Fox reports that Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army major/psychiatrist, who allegedly killed 12 at Fort Hood, Texas, today, made "outlandish" statements condemning U.S. foreign policy in Iraq and Afghanistan. Fox’s informant is a co-worker. NYT’s James Dao’s report on the major makes the Jerusalem connection, twice.
Nader Hasan said his cousin’s parents had both been American citizens who owned businesses, including restaurants and a store, in Roanoke, Va. He declined to confirm reports that they were Jordanian, but said the parents, who are both dead, had immigrated from a small town near Jerusalem many years ago.
CAIR (the Council on American Islamic Relations, condemned the attack and said:
“No political or religious ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted our nation’s all-volunteer army that includes thousands of Muslims in all services. We again offer our thoughts and prayers for the victims and sincere condolences for the families of those killed or injured.
“The motive of the attacker is not yet known. We urge all Americans to remain calm in reaction to this tragic event and to demonstrate once again what is best about America – our nation’s ability to remain unified even in times of crisis. We urge national political and religious leaders and media professionals to set a tone of calm and unity."
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Looks to me like Zionist chickens came home to roost. Be interesting to see if the MSM reveals anything about this guy’s demons.
Though Major Hasan was born in this country it seems that his family came from Palestine. Basically it appears that he is a member of the Palestinian diaspora. It also seems to be that he volunteered for the US army prior to the Iraq war he started having second thoughts when it became clear that the US was going to fight in Iraq on Israel’s behalf. If these suggestions are indeed true then it means that this event can only mean that this is very good news for Israel. To the average American this means that Palestinians cannot be trusted. It also means that Israel is a defense against Palestinian aggression against the US. Sounds nutty, but it is one way this story will be played. Don’t count on the US to pressure Israel in giving up on its settlements.
Any chance the “average American” is going to start wondering why American tragedies (9/11, Ft. Hood) are “good news for Israel”?
It may seem like another Sirhan Sirhan type of thing–I see syvanen’s point–but the internet could easily blow the lid off this.
Not to mention that the gunman is apparently still alive. When’s he gonna do an interview?
Somewhere out there, five Israelis are dancing again, one supposes.
Chaos,
I am sure all Muslims/Palestinians are in a state of morning also.
This post is so stupid, regardless of anything that happens in the world you nut jobs try to connect it to Israel and try to place the blame on them. I haven’t read all of the talk backs yet, but I am sure there is one that will say this is a Jewish conspiracy or a Mossad operation.
You people are absolutely F-in nuts on here.
Funny you should mention Sirhan, an Arab, but raised a Christian and a practicing Theosophist. And then there’s that bit about the confused forensic evidence in the RFK assassination. And the Viriginia Tech connection. Seems to be a training ground for mass murderers.
You people are absolutely F-in nuts on here.
Which would explain your presence.
“I am sure all Muslims/Palestinians are in a state of morning also. “
Five Israelis compared to all Muslims? Or all Palestinians? (You left that ambiguous). As if Yonira’s trolling around and trivializing the deaths of twelve American servicemen weren’t enough proof, here we see Zionist mathematics with regard to human life in action. You know, the whole line about the “other” not being worth a single Jewish fingernail?
What in the hell are you blathering about Chaos
must have got another hit of your douchocaine
Way to honor our dead servicemen and women with your presence on this thread about their murder, yonira.
But I suppose that’s small change compared to the thousands that have been sent to their deaths in Iraq thanks to fuehrer “9/11 was good for Israel!” Netanyahu dictating American foreign policy in for the fun and profit of your murderous little judenreich so that traitors like you can have a summer home built on the corpses of Palestinians (or Syrians, or Egyptians, or Lebanese…)
There will be a lot of hate exhibited by many Americans towards Arabs because of this event. I just read a comment that called for the expulsion of all Americans who are of Arabic descent at Mothers Jones Drum blog. It is disturbing. In my city, the day after 9/11 a Sikh was murdered because the perpetrator was driving around in a rage, wanting to kill a Muslim. American idolatry for the military has the potential of unleashing a racist rage not experienced since the end of Jim Crow for the killing of soldiers in uniform.
