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	<title>Comments on: NPR&#8217;s &#8216;Morning Edition&#8217; Joins Vigilantes</title>
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		<title>By: &#8216;NPR&#8217; doesn&#8217;t need to quote Palestinians because their view is &#8216;predictable&#8217;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;NPR&#8217; doesn&#8217;t need to quote Palestinians because their view is &#8216;predictable&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uncritical depiction of the Israeli Jewish mobs harassing Jewish women who date Palestinian men provoked debate here, , and at NPR&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jan_gdyn</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-118542</link>
		<dc:creator>jan_gdyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just saw the interview.
At first I was willing to accept that Moyer&#039;s questions were him playing devil&#039;s advocate — getting Goldstone to refute his critics by repeating their logic. But then it became so unrelenting... out of the maybe 30 questions asked by Moyers, 27 were defenses of Israel in the form of a question. It skewed the entire discussion away from talking about the great depth and of Israeli injustices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just saw the interview.<br />
At first I was willing to accept that Moyer&#8217;s questions were him playing devil&#8217;s advocate — getting Goldstone to refute his critics by repeating their logic. But then it became so unrelenting&#8230; out of the maybe 30 questions asked by Moyers, 27 were defenses of Israel in the form of a question. It skewed the entire discussion away from talking about the great depth and of Israeli injustices.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115580</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not refering to anyone that I had relations with. Those experiences are wholesome and sacred.</description>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115401</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well look, I gotta go, but if you want me to do the research and scouting for that film about the Israeli  Chastity Patrols, I&#039;ll need about $500,000 to get started. I would fly to Israel, and then just keep on going.  Get yourself another sucker, guys, I wouldn&#039;t touch it with a ten foot Pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well look, I gotta go, but if you want me to do the research and scouting for that film about the Israeli  Chastity Patrols, I&#8217;ll need about $500,000 to get started. I would fly to Israel, and then just keep on going.  Get yourself another sucker, guys, I wouldn&#8217;t touch it with a ten foot Pole.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos4700</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115400</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaos4700</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to confess I see what you mean about the notion of centralised religious institutions. Being raised Catholic I&#039;ve seen that mentality as it applies to a religion that &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; strictly organized and hierarchical, and I&#039;ve found it a bit odd that this attitude still pervades branches of Christianity that long since splintered off from Rome (ostensibly in some cases as an open rejection of that sort of hierarchy, or perhaps the corruption for which it can serve as a breeding ground).

The Zionist (Jewish, Christian &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; secular, one is reminded) caricature of Islam goes along the same lines. It&#039;s like Americans believe subconsciously in a &quot;Muslim pope,&quot; often assigning that role to whatever the Muslim target of the day happens to be -- Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein (arguably a thoroughly secular figure), the Saudi nobility, the Ayatollah and/or the President of Iran, etc.

I suppose it plays into the Western (though perhaps, more accurately this applies universally to humanity) preconceived notion that there is that one great person behind it, good or evil -- Abraham Lincoln, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler -- etc. who is absolutely indispensable. I&#039;ve taken to calling it the &quot;Cobra Commander&quot; mentality -- the idea that there&#039;s one insane puppet master pulling the strings, and if you decapitate the proverbial hydra the whole monster falls dead.

