Comments on: ‘Surfing on Islamophobia’ (Idrees Ahmad responds to McConnell)

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By: Idrees

Idrees — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:50:43 +0000

Name calling and lying? Are you sure you are posting in the right thread. Which is the lie and what name did I call you?

By: America First

America First — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:40:15 +0000

Name calling and lying about my posts tell me you’re getting nervous about the justifiable anti-immigrant backlash in Europe. I suggest the immigrants bear their medicine and whatever else they bear back in Pakistan.

By: Idrees

Idrees — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:09:41 +0000

So apart from being xenophobic you also don’t read too well. McConnell had put US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on par with Muslim immigration to EU, as you did. Now that you are weasling out, you are going to blame that on the ‘immigrant’ too? Americans (i.e., the natives of America, not the European invading genocidaires) might also have thought that your ancestors best stayed in Europe. But they didn’t, listen, now did they? Except, unlike them, the asian immigrants to europe come bearing medicine, not small pox blankets.

By: America First

America First — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:16:30 +0000

You’re the one who threw the wars in. I’m saying immigrants are not needed or beneficial and the popular success of BNP and similar parties on the continent suggests that lost of people agree with me. The Pakistani doctor should stay in Pakistan. I’m sure there are lots of sick people there who need his help.

By: syvanen

syvanen — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:41:30 +0000

Am1st your anti-immigration bias is well noted. But you over look a major factor in Moslem immigration into Europe after WWII. Beginning in the 1950s and accerlating in the sixties, the first arrivals were workers from Turkey who provided the industrial work force that restored Germany as the world’s largesst exporter of manufactured goods. It is one of the ironies of the Aryan superiority movement that led Germany to its crushing defeat in 1945 and the death of 5.5 million able bodied German males, that they had to rely on immigrant labor to rebuild their work force. Basically, not enough aryans to man the work force so they had to be imported. These Turkish workers should be credited with supporting Germany’s rebuilding — they were not taking jobs from anyone, Hitler had succeeded in killing off that work force. The descendents of that first wave of Moslem workers are now 3rd and 4th generation Germans. They certainly have more rights to citizenship and jobs than does the latest immigration of impoverished workers from the former Soviet ruled lands.

We should just face the fact that a major demographic change has occurred but one that Europe will survive. I believe multiculturalism in Europe will be as healthy and robust as the one that has defined America over the last 250 years.

By: DavidF

DavidF — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:44:42 +0000

This commentary is worthless; it’s little more than a disconnected mass of ad-hominem attacks. I am not even sure if it is about McConnell’s review, Caldwell’s book, or what the author doesn’t like about Europe.

Mr. Idrees seems to have completely missed McConnell’s irony in his comparison of traditional Muslim values to secular European decadence.

By: Idrees

Idrees — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:13:18 +0000

And you are suggesting the unemployment has to do with immigrants?

The US was wrong to invade Iraq and Afghanistan (at the behest of the Zionists), and European governments were and are wrong to flood their own countries with immigrants.

So, the invasion and murder of more than a million foreigners is the same as the arrival of a Pakistani doctor whose skills and taxes the British state benefits from without having invested a penny in his education and training?

By: tree

tree — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:11:03 +0000

Do we know that high unemployment in Europe is linked to excessive immigration numbers? If we don’t have any proof of direct correlation then your unemployment numbers are just an exercise in “post hoc ergo propter hoc”.