Comments on: My wife offers her version of Kopechne’s death http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 15:50:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: Margaret http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-108179 Margaret Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:57:34 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-108179 Post traumatic stress... Post traumatic stress…

]]> By: doug http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-108092 doug Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:41:13 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-108092 Richard, <i>You have wonderful women in your life. Your mother, your wife, your sisters.</i> I concur. Richard,
You have wonderful women in your life. Your mother, your wife, your sisters.
I concur.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-108006 Citizen Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:40:15 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-108006 Mooser sees that Phil is saying he treasures all his wife's insights although he does not know where her facts ever come from, those supporting her insights. He also apparently feels no need to find out, ever. If that doesn't play out like Archie Bunker's blend of love and disrespect for his TV wife, Edith, what does? Further, Mooser's take on Phil's relationship with his mother is not unfounded, given what Phil has told us on this blog--he ostensibly merely insults his mother by keeping his own contrary opinions, which is actually not an insult, although his mother might think so. In contrast, he insults his wife apparently by never even bothering to fact check her and bragging about it here-- I'm not sure what to make about the exchange on the used car and Kennedy by the trio. It seems Phil's mom is a doctrinaire liberal, his wife is a middle roader (does she know the pros and cons of Kennedy's "legislative contributions, e.g., the 1965 Immigration Act?) and Phil is neither in that he looks more closely than his mother at liberal politics, especially regarding Israel, while his wife basically goes along with whatever his pet peeve is at the moment, which in the case of Israeli and USA foreign policy has been, I'm sure she'd agree, a very long moment--Phil has never given us his wife's view of USA foreign policy regarding Israel over the last say 40 years--maybe because she's never had her own opinion, as she had none on Kennedy's legislative history? No doubt Phil loves both his mother and wife unconditionally, and he wants to keep it that way by not arguing with his mother or eliciting his wife's opinion, and a follow up to that after she researches the topic--which apparently she has not done. I'm guessing from the fragments Phil gives us. Mooser sees that Phil is saying he treasures all his wife’s insights although he does not know where her facts ever come from, those supporting her insights. He also
apparently feels no need to find out, ever. If that doesn’t play out like Archie Bunker’s blend of love and disrespect for his TV wife, Edith, what does?

Further, Mooser’s take on Phil’s relationship with his mother is not unfounded, given
what Phil has told us on this blog–he ostensibly merely insults his mother by keeping his own contrary opinions, which is actually not an insult, although his mother might think so. In contrast, he insults his wife apparently by never
even bothering to fact check her and bragging about it here– I’m not sure
what to make about the exchange on the used car and Kennedy by the trio.
It seems Phil’s mom is a doctrinaire liberal, his wife is a middle roader (does she know the pros and cons of Kennedy’s “legislative contributions, e.g., the 1965
Immigration Act?)
and Phil is neither in that he looks more closely than his mother at liberal
politics, especially regarding Israel, while his wife basically goes along with
whatever his pet peeve is at the moment, which in the case of Israeli and USA foreign policy has been, I’m sure she’d agree, a very long moment–Phil has
never given us his wife’s view of USA foreign policy regarding Israel over the last say 40 years–maybe because she’s never had her own opinion, as she had none
on Kennedy’s legislative history? No doubt Phil loves both his mother and wife
unconditionally, and he wants to keep it that way by not arguing with his mother
or eliciting his wife’s opinion, and a follow up to that after she researches the topic–which apparently she has not done. I’m guessing from the fragments Phil gives us.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-108001 Citizen Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:16:02 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-108001 This must be a girly-man joke, right? Sounds like The Litvaks' match is the scooter. This must be a girly-man joke, right? Sounds like The Litvaks’ match is the scooter.

]]> By: Oscar http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-107998 Oscar Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:12:38 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-107998 Whoa, there, Mooser. Where the hell is that coming from? Whoa, there, Mooser. Where the hell is that coming from?

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-107993 Mooser Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:04:04 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-107993 <i>"I never know where my wife’s facts come from. She doesn’t deal in facts the way I do, but it is true that I treasure all her insights"</i> You are a fucking male-chauvinist pig, aren't you, Phil? For a guy who is still in terror of his Mom at fifty, that is pathetic. But just keep insulting your wife in a public blog. She'll like it. “I never know where my wife’s facts come from. She doesn’t deal in facts the way I do, but it is true that I treasure all her insights”

You are a fucking male-chauvinist pig, aren’t you, Phil? For a guy who is still in terror of his Mom at fifty, that is pathetic.
But just keep insulting your wife in a public blog. She’ll like it.

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-107990 Mooser Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:01:38 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-107990 BTW, Real Jews, like me and <i>The Litvaks</i> (my all Hebraic motorcycle gang) drive sport-bikes. And nothing smaller than a liter! BTW, Real Jews, like me and The Litvaks (my all Hebraic motorcycle gang) drive sport-bikes. And nothing smaller than a liter!

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-107988 Mooser Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:59:21 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-107988 Poor Phil. You are too old to still be pushed around by women. But then again, you'll probably expire without growing up, from what I can see. Poor Phil. You are too old to still be pushed around by women.
But then again, you’ll probably expire without growing up, from what I can see.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-107871 Citizen Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:13:13 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-107871 Phil's wife says, according to Phil: "My wife said flatly that she wouldn’t read it. "We know what happened, it’s actually pretty simple. He got in the car with another woman, Mary Jo was in the back seat, she’d gone there to sleep. I do that at parties all the time, go to sleep in a car. He and the other woman escaped the car, but Mary Jo died. He paid off the family." I guess that means that Phil's wife identifies with Mary Jo, who died while Meathead was doing what he did, yet at the same time she's ok with Meathead's family paying off the harmed family? Uxorious? Phil, you should ask your wife what ethics and morality she is displaying because we sure don't know. That matters less than a crappy image car (although its apparently functional) in terms of her values? Phil’s wife says, according to Phil:
“My wife said flatly that she wouldn’t read it. “We know what happened, it’s actually pretty simple. He got in the car with another woman, Mary Jo was in the back seat, she’d gone there to sleep. I do that at parties all the time, go to sleep in a car. He and the other woman escaped the car, but Mary Jo died. He paid off the family.”

I guess that means that Phil’s wife identifies with Mary Jo, who died while Meathead
was doing what he did, yet at the same time she’s ok with Meathead’s family paying off
the harmed family? Uxorious? Phil, you should ask your wife what ethics and morality
she is displaying because we sure don’t know. That matters less than a crappy image car (although its apparently functional)
in terms of her values?

]]> By: Chu http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/my-wife-gives-her-version-of-the-mary-jo-kopechne-death.html/comment-page-1#comment-107836 Chu Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:05:48 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=8960#comment-107836 I didn't realize there is a word for zealous fondness or submissiveness to one's wife. That is hillarious... I didn’t realize there is a word for zealous fondness or submissiveness to one’s wife. That is hillarious…

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