“There will be a lot of hate exhibited by many Americans towards Arabs ”
Already, tommy, already there
Oh, God, yeah. I’m perhaps being presumptuous… but olive? I apologize for any of it you and your family have suffered so far. I’ve heard stories about how anyone who looks Arab (to white people), let alone people who are Arab, have been treated. And I know a little bit about the attitude that feeds those actions, from sadly, my own family.
Thnak you for your kind words, Chaos.
However,I would like to post a quote that Ali Abunimah said regarding this situation:
“Nature of racism is that every Muslim made to feel responsible for 13 deaths at Ft.Hood while white Americans feel none for 1 mil Iraqis”
So true, so true
If it’s any consolation at all, there are at least a handful of white Americans who feel responsible for those 1 million Iraqis, and more.
He was an arab American who resented his country’s murder of arabs and demonisation of arabs; hence, as I said above, the Zionist chickens are coming home to roost–again, after 9/11: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fort-Hood-shooting-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-said-Muslims-should-rise-up.html But syvanen is right, this will be spun as another reason to arm and fund Israel, rather than just the latest warning Uncle Sam is being led to his own suicide by the Zionists among us.
this will be spun as another reason to arm and fund Israel.
Yeah, this is bad news for all. I don’t think his Palestine roots will carry as much as being a Muslim though. I wonder how the news media will explain this story?
Imagine if he were an American Jew and asked to go to help Hezbollah in the war against Israel. They military really f’d this one up. He had a military lawyer trying prevent him heading to Afganistan. Sucks…
Well, undoubtedly this will get mentioned on the evening news/analysis shows I podcast. We’ll see how Olbermann and Maddow handle it. Olbermann I actually trust more than Maddow in that regard — I love Rachel but she’s got a touch of the Islamophobe about her.
I’m preparing myself to be sorely disappointed by how either of them handles, which means at best I’ll be impressed and at worst I’ll be vindicated.
I’ve watched Olbermann and he’s covered the story, of course. As I anticipated, he gave the facts and the gist of his own commentary was about him being an American soldier and a psychiatrist, not a Muslim and certainly not as an “Islamofascist terrorist.” So as usual, he’s lived up to my expectations. He touched on the perception of terrorism, but Olbermann (and his guest) did not frame the whole discussion as such. In short, they neither demonized nor politicized him, nor did they whitewash (in either direction).
A tiny amount of my hope for this country is restored, oddly. Keith Olbermann was honest and even handed, in my opinion. Let’s see how Rachel Maddow fares.
Chaos,
Part of the boycott/divest Israel campaign is to also boycott all MSM opinion makers (drip-fed by the zios) and make your objections known to them if possible.
Rachael and Keith are a big part of the MSM and both are enablers of zionist hate propaganda against Palestinians/Arabs/Moslems.
These people have nothing of value to say regarding P/I conflict.
Eff ‘em!
Well Taxi… the problem is, though, that Keith and Rachel are good sources for domestic issues. Pretty damn reliable ones. Like I said, I watched Olbermann and I thought he handled the news in a fair fashion. Rachel, as I expected, spent time on the “lone gunman or terrorist?” canard, though I didn’t finish watching the show all the way through yet.
But like I said, Rachel is solid on anything domestic (even Muslim issues, she’s handled the whole CAIR witch hunt the way it needs to be handled) and Keith, while taciturn on Israel/Palestine, doesn’t actively support Israel by anything I’ve read into his broadcasts.
I can respect your choice to boycott them, but it’s my opinion that boycotting Keith and Rachel specifically accomplishes nothing, because I don’t believe that either of them are part of the propaganda machine, ultimately. If nothing else, out of all of the cable news shows, I expect they’re the most receptive to feedback.
Fine shooting Major.
That’s pretty sick.
mebbe,but true. Who goes onto an army base(!) and clips a dozen soldiers(!) with a couple of pistols. A daycare, sure. A high school, no problem. But a US Army base?! I call that fine marksmanship. What do you call it, lucky shots?
