombers who forget to being their suicide vests
Thank you for those references, Shingo. They just prove that you are incapable of comprehension in written English. The term "slavery" in a sensationalist headline is not a serious definition. Think of the tens of thousands of "slaves" who "slave away" on Wall Street every day. Slavery in America? Or how about those White House interns who "slave away" for unimaginable hours for their "master" Barack Hussein Obama. Now Obama owns slaves, too? What was your first language, anyways?
Yeah, right. Wanna buy a few slaves? There's a sale going on at my local supermarket…. Nutcase.
Yo're welcome for the references Jake, Poor Jake doesn;t understand the difrence between slavery and hard work. The word slavery is what it is, the exploitation of people by keeping them against their will and forcing them to perform labor or activities against their will for no money. Sexual slavery is very real and very seious and as Citizen has explained, Israel has become a hib of white slavery/trafficking for a long time. You are am imbecile. A dear friend fo mine fellvictim to such a syndicate in Israel when she went there for a Kabuz. She was kidnapped off the street and drugged for a year, while forced into prostituion. She came back completely trasumatized and catatonic. It took her a decade or more to get over it. You're a perfect exmple of the filthy and disgusting enablers of female exploitation that enables it by trivilaizing it's serousnes. Sick lilttle Jake thinks that being kidpappend or being lured to an overseas country under promise of money, then having your passport stolen, and forced to have sex with men, and often drugged to keep you amiable, is all in a hard day's work for a woman. What a sick and disturbed mind.
Like I said, you are a sick a and distubed individual, whcih makes sense, becasue Zioism is a sickness. In your disturbed little mind, being kidpappend or being lured to an overseas country under promise of money, then having your passport stolen, and forced to have sex with men, and often drugged to keep you amiable, is all in a hard day's work for a woman.
How would you know Jake? You wouldn't know a facts if it bit you.
BTW. This is the same Jake that objects to the treatment of women in Arab states, but when the same thig happens in Israel, it's all a bit of harmless fun.
ShingoLiar invents quotes. Typical. I never said nor suggested anything like this. Shingo Lies. Habit?
More ShingoLies. Boring….
ShingoLiar, that your friend went on a binging drug-trip and then fell into prostitution is not the fault of Israel. Come to think of it, it happens in countries on your planet as well. Israel is most certainly not a "hib of white slavery" (sic) and certainly is much better than other countries in the Middle East. Your bigotry won't allow you to admit this and then you have to resort to ShingoLies. Pathetic.
Coming from ShingoLiar, this is rich!
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