Comments on: Attempt to ban dissent in the Bay Area Jewish community will likely have the opposite effect http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 13:32:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jeffrey Blankfort http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125415 Jeffrey Blankfort Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:29:57 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125415 What is not commonly understood is that the first target of the Zionists' propaganda is their fellow Jews and particularly those affiliated with Jewish organizations who are more likely to read Jewish community publications than not. This is why an ad like this appears in "J" and not in the SF Chronicle and why ads for rabid racist operations like FLAME appear there as well as in publications that Jews are likely read such as The Nation, The New Republic, and Harper's. The larger, more well funded organizations such as the ADL and the American Jewish Committee are more likely to run ads in the NY Times but they, too, publish ads in the Jewish publications which one can find in every city with a substantial Jewish population. The last time I looked New York, alone, had at least three of them. Once in a while in the distant past, you might find one or two articles criticizig Israel, but no more. To find a Jewish paper that still does that you need to look at the weekly Forward, a national newspaper our of NY which I did not include among the three. It's web site is work checking out. www.forward.com The funders and signers of this ad are probably well aware of how the average Chronicle reader would react to such an ad and they have no intention of seeking the spotlight on their nafarious doings, given the overall popularity of the SF Jewish Film Festival which is unique among Jewish film festivals in being open to showing films that tell some of the ugly truths about Israel. One of its more controversial earlier guests was the brave Israeli journalist Amira Hass. What is not commonly understood is that the first target of the Zionists’ propaganda is their fellow Jews and particularly those affiliated with Jewish organizations who are more likely to read Jewish community publications than not. This is why an ad like this appears in “J” and not in the SF Chronicle and why ads for rabid racist operations like FLAME appear there as well as in publications that Jews are likely read such as The Nation, The New Republic, and Harper’s.

The larger, more well funded organizations such as the ADL and the American Jewish Committee are more likely to run ads in the NY Times but they, too, publish ads in the Jewish publications which one can find in every city with a substantial Jewish population. The last time I looked New York, alone, had at least three of them.
Once in a while in the distant past, you might find one or two articles criticizig Israel, but no more. To find a Jewish paper that still does that you need to look at the weekly Forward, a national newspaper our of NY which I did not include among the three. It’s web site is work checking out. http://www.forward.com

The funders and signers of this ad are probably well aware of how the average Chronicle reader would react to such an ad and they have no intention of seeking the spotlight on their nafarious doings, given the overall popularity of the SF Jewish Film Festival which is unique among Jewish film festivals in being open to showing films that tell some of the ugly truths about Israel. One of its more controversial earlier guests was the brave Israeli journalist Amira Hass.

]]> By: Cheryl http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125326 Cheryl Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:54:29 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125326 “It is partnering with Jewish Voice for Peace and the American Friends Service Committee, two virulently anti-Israel, anti-Semitic groups that support boycotts, divestment, and sanctions against Israel. Both are closely associated with the International Solidarity Movement and other groups that aid and abet terror against the Jewish State. These groups cross the line for inclusion in the Jewish community. ” So JVP and AFS draw the wrath because of BDS and ISM. And BDS and ISM use nonviolent means to confront the Israeli Military Complex. “It is partnering with Jewish Voice for Peace and the American Friends Service Committee, two virulently anti-Israel, anti-Semitic groups that support boycotts, divestment, and sanctions against Israel. Both are closely associated with the International Solidarity Movement and other groups that aid and abet terror against the Jewish State. These groups cross the line for inclusion in the Jewish community. ”

So JVP and AFS draw the wrath because of BDS and ISM. And BDS and ISM use nonviolent means to confront the Israeli Military Complex.

]]> By: Colin Murray http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125287 Colin Murray Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:26:28 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125287 <i>That would be, without doubt, good for the Jews.</i> Yes, but it wouldn't be good for the Zionists, and those are the only Jews these extremists give a damn about. That would be, without doubt, good for the Jews.

Yes, but it wouldn’t be good for the Zionists, and those are the only Jews these extremists give a damn about.

