Comments on: Goldstone went to Gaza’s Ground Zero: the police massacre

By: The Progressive Mind » It’s all spin: Not one of Goldstone’s 37 factual assertions has been rebutted

Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:17:27 +0000

[...] Goldstone went to Gaza’s Ground Zero: the police massacre [...]

By: DICKERSON3870

DICKERSON3870 — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:00:44 +0000

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By: DICKERSON3870

DICKERSON3870 — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:53:07 +0000

RE: “Who was not moved by the wanton murders of 400 of New York’s finest on 9/11–out of a city of 7 million?”

MY COMMENT: Yes, indeed! And this reminds me of what might very well be yet another “inconvenient truth”.

On a television (PBS, I think – possibly a 2 hour ‘Frontline’special) documentary about “why the Twin Towers collased”, the project architect for the buildings (admittedly not impartial) stated that the Twin Towers were designed to survive the type of airplane impacts and accompanying fires that occured on 9/11. He attributed the catastrophic failure of the buildings to the fact that there was a problem with the fireproofing that had been applied to the structural steel beams during the initial construction. This fireproofing was intended to ensure that in the event of a fire, the steel would not get hot enough to lose so much of it’s tensile strenth as to no longer remain rigid under the weight it supported. Unfortunately, this fireproofing material (much of it was apparently asbestos*) had begun flaking off the steel beams, leaving them exposed in varying degrees to the full heat of a potential fire. According to him, the ‘Port Authority’ (of NY & NJ, owner** of the Twin Towers) was aware of this problem and had “plans” to begin repairng/replacing the fireproofing but had not yet gotten around to it. Although he did not directly state so, I GOT THE DISTINCT IMPRESSION (CORRECTLY OR NOT) THAT HE CONSIDERED THE ‘PORT AUTHORITY’ DERELICT IN NOT HAVING DEALT WITH THE FIREPROOFING ISSUE IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER.

*the involvement of asbestos would make the task or repairng/replacing the fireproofing a real nightmare because of the tremendous expense involved with asbestos removal. I have read (but have no independent knowledge) that the cost of such a project would have exceeded the value of the Twin Towers in good shape (absent fireproofing/asbestos issues).

**subject to a 99 year lease executed a few months before 9/11, AS I UNDERSTAND IT)

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By: UN-Truth » U.S. State Department wants to limit reaction to Goldstone report on Gaza war

Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:05:53 +0000

[...] Weiss wrote here that: highlighting “the thunderclap that started the Gaza onslaught” is one of the [...]

By: Chaos4700

Chaos4700 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:43:52 +0000

Well if you have absolutely no clue, why are you even saying anything?

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:35:15 +0000

I don’t know. How will you be able to tell one way or another?

By: Chaos4700

Chaos4700 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:53:55 +0000

Really? And how has Israel changed thus far with Obama’s “turn my head and ignore what Israel is doing” strategy? Last time I checked, US-mediated negotiations are failing faster than John McCain’s candidacy in an economic crisis.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:12:23 +0000

That is the significance of Obama’s approach. Not judgement and punishment, but improvement.

By: Richard Witty

Richard Witty — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:11:22 +0000

Actually that is false. What will save the lives of a policeman, a child, a teacher is reform.

Reform of Israel certainly, but also reform of Hamas.

By: Margaret

Margaret — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:15:26 +0000

So, Richard Witty – what good would branding Israel for war crimes do? Ever consider it might save the life of a policeman, or a child, or a teacher…

Accountability is necessary for rsolution – and not just in Gaza.