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	<title>Comments on: Roger Ebert amends his review of the Toronto protest</title>
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	<description>The War of Ideas in the Middle East</description>
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		<title>By: MRW</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109468</link>
		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palestine issued coinage and paper money, which if you understand the history of currency and it&#039;s relationship to the legal structure of a country makes it significant. But I am not about to give you a history lesson now. As for the leader? It was the Grand Mufti.

Israel, technically, is not a state now. It does not have defined borders and it lacks a constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palestine issued coinage and paper money, which if you understand the history of currency and it&#8217;s relationship to the legal structure of a country makes it significant. But I am not about to give you a history lesson now. As for the leader? It was the Grand Mufti.</p>
<p>Israel, technically, is not a state now. It does not have defined borders and it lacks a constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: munro</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109276</link>
		<dc:creator>munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 to sign was Ari Emanuel brother of Rahm and the model for Ari Gold of Entourage, a show that inserts lots of pro-Israel elements.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/218726789_e73f533430_o.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 to sign was Ari Emanuel brother of Rahm and the model for Ari Gold of Entourage, a show that inserts lots of pro-Israel elements.<br />
<a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/218726789_e73f533430_o.jpg">link to farm1.static.flickr.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: munro</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109272</link>
		<dc:creator>munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The petition and signatories:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/218726789_e73f533430_o.jpg

Check out the comments on this blog in response to a protest against the petition:
http://www.akramawad.com/2006/08/urgent-action-alert-its-all-in-your.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The petition and signatories:<br />
<a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/218726789_e73f533430_o.jpg">link to farm1.static.flickr.com</a></p>
<p>Check out the comments on this blog in response to a protest against the petition:<br />
<a href="http://www.akramawad.com/2006/08/urgent-action-alert-its-all-in-your.html">link to akramawad.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: tree</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109264</link>
		<dc:creator>tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of the actors listed in the 2006 petition are not in fact liberals, nor would they ever categorize themselves that way.  Hopper, Stallone, Wills, Johnson, Woods, and Heaton in particular would more correctly categorize themselves as either  conservatives or moderate Republicans. Although I wonder if  the term &quot;moderate Republican&quot; isn&#039;t an oxymoron these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the actors listed in the 2006 petition are not in fact liberals, nor would they ever categorize themselves that way.  Hopper, Stallone, Wills, Johnson, Woods, and Heaton in particular would more correctly categorize themselves as either  conservatives or moderate Republicans. Although I wonder if  the term &#8220;moderate Republican&#8221; isn&#8217;t an oxymoron these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos4700</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaos4700</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One notes that when Palestine belonged to the Palestinians it was home to Christians, Muslims &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Jews. That all changed in 1948 thanks to a gang of well armed, well funded immigrants of European descent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One notes that when Palestine belonged to the Palestinians it was home to Christians, Muslims <i>and</i> Jews. That all changed in 1948 thanks to a gang of well armed, well funded immigrants of European descent.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109251</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kidman et al know which side their bread is buttered 0n. That&#039;s most of Hollywood.
They are not only intentionally ignorant, but proud of it because they think so little of the masses who come to their films. If not, they are merely easily manipulated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kidman et al know which side their bread is buttered 0n. That&#8217;s most of Hollywood.<br />
They are not only intentionally ignorant, but proud of it because they think so little of the masses who come to their films. If not, they are merely easily manipulated.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109250</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Witty, do you expect all gentiles to renounce their quality? Do you think gentiles can renounce that or their human-ness? You say you could easily renounce where you live, the place where you grew up,  that gave you your freedom and privileges, which was the USA, and yet you expect that the USA should not honor similar Palestinian aspirations? What&#039;s required to convince you, Witty, an aryan-looking Paul Neuman
in the prequel to Exodus, called Nakba?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Witty, do you expect all gentiles to renounce their quality? Do you think gentiles can renounce that or their human-ness? You say you could easily renounce where you live, the place where you grew up,  that gave you your freedom and privileges, which was the USA, and yet you expect that the USA should not honor similar Palestinian aspirations? What&#8217;s required to convince you, Witty, an aryan-looking Paul Neuman<br />
in the prequel to Exodus, called Nakba?</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109248</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Witty: &quot;Quite a lot of projection there citizen.&quot;

How so Witty? What exactly am I projecting? What do you think I said that is not true, but merely me echoing my own thoughts detached from history?

&quot;Caring about Israel is not the same as not caring about the US, or about humanity as a whole.&quot; No? We all have a priority list, but secular humanism posits first all humans, without exception. You posit Jews first.

&quot;I’ve stated before that I consider American patriotism to have the same relationship to good, that sometimes its a good, and sometimes its something worth considering renouncing.&quot;

Phil&#039;s blog and many regualrs commenting here keep trying to tell you that not only
is knee-jerk American patriotism misguided, but so too is Israel First  patriotism--unfortunately, for for over forty years the two have been sold as conflated.