His victims weren’t the enemy
tell it to the Diego Garcians.
Yeah, let’s not joke about that. The United States is wrong to imprison, torture and murder Iraqis and Afghanis but that doesn’t make what this man did right, no matter what his own personal strife has been.
Who says he is right? Sort of gotta leave that right-and-wrong thing behind when you sign up for today’s volunteer Army, dontcha? The first thing you swear to do is give up your moral agency.
He really took that “Army of one” thing seriously, didn’t he.
Mooser, I respect that there are questions to be asked… but please. Not right this second, OK? And not like that.
kapok November 5, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Fine shooting Major.
You’re an agent provocateur. You’ve been on here once before already when you pretended to be a pro-propaganda Zionist (you weren’t even pro-Israel as your post contained no truth or facts). You were critical of those who criticized Israel’s policies and yet here you are trying to capitalize on a tragedy and on bigotry.
One day, when you’re the victim of hatred, you’ll understand. Until that day comes, try to find yourself something more positive in which to engage. A hobby perhaps?
Exactly. Hasbara provocateur is the word that occurred to me.
This site has enough hatred to go around……
Yup, definitely a Zionist conspiracy by kapok, you freaks don’t miss a beat on here…
I heard Israel was responsible for the death of Michael Jackson to and the creation of Barney.
Not conspiracy, yonira, just a “lone wolf.”
This is why Zionists are such a scourge. This article is a very serious article about the murder of US servicemen. People like kapok and yonira turn it into cheap political capital.
You don’ t have both oars in the water.
There are splinters in the windwheels of your mind.
The wind beneath your wings has ceased to blow.
The Man from Galilee has dropped your hand.
“victim of hatred?” Don’t be ridiculous! You can’t shoot straight when you’re all heated up with hatred. Takes “a cool hand, and a keen eye” as Prof. Hill said about billiards.
And we got trouble, right here!
This site has enough hatred to go around……
Yup, definitely a Zionist conspiracy by kapok, you freaks don’t miss a beat on here…
I heard Israel was responsible for the death of Michael Jackson to and the creation of Barney.
Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper were all over this story yesterday like flies on poop. During Israel’s attack on Gaza we heard not a peep from either one of them. It’s the same method of operation for propagandists like those two, over emphasize Arab or Muslim crimes and downplay and conceal Israeli and Zionist crimes.
A Palestinian from East Jerusalem flipping a car with a backhoe tractor gets 24/7 live coverage on CNN North America, while settlers burning Palestinian groves and shooting civilians get zero coverage.
Do you have ANY idea how racist Zionists capitalize on incidents like the one at Fort Hood?
Before the dust even settled at WTC, Netanyahu said that 9/11 was good for Israel. Why? Because then Israel can point to such actions and say “Islam is the enemy of Judaism and Christianity. We share a common goal”.
This site has enough hatred to go around……
Yup, definitely a Zionist conspiracy by kapok, you freaks don’t miss a beat on here…
I heard Israel was responsible for the death of Michael Jackson to and the creation of Barney.
Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper were all over this story yesterday like flies on poop. During Israel’s attack on Gaza we heard not a peep from either one of them. It’s the same method of operation for propagandists like those two, over emphasize Arab or Muslim crimes and downplay and conceal Israeli and Zionist crimes.
A Palestinian from East Jerusalem flipping a car with a backhoe tractor gets 24/7 live coverage on CNN North America, while settlers burning Palestinian groves and shooting civilians get zero coverage.
Do you have ANY idea how racist Zionists capitalize on incidents like the one at Fort Hood?
Before the dust even settled at WTC, Netanyahu said that 9/11 was good for Israel. Why? Because then Israel can point to such actions and say “Islam is the enemy of Judaism and Christianity. We share a common goal”.
Like I said earlier, Nolan. Five dancing Israelis.
I don’t like to indulge in conspiracy theories, but there are questions that are not being asked, and we are suffering (and some of us are dying) because of that.
Conspiracy theories? There is context for these claims.
Only a Zionist tool like yourself would cry conspiracy. Just like Alan Dershowitz when he said the US and Israel were preventing peace – which they are.