Of course, mythology being an reliable teaching device for life&#039;s lessons, when Heracles decapitated the hydra willy-nilly, he only managed to double its strength with each blow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to confess I see what you mean about the notion of centralised religious institutions. Being raised Catholic I&#8217;ve seen that mentality as it applies to a religion that <i>is</i> strictly organized and hierarchical, and I&#8217;ve found it a bit odd that this attitude still pervades branches of Christianity that long since splintered off from Rome (ostensibly in some cases as an open rejection of that sort of hierarchy, or perhaps the corruption for which it can serve as a breeding ground).</p>
<p>The Zionist (Jewish, Christian <i>and</i> secular, one is reminded) caricature of Islam goes along the same lines. It&#8217;s like Americans believe subconsciously in a &#8220;Muslim pope,&#8221; often assigning that role to whatever the Muslim target of the day happens to be &#8212; Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein (arguably a thoroughly secular figure), the Saudi nobility, the Ayatollah and/or the President of Iran, etc.</p>
<p>I suppose it plays into the Western (though perhaps, more accurately this applies universally to humanity) preconceived notion that there is that one great person behind it, good or evil &#8212; Abraham Lincoln, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler &#8212; etc. who is absolutely indispensable. I&#8217;ve taken to calling it the &#8220;Cobra Commander&#8221; mentality &#8212; the idea that there&#8217;s one insane puppet master pulling the strings, and if you decapitate the proverbial hydra the whole monster falls dead.</p>
<p>Of course, mythology being an reliable teaching device for life&#8217;s lessons, when Heracles decapitated the hydra willy-nilly, he only managed to double its strength with each blow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115397</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually a very high compliment.</description>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s a physiological difference, between the mainstream Jew and the Zionist?
It&#039;s a congenital condition which make some Jews react differently to ziocaine.
I admit it, I tried ziocaine once.  It was no good, I had a &lt;i&gt;bum voyage&lt;/i&gt;.  Anyway, I got so screwed up I tried to take my pants off. Over my head!

Never tried it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a physiological difference, between the mainstream Jew and the Zionist?<br />
It&#8217;s a congenital condition which make some Jews react differently to ziocaine.<br />
I admit it, I tried ziocaine once.  It was no good, I had a <i>bum voyage</i>.  Anyway, I got so screwed up I tried to take my pants off. Over my head!</p>
<p>Never tried it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, Todd, you are fighting for this women&#039;s honor, which is more than she ever did!
I&#039;m not sure your comment is really in the best of taste. My Rabbi told me a Jew doesn&#039;t kiss and tell, or &lt;i&gt;schtup&lt;/i&gt; and run.   But we were Reform, so YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, Todd, you are fighting for this women&#8217;s honor, which is more than she ever did!<br />
I&#8217;m not sure your comment is really in the best of taste. My Rabbi told me a Jew doesn&#8217;t kiss and tell, or <i>schtup</i> and run.   But we were Reform, so YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, went off the rails!  Yes, there is a gulf, and it will widen into a chasm when the other  Jews are given a voice.  Could Mondoweiss be that voice?  Not without a theme-song, it won&#039;t. I&#039;ll get right on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, went off the rails!  Yes, there is a gulf, and it will widen into a chasm when the other  Jews are given a voice.  Could Mondoweiss be that voice?  Not without a theme-song, it won&#8217;t. I&#8217;ll get right on it!</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/nprs-morning-edition-joins-vigilantes.html/comment-page-1#comment-115391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;There’s a gulf between the two groups that is getting ever wider.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

There is a chasm which will open up as soon as the mainstream Jews are given a voice.  It is a tragedy, but true, that a Jew who becomes disgusted by Zionism ceases, for all practical purposes, to be a Jew.  And the perception of Jewish cohesiveness is so strong in Gentiles (as we see here all the time)  that they assume that any organisation or project which calls itself&quot; Jewish&quot; must have the consent and support of the overwhelming majority of Jews.  And, as I have pointed out, many Gentiles who are used to more centralised  religious institutions do not appreciate the religious anarchy which obtains in Judaism, and it&#039;s consequences.
Of course, I wouldn&#039;t have it any other way.  I could never join any religion which would accept me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;There’s a gulf between the two groups that is getting ever wider.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>There is a chasm which will open up as soon as the mainstream Jews are given a voice.  It is a tragedy, but true, that a Jew who becomes disgusted by Zionism ceases, for all practical purposes, to be a Jew.  And the perception of Jewish cohesiveness is so strong in Gentiles (as we see here all the time)  that they assume that any organisation or project which calls itself&#8221; Jewish&#8221; must have the consent and support of the overwhelming majority of Jews.  And, as I have pointed out, many Gentiles who are used to more centralised  religious institutions do not appreciate the religious anarchy which obtains in Judaism, and it&#8217;s consequences.<br />
Of course, I wouldn&#8217;t have it any other way.  I could never join any religion which would accept me.</p>
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