For me, I can’t renounce my human-ness, and I can’t renounce my Jewishness. America is someplace where I live. I love it, but I’d also love Canada, or Great Britain, or Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witty: &#8220;Quite a lot of projection there citizen.&#8221;</p>
<p>How so Witty? What exactly am I projecting? What do you think I said that is not true, but merely me echoing my own thoughts detached from history?</p>
<p>&#8220;Caring about Israel is not the same as not caring about the US, or about humanity as a whole.&#8221; No? We all have a priority list, but secular humanism posits first all humans, without exception. You posit Jews first.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve stated before that I consider American patriotism to have the same relationship to good, that sometimes its a good, and sometimes its something worth considering renouncing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Phil&#8217;s blog and many regualrs commenting here keep trying to tell you that not only<br />
is knee-jerk American patriotism misguided, but so too is Israel First  patriotism&#8211;unfortunately, for for over forty years the two have been sold as conflated.</p>
<p>For me, I can’t renounce my human-ness, and I can’t renounce my Jewishness. America is someplace where I live. I love it, but I’d also love Canada, or Great Britain, or Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Moore</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109240</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, am glad Witty is here, because he illustrates how ethnocentric Jews think, their psychology. To him, America is interchangeable with any number of other places, because he has no blood and soil connection, no particular affection for American history, accomplishment, or historic Americans, no particular love for the American people…really, no particular love for gentile people. But there’s no law against that.

He does have a particular love for the Jewish people and Israel and its blood and soil struggle, because *they* are *his* people and he sees them as part of *his* struggle.

Witty’s, I’m sure, is a fairly typical Jewish Zionist psychological perspective. 

The thing is, I think Americans should know that Jewish Zionists don’t particularly like them, and in fact seem to carry around a lot of latent hostility against them. I think they should know that they favor Israel’s plight over America’s. And I think Americans should adjust their voting patterns, business practices, foreign policy, and foreign aid accordingly, and in a way that penalizes instead of rewards Jewish Zionists for their Israel-first mentality. 

I think Americans need to understand that Jewish Zionists are, as Kevin Macdonald has repeatedly indicated, a hostile elite. Thus, current disproportionate Jewish Zionist influence among the American elite, far from being a wash, is actually quite bad for America, and may in fact be a big factor behind our current malaise and decline.

“And not only do Jews see themselves as outsiders, they are outsiders with a long sense of history — an often tragic history in which people very much like the American majority participated in anti-Jewish movements. They are thus not simply indifferent to the interests of the American majority, they form a hostile elite, as they did in the Soviet Union.”--Kevin Macdonald
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Blog-WeissII.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, am glad Witty is here, because he illustrates how ethnocentric Jews think, their psychology. To him, America is interchangeable with any number of other places, because he has no blood and soil connection, no particular affection for American history, accomplishment, or historic Americans, no particular love for the American people…really, no particular love for gentile people. But there’s no law against that.</p>
<p>He does have a particular love for the Jewish people and Israel and its blood and soil struggle, because *they* are *his* people and he sees them as part of *his* struggle.</p>
<p>Witty’s, I’m sure, is a fairly typical Jewish Zionist psychological perspective. </p>
<p>The thing is, I think Americans should know that Jewish Zionists don’t particularly like them, and in fact seem to carry around a lot of latent hostility against them. I think they should know that they favor Israel’s plight over America’s. And I think Americans should adjust their voting patterns, business practices, foreign policy, and foreign aid accordingly, and in a way that penalizes instead of rewards Jewish Zionists for their Israel-first mentality. </p>
<p>I think Americans need to understand that Jewish Zionists are, as Kevin Macdonald has repeatedly indicated, a hostile elite. Thus, current disproportionate Jewish Zionist influence among the American elite, far from being a wash, is actually quite bad for America, and may in fact be a big factor behind our current malaise and decline.</p>
<p>“And not only do Jews see themselves as outsiders, they are outsiders with a long sense of history — an often tragic history in which people very much like the American majority participated in anti-Jewish movements. They are thus not simply indifferent to the interests of the American majority, they form a hostile elite, as they did in the Soviet Union.”&#8211;Kevin Macdonald<br />
<a href="http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Blog-WeissII.htm">link to kevinmacdonald.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kelly</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/09/roger-ebert-amends-his-review-of-the-toronto-protest.html/comment-page-1#comment-109237</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;he’s basically a baby when it comes to awareness of the history of
the I-P conflict and the USA’s enmeshed and one-sided foreign policy and the impact of that on the whole world. &lt;/i&gt;

I think that describes a majority of people in this country, even among the &quot;educated&quot; classes. But the veil is slowly being lifted...</description>
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the I-P conflict and the USA’s enmeshed and one-sided foreign policy and the impact of that on the whole world. </i></p>
<p>I think that describes a majority of people in this country, even among the &#8220;educated&#8221; classes. But the veil is slowly being lifted&#8230;</p>
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