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	<title>Comments on: Scott McConnell on Christopher Caldwell&#8217;s &#8216;Reflections&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Islam &#38; the media &#124; Newpapers Collected</title>
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		<dc:creator>Islam &#38; the media &#124; Newpapers Collected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - usually devoted to fiery critiques of Zionism - wrong-footed some of its readers when it ran a generally positive review - by Scott McConnell, editor of The American Conservative - of Christopher Caldwell&#8217;s&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; usually devoted to fiery critiques of Zionism &#8211; wrong-footed some of its readers when it ran a generally positive review &#8211; by Scott McConnell, editor of The American Conservative &#8211; of Christopher Caldwell&#8217;s&#160; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Surfing on Islamophobia&#8217; (Idrees Ahmad responds to McConnell)</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Surfing on Islamophobia&#8217; (Idrees Ahmad responds to McConnell)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Sunday, Phil Weiss posted  Scott McConnell&#8217;s sympathetic piece [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jewishgoyim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jewishgoyim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god! Please, please stop it! Don&#039;t let all these neocon war supporters frame the debate on Europe and Islam. It reminds me of a friend who takes his cues on Islam from the writings of Bernard Lewis. Just how likudnik does one need to be before one&#039;s writings on Islam are dismissed from the get go? I remember that dreadful past when legitimate concern about a stupid war led hysterical  (and racists by the way) Americans to rename Europe &quot;Eurabia&quot;.
I live in France, where nobody is wearing the burka last time I checked. Churches are not destroyed to be replaced my mosques and all this ranting makes me feel nauseous. Just how much arab hatred is hidden behing the veil of scholarship and research? People like Lewis and Caldwell can write all they want about muslims and Europe but they have an obvious axe to grind that should make them irrelevant to anybody who is half litterate about who they are and what they stand for.

Besides their hatred, they are missing an important point about Europe: we&#039;re smart enough here to have figured out some time ago that religion is an obvious hoax, and a quite ridiculous one at that.  It has been transparently used as a mean of political control in the last centuries and we resent that quite a bit. Most French muslims I know hold religious beliefs as relics of a retarded past. You know things you would care about in such places as Iran, Israel, Afghanistant and the US of A.
Give us a break with this retarded outlook on the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god! Please, please stop it! Don&#8217;t let all these neocon war supporters frame the debate on Europe and Islam. It reminds me of a friend who takes his cues on Islam from the writings of Bernard Lewis. Just how likudnik does one need to be before one&#8217;s writings on Islam are dismissed from the get go? I remember that dreadful past when legitimate concern about a stupid war led hysterical  (and racists by the way) Americans to rename Europe &#8220;Eurabia&#8221;.<br />
I live in France, where nobody is wearing the burka last time I checked. Churches are not destroyed to be replaced my mosques and all this ranting makes me feel nauseous. Just how much arab hatred is hidden behing the veil of scholarship and research? People like Lewis and Caldwell can write all they want about muslims and Europe but they have an obvious axe to grind that should make them irrelevant to anybody who is half litterate about who they are and what they stand for.</p>
<p>Besides their hatred, they are missing an important point about Europe: we&#8217;re smart enough here to have figured out some time ago that religion is an obvious hoax, and a quite ridiculous one at that.  It has been transparently used as a mean of political control in the last centuries and we resent that quite a bit. Most French muslims I know hold religious beliefs as relics of a retarded past. You know things you would care about in such places as Iran, Israel, Afghanistant and the US of A.<br />
Give us a break with this retarded outlook on the world.</p>
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		<title>By: America First</title>
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		<dc:creator>America First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caldwell sounds like another neocon stirring up trouble between Europeans and Muslims for the benefit of Israel.  And if McConnell finds the burka &quot;troublesome,&quot; why not the yamulke?  If he&#039;s so fond of &quot;the Enlightenment’s legacy of free inquiry and speech,&quot; then he should speak out against the imprisonment of folks like David Irving, Fredrik Toben and Ernst Zundel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caldwell sounds like another neocon stirring up trouble between Europeans and Muslims for the benefit of Israel.  And if McConnell finds the burka &#8220;troublesome,&#8221; why not the yamulke?  If he&#8217;s so fond of &#8220;the Enlightenment’s legacy of free inquiry and speech,&#8221; then he should speak out against the imprisonment of folks like David Irving, Fredrik Toben and Ernst Zundel.</p>
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		<title>By: Shafiq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shafiq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the third review of Christopher Caldwell&#039;s book I&#039;ve read. This one leaves me confused as to whether I should read the book or not after the first two had me writing it off.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/books/review/Ajami-t.html?_r=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first review in the NYT&lt;/a&gt;, basically agreed with everything Caldwell apparently, had to say. It conjured up the usual nightmare-ish visions of an Islam-dominated Europe because secular liberals are too scared of fighting back this &#039;backward culture&#039; etc., that I find propagated by American conservatives.

The second, by the Economist, found it thought-provoking but misleading in the sense that Caldwell selectively used and interpreted evidence. From reading these two reviews, I got the impression that Caldwell had never met a European Muslim and decided to instead judge them from the sidelines. 

If women have to right to wear whatever they want and some decide to wear a Burqa, is that a victory or defeat for Secularism? I would say the former.