Scum like you, Zionist, are a dime a dozen. That’s why there are so many of you trolling this blog.
We’ve had PLENTY of the same losers posting all 1 through 4 Zionist debating points over and over.
Oh and the Israeli government is having people troll blogs too! It’s institutional to be a Zionist troll these days.
So no – it’s not far-fetched to think some ethnocentric Jew who worships the Holocaust and thinks he/she is ‘chosen’ will stoop so low as to impersonate an insensitive and idiotic person. They definitely live that act already.
I think this shooter, Nidal Malik Hasan, was actually a Mossad agent.
Yonira? Co f*ck yourself, you heartless, spineless bastard. American servicepeople are dead and all you come here to do is make snide comments?
Zionists really don’t care about pain and suffering of anybody but themselves, do they?
Now your the righteous one huh Chaos. You could give a shit about America, you’ve said it many times its just another colonial misadventure. You’ll denounce America @ every turn, but you’ll take all of the hand-outs, liberties, etc you can take from our government.
This post from the start was used for cheap political capital, and you freaks just lap it up. It has zero to do w/ Jerusalem, Israel, or the Jews. But you all must find some kind of correlation or someone way to demonize Israel, even though there is ZERO connection. That is the travesty my friend…..
I am mocking you people when I say it was a Jewish conspiracy, or any conspiracy for that matter. It was a guy unstable and unhappy because he actually had to go serve as a soldier instead of having a kush position at Walter Reid.
No actually, I said Israel is the colonial misadventure, you dumb shit. America at its peak was a force of democracy and human progress.
But then greedy uneducated right-wing nutjobs like you got bribed by corporate robber barons so that Republican actors — yeah, literally actors in some cases — could buy elections. Over half a dozen globe-spanning military invasions later, our economy’s a wreck, the government is hopelessly corrupt and the world regards us as a nation of fools (and rightly so, maybe) because we listened to dumb-asses like you who cried havoc and took us on wild goose chases after non-existent threats.
Oh, but you don’t care, do you? You can always take advantage of your “Right of Return” and flee off to your little judenreich with what American treasure you can carry, never mind the blood on your hands.
You’re lucky this is the internet and I can’t reach you, yonira, because if I’d ever heard you mock a US soldier or call him a coward (no matter how mentally unhinged he is) I’d knock you flat on your ass and kick you until you stopped squealing, you disgusting Zionazi parasite.
13 dead, I think, 30 wounded, and he had a gun in both hands. I’m not much of a pistol shot with my good hand.
Wouldn’t surprise me if as soon as the Major started shooting, everybody else grabbed their side-arm and took a shot at the guy who they thought was screwing their wife during their last tour. There’ll be all kinds of bullets in those poor people.
I guess the shrink finally came to his senses.
R.I.P. young people of Fort Hood.
Good riddance! The US Army is the enemy of the world’s people.
STFU kapok you effin douche-bag
Oh, now you care about soldiers, yonira, huh?
You’re the one who needs to shut up, Zionist blood-sucker.
You are right, they are already playing up the “terrorist” aspect of the shootings. They had a three person panel, as an example on Larry King (not the best and brightest, I know) with one fellow already espousing the Islamic terror line.
What a tragedy. A lone gunmans actions will most certainly affect many, many lives. There’s the human toll, loss of life, and then there will be the political fall out.
“A lone gunmans actions will most certainly affect many, many lives”
And US troops in Iraq distribute soccer balls and candy.
