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From AnomalousNYC’s photostream of My Israel, four photos from New York. Anomalous has since left the city and reflects: "Such a great concept, unfortunately I never had a car so it was very tricky to run all over the city to collect them all."

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  1. Citizen says:

    The History Channel recently had an hour devoted to how Rome’s defeat of the
    women and kids, and the Jewish assassin cult up on Masada was actually achieved
    in 3 weeks, not 3 years; the show supported its conclusion by archeology, structural engineering, knowledge of Roman prowess in that area, and what the Romans were actually doing in Judea for that 3 year period–mopping up. I’m sure the program will repeated. It also showed how the televised burial of alleged Jewish warriors-suicide heroes back in the later 1960s involved the actual burial of dead non-Jews. What the hey,
    the Nazi program for establishing their myths via archeology was a failure also.

    • potsherd says:

      Another example of Israeli idolatry – the worship of dead terrorists.

    • Taxi says:

      Actually the myth of Masada was debunked soon as they dug up some pig bones.
      link to archaeology.org

      Here’s another fun Masada link:
      link to jaygary.com

      But really, the only interesting thing about it all is whether the feeble Israeli psyche is so entrenched in the fantastical Masada myth that they would now be willing to commit mass-suicide in real-time in order to avoid submission to a greater force – in today’s case this would be the Palestinian demographic.

      Ahhhhhhh sweet soft silk of martydom.

      • Chaos4700 says:

        Hold on a second — am I reading that first article right? The Israeli government, in its zeal to perpetuate its mythology, pushed forward an Israeli state funeral for (among others, obviously)… pig bones?

        I’m hard pressed to imagine any of us in the peanut gallery here can come up with a joke funnier than the Israelis themselves have written, huh.

      • Citizen says:

        Chaos, it’s two distinct threads, among many others researched historically and by archeology and engineering, that lead to the conclusion Masada is a myth. Why would pig bones be found at the exact site the Jewish martyrs died? And why were the human skeletal remains found along with them there not a good match for the frames of Jews in the area in those days, but a closer match to the frames of non-Jews? Those are just two of the findings, inter alia.

  2. Citizen says:

    Well, let’s see, yonira makes the point that at some time in the near or distant past all people were settlers (on land where there were some prior people living). OTH, unless nothing significant happened at the Nuremberg Trials, and we ignore the Geneva conventions etc, and the scores of years chasing down old Nazis suspects, the hasabara point Mooser knows (the whole world sucks) really doesn’t get us to an astute POV of what should happen now. It’s a real question of whether any humane progression is simply a mirage; maybe it is just as Goering said, a matter of power. The Queen is dead, long live the queen. Is it never again universally, or never again impacting the Jews?
    Isn’t this the real question? Obama is now fussing about Afghanistan, a place that is
    moved by tribal politics. The USA itself is having this tension, disguised as ID politics.
    Either the proposition that all men are created with an equal right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is a political version of the golden rule here on earth, or it is
    just a feint for the gullible; which is it? In the deed is the creed. I don’t really see the conventional antagonists on any side coming out very well. I do see a small elite around the world sucking up most of the world’s resources.

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