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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/which-smear-has-greater-impactselfhating-jew-or-antisemite.html/comment-page-1#comment-97245</link>
		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Listen, Bibi is not perfect, but unlike those democrats in Hamas, he did not push his opposition off a building.&quot;    Yes, and I&#039;m sure Hitler and Stalin were just misunderstood.    You&#039;re right about Bibbi not pushing his opponents of buildings.  He wouldn&#039;t get his hands dirty.  Much better to get a thug like Lieberman,. who wants to drown buses of Palestinians in the dead sea, to do it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Listen, Bibi is not perfect, but unlike those democrats in Hamas, he did not push his opposition off a building.&quot;    Yes, and I&#039;m sure Hitler and Stalin were just misunderstood.    You&#039;re right about Bibbi not pushing his opponents of buildings.  He wouldn&#039;t get his hands dirty.  Much better to get a thug like Lieberman,. who wants to drown buses of Palestinians in the dead sea, to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/which-smear-has-greater-impactselfhating-jew-or-antisemite.html/comment-page-1#comment-97258</link>
		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The facts blow all arguments here out of the water.&quot;    Like you would know anything about facts. You have failed to present any facts at all and refuse to provide linke to support your lame brained propaganda.    But you are right, facts, have no effect on bigots, which is why every time your lies are debunked, you simply dust yourself off and repeat them on another thread.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The facts blow all arguments here out of the water.&quot;    Like you would know anything about facts. You have failed to present any facts at all and refuse to provide linke to support your lame brained propaganda.    But you are right, facts, have no effect on bigots, which is why every time your lies are debunked, you simply dust yourself off and repeat them on another thread.</p>
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		<title>By: lovelyisraelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovelyisraelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Israeli&quot; and &quot;pro-Israeli&quot; have already become FAR more derogatory terms than anti-Semite ever could be.       </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Israeli&quot; and &quot;pro-Israeli&quot; have already become FAR more derogatory terms than anti-Semite ever could be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake in Jerusalem</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/which-smear-has-greater-impactselfhating-jew-or-antisemite.html/comment-page-1#comment-97257</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake in Jerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MondoLies is a wonderful site, which shows very clearly how self-hating Jews DEPEND ON LIES and the support of JEW-HATING BIGOTS to keep afloat.    The facts blow all arguments here out of the water.  Facts, though, have no effect on bigots.  MondoLies demoinstrates this every day.      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MondoLies is a wonderful site, which shows very clearly how self-hating Jews DEPEND ON LIES and the support of JEW-HATING BIGOTS to keep afloat.    The facts blow all arguments here out of the water.  Facts, though, have no effect on bigots.  MondoLies demoinstrates this every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake in Jerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake in Jerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ESH, you will love it here at MondoLies.    This is the home of the rabid antisemites and teh moron self-hating Jews who love them.  Welcome!  You belong here!    Say, do you have a mirror at home?  Have a look at it and tell us what a self-hating Jew is...    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ESH, you will love it here at MondoLies.    This is the home of the rabid antisemites and teh moron self-hating Jews who love them.  Welcome!  You belong here!    Say, do you have a mirror at home?  Have a look at it and tell us what a self-hating Jew is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake in Jerusalem</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/which-smear-has-greater-impactselfhating-jew-or-antisemite.html/comment-page-1#comment-97243</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake in Jerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Levy is not only demonstrably moronic, he is far from authoritative.    The video plainly displayed his bald ignorance of the issues.    Thanks for basing your stupid arguments on the &quot;human rights&quot; worker who didn&#039;t so much as ASK about Gilad Shalit.    MondoBigots, all.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Levy is not only demonstrably moronic, he is far from authoritative.    The video plainly displayed his bald ignorance of the issues.    Thanks for basing your stupid arguments on the &quot;human rights&quot; worker who didn&#039;t so much as ASK about Gilad Shalit.    MondoBigots, all.</p>
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		<title>By: v....</title>
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		<dc:creator>v....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are also a litigious people...lol  One has only to look at how the twisting of accusations are used in an official and semi-official sense. Even governmental organizations can be twisted to stifle debate,  hence the battle regarding academic freedom, see -    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usccr.gov/campusanti-semitism.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usccr.gov/campusanti-semitism.html&lt;/a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.usccr.gov/campusanti-semitism.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;    Note the definitive language -     &quot;Campus Anti-Semitism reports that many college campuses throughout the United States continue to experience incidents of anti-Semitism, a serious problem warranting further attention. Anti-Israeli or anti-Zionist propaganda has been disseminated on many campuses that include traditional anti-Semitic elements, including age-old anti-Jewish stereotypes and defamation. For example claiming that the Jew are responsible for the killing of Christ or alleging that Zionism is racism.&quot;    This takes it one step away from a courtroom by defining antisemitism in an official government organization. The next step will be full fledged prosecution like the European arena.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are also a litigious people&#8230;lol  One has only to look at how the twisting of accusations are used in an official and semi-official sense. Even governmental organizations can be twisted to stifle debate,  hence the battle regarding academic freedom, see &#8211;    <a href="http://www.usccr.gov/campusanti-semitism.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.usccr.gov/campusanti-semitism.html</a>    Note the definitive language &#8211;     &quot;Campus Anti-Semitism reports that many college campuses throughout the United States continue to experience incidents of anti-Semitism, a serious problem warranting further attention. Anti-Israeli or anti-Zionist propaganda has been disseminated on many campuses that include traditional anti-Semitic elements, including age-old anti-Jewish stereotypes and defamation. For example claiming that the Jew are responsible for the killing of Christ or alleging that Zionism is racism.&quot;    This takes it one step away from a courtroom by defining antisemitism in an official government organization. The next step will be full fledged prosecution like the European arena.</p>