]]> By: Chu http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125276 Chu Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:46:54 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125276 "Institutional Jewry’s so-called leaders brazenly against the entire human rights world" -Well said. Do they care about Israel, or do they care about the tarnished image of their tribe that has been so successful in San Fransisco? They're likely fear losing power, fortune and their ability to conduct business. It's like the mafia, that pays heavy dues for media messages. Their actions shows how they will cover-up the crimes of the tribe for their own business interests. I'm not sure what's worse, Israeli settler scum or their whitewash American patrons? “Institutional Jewry’s so-called leaders brazenly against the entire human rights world”
-Well said.
Do they care about Israel, or do they care about the tarnished image of their tribe that has been so successful in San Fransisco? They’re likely fear losing power, fortune and their ability to conduct business. It’s like the mafia, that pays heavy dues for media messages. Their actions shows how they will cover-up the crimes of the tribe for their own business interests.
I’m not sure what’s worse, Israeli settler scum or their whitewash American patrons?

]]> By: Cheryl http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125268 Cheryl Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:29:11 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125268 What perplexes me is this question: What exactly does the Federation fear from Rachel Corrie? This is a lot of hoopla around a young person who no longer walks this earth. I just do not understand. What perplexes me is this question: What exactly does the Federation fear from Rachel Corrie? This is a lot of hoopla around a young person who no longer walks this earth. I just do not understand.

]]> By: Call Me Ishmael http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125237 Call Me Ishmael Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:49:05 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125237 "A full-page ad complete with billowing Israeli flag and blue skies appeared this week in the San Francisco Bay Area’s Jewish newspaper, J, urging the SF Jewish Federation to pass this resolution ...." I would assume the flag was placed in the ad to indicate which country these people give their allegiance. In case there was any doubt. “A full-page ad complete with billowing Israeli flag and blue skies appeared this week in the San Francisco Bay Area’s Jewish newspaper, J, urging the SF Jewish Federation to pass this resolution ….”

I would assume the flag was placed in the ad to indicate which country these people give their allegiance. In case there was any doubt.

]]> By: James http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125229 James Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:28 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125229 "The S.F. Jewish Federation will not support events or organizations that demonize or defame Israel. " perhaps they would like to come out with an ad to disown israels action with regard to rachel corrie then??? until those who claim to support the state of israel do, they and israel are on a dead end road, but just haven't figured it out yet... “The S.F. Jewish Federation will not support events or organizations that demonize or defame Israel. ”
perhaps they would like to come out with an ad to disown israels action with regard to rachel corrie then??? until those who claim to support the state of israel do, they and israel are on a dead end road, but just haven’t figured it out yet…

]]> By: jan_gdyn http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125227 jan_gdyn Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:51:36 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125227 <cite>"..if the Jewish Community Center or a campus Hillel invites anyone from Adrienne Rich to Joe Klein to Howard Zinn or Naomi Klein, or any number of Jewish and Palestinian Israelis to speak, they will lose Federation funding. "</cite> Has a Hillel ever invited someone like one of these people? I know of at least this <a href="http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/20026/" rel="nofollow">example</a> where Hillel seems to participate in the ban rather than feel threatened by it. “..if the Jewish Community Center or a campus Hillel invites anyone from Adrienne Rich to Joe Klein to Howard Zinn or Naomi Klein, or any number of Jewish and Palestinian Israelis to speak, they will lose Federation funding. “

Has a Hillel ever invited someone like one of these people? I know of at least this example where Hillel seems to participate in the ban rather than feel threatened by it.

]]> By: Nolan http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125223 Nolan Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:42:30 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125223 They are going on witch hunts. Similar "movements" are popping up in Israeli academia to muzzle and harass any faculty member who dares to voice criticism of Israel's policies, a la professor Neve Gordon. http://www.counterpunch.org/cook11162009.html They are going on witch hunts.

Similar “movements” are popping up in Israeli academia to muzzle and harass any faculty member who dares to voice criticism of Israel’s policies, a la professor Neve Gordon.

link to counterpunch.org

]]> By: Chaos4700 http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/attempt-to-ban-dissent-in-the-bay-area-jewish-community-will-likely-have-the-opposite-effect.html/comment-page-1#comment-125213 Chaos4700 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:46:15 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=11181#comment-125213 Here's Witty's "popular" Zionism at its best, one notes. A bunch of priveleged multi-millionaires dictating terms to the "Jewish AND democratic" community. Here’s Witty’s “popular” Zionism at its best, one notes. A bunch of priveleged multi-millionaires dictating terms to the “Jewish AND democratic” community.

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