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	<title>Comments on: Berman&#8217;s Iran drumbeat to Jewish leaders sure sounds a lot like Iraq drumbeat</title>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Others have argued with this, claiming Iraq was a war for oil, but they have had a hard time making the case. &lt;/i&gt;

Saying the oil arguments have a &quot;hard time&quot; is being generous.   They&#039;ve failed miserably in presenting a case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Others have argued with this, claiming Iraq was a war for oil, but they have had a hard time making the case. </i></p>
<p>Saying the oil arguments have a &#8220;hard time&#8221; is being generous.   They&#8217;ve failed miserably in presenting a case.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard - A suggestion for a book to be studied, roundtable fashion:
Eyal Weizman&#039;s &lt;em&gt;HOLLOWLAND: Israel&#039;s Architecture of Occupation
http://www.versobooks.com/books/tuvwxyz/w-titles/weizman_e_hollow_land.shtml
&lt;blockquote&gt;Groundbreaking exposé of Israel’s terrifying reconceptualization of geopolitics in the Occupied Territories and beyond

Hollow Land is a groundbreaking exploration of the political space created by Israel’s colonial occupation. In this journey from the deep subterranean spaces of the West Bank and Gaza to their militarized airspace, Weizman unravels Israel’s mechanisms of control and its transformation of the Occupied Territories into a theoretically constructed artifice, in which natural and built features function as the weapons and ammunition with which the conflict is waged.

Weizman traces the development of these ideas, from the influence of archaeology on urban planning, Ariel Sharon’s reconceptualization of military defense during the 1973 war, through the planning and architecture of the settlements, to contemporary Israeli discourse and practice of urban warfare. In exploring Israel’s methods to transform the landscape itself into a tool of total domination and control, Hollow Land lays bare the political system at the heart of this complex and terrifying project of late-modern colonial occupation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8211; A suggestion for a book to be studied, roundtable fashion:<br />
Eyal Weizman&#8217;s <em>HOLLOWLAND: Israel&#8217;s Architecture of Occupation<br />
<a href="http://www.versobooks.com/books/tuvwxyz/w-titles/weizman_e_hollow_land.shtml">link to versobooks.com</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Groundbreaking exposé of Israel’s terrifying reconceptualization of geopolitics in the Occupied Territories and beyond</p>
<p>Hollow Land is a groundbreaking exploration of the political space created by Israel’s colonial occupation. In this journey from the deep subterranean spaces of the West Bank and Gaza to their militarized airspace, Weizman unravels Israel’s mechanisms of control and its transformation of the Occupied Territories into a theoretically constructed artifice, in which natural and built features function as the weapons and ammunition with which the conflict is waged.</p>
<p>Weizman traces the development of these ideas, from the influence of archaeology on urban planning, Ariel Sharon’s reconceptualization of military defense during the 1973 war, through the planning and architecture of the settlements, to contemporary Israeli discourse and practice of urban warfare. In exploring Israel’s methods to transform the landscape itself into a tool of total domination and control, Hollow Land lays bare the political system at the heart of this complex and terrifying project of late-modern colonial occupation.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enmity&#039;s perfectly understandable - in both directions.  It&#039;s the actual warmongering (and hijacking of American Jewish communal life to that end) that is making me very very nervous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enmity&#8217;s perfectly understandable &#8211; in both directions.  It&#8217;s the actual warmongering (and hijacking of American Jewish communal life to that end) that is making me very very nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume you&#039;re referring to Ahmadinejad. The &quot;nutty&quot; Ahmadinejad is largely a caricature crafted by the Zionist-dominated U.S. mainstream media. In reading though some of his writings, as translated by those well-versed in Farsi as opposed to those sitting in Zionist think tanks, I&#039;ve found that he is not so nutty. Remember, he didn&#039;t call for Israel to be wiped off the map, though we were told so a billion times by our wonderful, impartial media.

Anyway, he has no power over their military. The Supreme Leader and those around him do, and they appear to be much more level-headed than Israel&#039;s aggressive leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume you&#8217;re referring to Ahmadinejad. The &#8220;nutty&#8221; Ahmadinejad is largely a caricature crafted by the Zionist-dominated U.S. mainstream media. In reading though some of his writings, as translated by those well-versed in Farsi as opposed to those sitting in Zionist think tanks, I&#8217;ve found that he is not so nutty. Remember, he didn&#8217;t call for Israel to be wiped off the map, though we were told so a billion times by our wonderful, impartial media.</p>
<p>Anyway, he has no power over their military. The Supreme Leader and those around him do, and they appear to be much more level-headed than Israel&#8217;s aggressive leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: potsherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>potsherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should Iran renounce its right to self-defense against a nuclear-armed enemy that constantly threatens it?   Don&#039;t forget that Israel has &quot;funded, encouraged, armed and trained militias and terrorists&quot; to operate against Iran.