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		<title>By: RichardWitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichardWitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the motivation for the tone or content is hidden anti-semitism, would that motivate you to want to change your tone or content so that the response is ONLY related to actions?    Many anti-black racists site that &quot;x black neighborhood has x crime rate&quot; siting an &quot;action&quot; but really bearing at least partially a racist motivation.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the motivation for the tone or content is hidden anti-semitism, would that motivate you to want to change your tone or content so that the response is ONLY related to actions?    Many anti-black racists site that &quot;x black neighborhood has x crime rate&quot; siting an &quot;action&quot; but really bearing at least partially a racist motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: AnaSanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnaSanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t distinguish it &quot;in myself.&quot; I distinguish between honorable and dis-honorable behavior exhibited by  the person in front of me. Jews, just like anyone else, exhibit both kinds of behavior. When discussing  Israel/Palestine and you object to killing, torture, theft of land, etc. you are objecting to the behavior of people who might happen to be Jewish. That is not anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is when you dislike all Jews with no regard to their actions.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t distinguish it &quot;in myself.&quot; I distinguish between honorable and dis-honorable behavior exhibited by  the person in front of me. Jews, just like anyone else, exhibit both kinds of behavior. When discussing  Israel/Palestine and you object to killing, torture, theft of land, etc. you are objecting to the behavior of people who might happen to be Jewish. That is not anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is when you dislike all Jews with no regard to their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Doppler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doppler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be a clear distinction between Anti-Semitism and False Charges of Anti-Semitism intended to stifle debate by silencing good faith criticism of Israeli policy and the actions and tactics of the Israel Lobby.  Professors Walt &amp; Mearsheimer deserve credit and our admiration for publicly stating and defending their article and book about the Israel Lobby, despite clear knowledge that they would take the brunt of a smear campaign.  They stood up for the search for truth despite personal cost, and are heroes for it.  Anti-Semitism exists, always has, and always will, just as racism exists among other groups, directed at various Others.  In my recent experience, the instances of False Charges of Anti-Semitism equal or exceed the instances of true Anti-Semitism, although I tend feel the sting of False Charges, and notice them more.  Abe Foxman and Alan Dershowitz, who frequently broadcast False Charges need to be held accountable for trying to stifle debate, and for constantly attempting to hijack serious policy debates by ad hominem attacks and harmful and slanderous namecalling.       There needs to be this distinction because current Israeli policies are wrong and destructive to American and Israeli interests, and full and open debate is a natural precondition to good policy decisions within democracies.  Unfortunately, the Neocon Clean Break Strategy has formed the basis for US policy in the MidEast throughout the Bush Administration, criticism and dissent from it was stifled for quite some time, and now a positive way forward is all the harder for the history, and for the continued efforts to avoid debate, through namecalling.  Non-Jews need to get comfortable with dismissing intended smears as False Charges intended to stifle debate.  Jews need to lend aid and comfort to good intentioned non-Jews who care enough to enter the debate and who become the target of these despicable smears.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be a clear distinction between Anti-Semitism and False Charges of Anti-Semitism intended to stifle debate by silencing good faith criticism of Israeli policy and the actions and tactics of the Israel Lobby.  Professors Walt &amp; Mearsheimer deserve credit and our admiration for publicly stating and defending their article and book about the Israel Lobby, despite clear knowledge that they would take the brunt of a smear campaign.  They stood up for the search for truth despite personal cost, and are heroes for it.  Anti-Semitism exists, always has, and always will, just as racism exists among other groups, directed at various Others.  In my recent experience, the instances of False Charges of Anti-Semitism equal or exceed the instances of true Anti-Semitism, although I tend feel the sting of False Charges, and notice them more.  Abe Foxman and Alan Dershowitz, who frequently broadcast False Charges need to be held accountable for trying to stifle debate, and for constantly attempting to hijack serious policy debates by ad hominem attacks and harmful and slanderous namecalling.       There needs to be this distinction because current Israeli policies are wrong and destructive to American and Israeli interests, and full and open debate is a natural precondition to good policy decisions within democracies.  Unfortunately, the Neocon Clean Break Strategy has formed the basis for US policy in the MidEast throughout the Bush Administration, criticism and dissent from it was stifled for quite some time, and now a positive way forward is all the harder for the history, and for the continued efforts to avoid debate, through namecalling.  Non-Jews need to get comfortable with dismissing intended smears as False Charges intended to stifle debate.  Jews need to lend aid and comfort to good intentioned non-Jews who care enough to enter the debate and who become the target of these despicable smears.</p>
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