Title: “If It Were Up To Me” lyrics
Artist: Cheryl Wheeler
Maybe it’s the movies, maybe it’s the books
Maybe it’s the bullets, maybe it’s the real crooks
Maybe it’s the drugs, maybe it’s the parents
Maybe it’s the colors everybody’s wearin
Maybe it’s the President, maybe it’s the last one
Maybe it’s the one before that, what he done
Maybe it’s the high schools, maybe it’s the teachers
Maybe it’s the tattooed children in the bleachers
Maybe it’s the Bible, maybe it’s the lack
Maybe it’s the music, maybe it’s the crack
Maybe it’s the hairdos, maybe it’s the TV
Maybe it’s the cigarettes, maybe it’s the family
Maybe it’s the fast food, maybe it’s the news
Maybe it’s divorce, maybe it’s abuse
Maybe it’s the lawyers, maybe it’s the prisons
Maybe it’s the Senators, maybe it’s the system
Maybe it’s the fathers, maybe it’s the sons
Maybe it’s the sisters, maybe it’s the moms
Maybe it’s the radio, maybe it’s road rage
Maybe El Nino, or UV rays
Maybe it’s the army, maybe it’s the liquor
Maybe it’s the papers, maybe the militia
Maybe it’s the athletes, maybe it’s the ads
Maybe it’s the sports fans, maybe it’s a fad
Maybe it’s the magazines, maybe it’s the internet
Maybe it’s the lottery, maybe it’s the immigrants
Maybe it’s taxes, big business
Maybe it’s the KKK and the skinheads
Maybe it’s the communists, maybe it’s the Catholics
Maybe it’s the hippies, maybe it’s the addicts
Maybe it’s the art, maybe it’s the sex
Maybe it’s the homeless, maybe it’s the banks
Maybe it’s the clearcut, maybe it’s the ozone
Maybe it’s the chemicals, maybe it’s the car phones
Maybe it’s the fertilizer, maybe it’s the nose rings
Maybe it’s the end, but I know one thing.
If it were up to me, I’d take away the guns.
SOURCE – http://www.lyrics007.com/Cheryl%20Wheeler%20Lyrics/If%20It%20Were%20Up%20To%20Me%20Lyrics.html
Thank God it’s not up to Cheryl Wheeler!!
Thomas Jefferson:
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. … Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
FPM
I’m assuming there were a few people carrying guns on an army base, yet 12 people lost their lives. I’m also assuming that a US Army major didn’t have to buy his gun at K-Mart. So civilian gun laws would seem to be rather beside the point in this case.
Cheryl Wheeler might wish to read this:
http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm
I hope all you “things would be so much better if we all carried guns” guys go blind, and have children with flippers for hands. Maybe they can pull the triggers with their tongues.
When everybody has guns, the guy who doesn’t have any scruples about causing harm, and the guy who has the drop on you, has the advantage. That’s about it.
I really hate to dissapoint you, but TV and movies is not a good place to pick up pointers on gunplay. You do understand about scripts, and stuff, right? And that the bad guys aren’t really dead.
My God, if that’s what you think about guns, God help us when it comes to sex. But I’ve noticed that the two things Americans know the most about are the two things they have the least experience with.
I’ve been personally robbed in my home. Now I have a gun. I don’t think watching TV or films is relevant. That’s about it.
“FYI Jerusalem”??
I can see his fears about being Arab, harrassed by idiots for that, and the difficulty of and Arab counseling soldiers killed by Arabs, and then being sent directly into harms way to counsel soldiers while they are under some attack by Arabs, even if they are there to assist Arabs.
The Army deserves some criticism for its choices.
But, the man took out a weapon and randomly killed. I don’t know what other options he had. Maybe you can describe that as the same dilemma that Palestinians face.
But, thats it. If anything, to have mass murder as a model at all whether it is Timothy McVeigh or Al Quaida (by model, I don’t mean something that he intentionally adopted, but the presence of a mode of behavior that is a possibility because one has heard of it).
You mentioned the word “Arab” five times, Richard. And you actually intimated that the U.S. Army is in the Arab world “to assist Arabs.” Wow.
And your last sentence is missing its predicate… you had me hanging on there… “to have mass murder as a model at all…” is what? Wrong? Wrong unless you’re a state called Israel? Let us know!
Read the post. Read Phil’s post. Read the newspaper reports.
Enough with the low blows.
If you disagree with the actual idea presented, comment away.
I always read what Phil writes before commenting. Don’t you?
Pointing out that you said “Arab” five times in your first paragraph isn’t a low blow. It’s meant to illustrate that you immediately became fixated on the shooter’s ethnicity (even though Phil provided a much more specific context–his parents fleeing Jerusalem), and also that you harbor the impression that U.S. military aggression in the Middle East is “to assist Arabs.”