Why doesn&#039;t Israel renounce aggressive wars against its neighbors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should Iran renounce its right to self-defense against a nuclear-armed enemy that constantly threatens it?   Don&#8217;t forget that Israel has &#8220;funded, encouraged, armed and trained militias and terrorists&#8221; to operate against Iran.</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t Israel renounce aggressive wars against its neighbors?</p>
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		<title>By: potsherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>potsherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel sold weapons to Iran during the Iran/Iraq war, to the same Islamic Republic they now demonize.  Later, they shifted demons.

The US has demonized Iran ever since the revolution and the hostage crisis.  I&#039;m not sure that they couldn&#039;t successfully manage to blame an Israeli attack on  Iran, the notion of the &quot;Iran threat&quot; being so indelibly branded in the public consciousness.  Israel has gotten away with so much aggression up to now, including bombing raids on Iraq and Syria.  Just as with 9/11, any suggestion that fallout from an Iran attack would be Israeli&#039;s fault would be met with shrieks of &quot;anti-Semitism.&quot;

otoh, anyone who sees the level of hate and racism breaking to the surface of the US would have to be extremely worried that it could be turned on the Jews when the fallout does hit the fan.   Those people are ready to hate anyone and only want a target.  Then they will point to meetings like this as proof that &quot;It&#039;s all the fault of Teh Jooz.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel sold weapons to Iran during the Iran/Iraq war, to the same Islamic Republic they now demonize.  Later, they shifted demons.</p>
<p>The US has demonized Iran ever since the revolution and the hostage crisis.  I&#8217;m not sure that they couldn&#8217;t successfully manage to blame an Israeli attack on  Iran, the notion of the &#8220;Iran threat&#8221; being so indelibly branded in the public consciousness.  Israel has gotten away with so much aggression up to now, including bombing raids on Iraq and Syria.  Just as with 9/11, any suggestion that fallout from an Iran attack would be Israeli&#8217;s fault would be met with shrieks of &#8220;anti-Semitism.&#8221;</p>
<p>otoh, anyone who sees the level of hate and racism breaking to the surface of the US would have to be extremely worried that it could be turned on the Jews when the fallout does hit the fan.   Those people are ready to hate anyone and only want a target.  Then they will point to meetings like this as proof that &#8220;It&#8217;s all the fault of Teh Jooz.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wondering jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondering jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The defense minister of Iran is wanted by Interpol for his role in planning the bombing of a Jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires.  But let&#039;s not mention facts that support Jewish enmity for the current regime in Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The defense minister of Iran is wanted by Interpol for his role in planning the bombing of a Jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires.  But let&#8217;s not mention facts that support Jewish enmity for the current regime in Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: wondering jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondering jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The recent  Washington-Tel Aviv meddling in the June 2009 election for the &quot;regime change&quot; has even turned many of the secular Iranian intellectuals against the US.&quot;  Can you provide some evidence for this or is this just another assertion based on nothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The recent  Washington-Tel Aviv meddling in the June 2009 election for the &#8220;regime change&#8221; has even turned many of the secular Iranian intellectuals against the US.&#8221;  Can you provide some evidence for this or is this just another assertion based on nothing?</p>
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		<title>By: wondering jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondering jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Now the Zionists are to blame for the US entry into WWI.  Does that mean the Jews or just the Zionists.  Next the Zionists will be blamed for the American Civil War.  Blankfort must be getting his information from the Hamas Charter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Now the Zionists are to blame for the US entry into WWI.  Does that mean the Jews or just the Zionists.  Next the Zionists will be blamed for the American Civil War.  Blankfort must be getting his information from the Hamas Charter!</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing that will prevent Iran from getting a nuke.  The question is how to make sure that it doesn&#039;t feel compelled to use it.  Hint: urging its destruction is not helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing that will prevent Iran from getting a nuke.  The question is how to make sure that it doesn&#8217;t feel compelled to use it.  Hint: urging its destruction is not helpful.</p>
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