Contrary to the article above, the demographic trends show no such &#039;Islamification&#039;, with birth-rates of Muslims aligning themselves with their white counterparts, and declines in the rates of immigration as political opposition stiffens. The amount of &#039;Islamist&#039; political activity is also greatly exaggerated, with many Muslims embracing liberal secularism, with yet more understanding that free inquiry and speech is the cornerstone of European values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the third review of Christopher Caldwell&#8217;s book I&#8217;ve read. This one leaves me confused as to whether I should read the book or not after the first two had me writing it off.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/books/review/Ajami-t.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">first review in the NYT</a>, basically agreed with everything Caldwell apparently, had to say. It conjured up the usual nightmare-ish visions of an Islam-dominated Europe because secular liberals are too scared of fighting back this &#8216;backward culture&#8217; etc., that I find propagated by American conservatives.</p>
<p>The second, by the Economist, found it thought-provoking but misleading in the sense that Caldwell selectively used and interpreted evidence. From reading these two reviews, I got the impression that Caldwell had never met a European Muslim and decided to instead judge them from the sidelines. </p>
<p>If women have to right to wear whatever they want and some decide to wear a Burqa, is that a victory or defeat for Secularism? I would say the former.</p>
<p>Contrary to the article above, the demographic trends show no such &#8216;Islamification&#8217;, with birth-rates of Muslims aligning themselves with their white counterparts, and declines in the rates of immigration as political opposition stiffens. The amount of &#8216;Islamist&#8217; political activity is also greatly exaggerated, with many Muslims embracing liberal secularism, with yet more understanding that free inquiry and speech is the cornerstone of European values.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they don&#039;t remain &quot;a people apart&quot; and so eventually are swept into the dustbin
of history--so which is the real nightmare? Jewish continuity around the world and
now also in Israel, the Jewish life insurance agent and nuclear-armed vatican rolled into one, continue a community that has defied the dustbin of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they don&#8217;t remain &#8220;a people apart&#8221; and so eventually are swept into the dustbin<br />
of history&#8211;so which is the real nightmare? Jewish continuity around the world and<br />
now also in Israel, the Jewish life insurance agent and nuclear-armed vatican rolled into one, continue a community that has defied the dustbin of history.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s good that you point out the demographic issues. A fairly consistent problem with secular liberalism is that secular liberals do not reproduce at replacement rates.&quot;

&quot;Western Europe has become so culturally and demographically listless that perhaps only the pressure of Islam can inspire it to assert itself as a civilization worth preserving.&quot;  

The &quot;exceptional&quot;, pushing the demographic argument, seeking to bind support by arousing fear that dominant status will be lost.

Not everyone thinks the same way, thank goodness.  Not everyone considers their religion, heritage or status a quality that can be preserved only through patterns such as class loyalty, patriarchal authority, marriage within the tribe, a high birth rate, and the dominance, exclusion or eradication of others different from them in some way considered significant.   

Not everyone shares the same nightmare.  











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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s good that you point out the demographic issues. A fairly consistent problem with secular liberalism is that secular liberals do not reproduce at replacement rates.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Western Europe has become so culturally and demographically listless that perhaps only the pressure of Islam can inspire it to assert itself as a civilization worth preserving.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The &#8220;exceptional&#8221;, pushing the demographic argument, seeking to bind support by arousing fear that dominant status will be lost.</p>
<p>Not everyone thinks the same way, thank goodness.  Not everyone considers their religion, heritage or status a quality that can be preserved only through patterns such as class loyalty, patriarchal authority, marriage within the tribe, a high birth rate, and the dominance, exclusion or eradication of others different from them in some way considered significant.   </p>
<p>Not everyone shares the same nightmare.  </p>
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		<title>By: kylebisme</title>
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		<dc:creator>kylebisme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A fairly consistent problem with secular liberalism is that secular liberals do not reproduce at replacement rates.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They more than make up for that in conversion rates though, and of course there are plenty of liberal theists as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A fairly consistent problem with secular liberalism is that secular liberals do not reproduce at replacement rates.</p></blockquote>
<p>They more than make up for that in conversion rates though, and of course there are plenty of liberal theists as well.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that you are writing here, Mr. McConnell.

It&#039;s good that you point out the demographic issues.  A fairly consistent problem with secular liberalism is that secular liberals do not reproduce at replacement rates.

Western Europe has become so culturally and demographically listless that perhaps only the pressure of Islam can inspire it to assert itself as a civilization worth preserving.  The alternative may be serious ethnic/religious conflict between right-wing Europeans and Moslems, with a liberal elite despised by both caught in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that you are writing here, Mr. McConnell.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good that you point out the demographic issues.  A fairly consistent problem with secular liberalism is that secular liberals do not reproduce at replacement rates.</p>
<p>Western Europe has become so culturally and demographically listless that perhaps only the pressure of Islam can inspire it to assert itself as a civilization worth preserving.  The alternative may be serious ethnic/religious conflict between right-wing Europeans and Moslems, with a liberal elite despised by both caught in the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
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		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BETTER LINK TO SILVERSTEIN POST -   http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/08/29/the-pope-crushed-galileo-now-ben-gurion-seeks-to-crush-gordon/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BETTER LINK TO SILVERSTEIN POST &#8211;   <a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/08/29/the-pope-crushed-galileo-now-ben-gurion-seeks-to-crush-gordon/">link to richardsilverstein.com</a></p>
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