And you still didn’t finish your last sentence. I’m actually interested in what you were going to say about “mass murder as a model at all” — because mass murder is what I consider the IDF to have committed in Gaza, having killed over a thousand people, nearly all of them unarmed.
The crux of this post by Phil is to outline he was an Arab, but Witty is the bad guy for mentioning it?
yonira, the point was that his parents lived in Jerusalem, ergo he was a descendent of Palestinians. Not any old “Arab.” But I understand that Zionists see the entire Arab race as suspect.
The BBC says: “Maj Hasan, 39, was born and raised in Virginia. His parents moved to the US from a Palestinian town near Jerusalem, according to his cousin….
A local imam told the Washington Post that he attended daily prayers at a mosque when he worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC….
On a form for those looking for spouses through the mosque he listed his birthplace as Arlington, Virginia, but his nationality as Palestinian, Mr Khan said.”
Now we are going to hear how this was not more Islamic terrorism. The political correct crew led by the Richard Witty’s of the world will now tell us about Timothy McVeigh.
Now an attack from the right as well as the left?
Now an attack from the right as well as the left?
Oh, woe unto Richard! Attacked from all sides, and still he soldiers on! When will the persecution cease!
Please, try to spare us a peacock’s display of your martyr complex in the midst of this tragedy.
And Richard does himself no favors equating the “attack from the right” and “from the left.” I wonder if he can see the difference between my critique–that he immediately made this about “Arabs” and actually characterized U.S. wars as “there to assist Arabs”–and Julian’s, which was based on the presumption that Major Hasan was an Islamic terrorist, even though we don’t even know if he was a practicing Muslim, much less an Islamic extremist–typical Zionist Islamophobia, in other words.
But to Reductionist Richard they’re the same thing.
I assumed that you had read the press on the story, MM.
That was that he was a psychiatrist counseling individuals, some with post-traumatic stress and other behaviorial manifestations, returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. He reported that he had been harrassed for being Arab Muslim periodically, and I surmised that many of the individuals that he was counseling related to him fearfully (racist or not).
I imagined that he felt between a rock and a hard place, asked to do work that he found difficult to navigate inter-personally, and then to do so in an environment of much heightened stress. And cracked.
That part of your analysis seems sound to me, Richard. But what about the part about American occupying soldiers being “there to assist Arabs”? And this foggy notion that Arabs are ungratefully killing U.S. soldiers even though the U.S. occupation is a humanitarian affair in your eyes? That’s where I see the Zionist in you shining through, though you’re probably not even aware of it.
Here come the vultures to feed on the dead.
He yelled Allah Akbar before the slaughter, that is a phrase from Islam, and the killing was pretty extreme. I think its safe to say he was a Muslim-extremist
Where does it say his parents are from Jerusalem?
“There are reports, unconfirmed, that he was saying Allah Akbar,” says Lt. Gen. Bob Cone.
Next: unconfirmed reports that the weapon came from Iran.
Where does it say his parents are from Jerusalem?
It’s in the second paragraph of this post, but you’ll have to pull your head out of your ass to see it. Good luck, yoni.
The NY News says “Hasan was born in Virginia to Palestinian parents who emigrated from Jordan. “
MM,
It was an allusion to the surmised attitude of soldiers that he would be asked to serve, a portion of the construction of his “rock and hard place”.
I see, Richard. In that case, I am comforted that you do not view American occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan in that way, and I apologize for misunderstanding what you were saying. I agree with your assessment.
“Now an attack from the right as well as the left?”
Shocking, isn’t it when a ZIonist can’t even get complete co-operation from the right! Get a clue Richard.
Yeah, credit where it is due, as someone said elsewhere in response to a letter Richard wrote (I had mixed feelings on that).
But anyway, I think RW’s analysis of the shooter’s situation is balanced and compassionate. There’s a good chance it’s also correct, at least from the information that we know.
Witty – the US did not go into Iraq to “assist” arabs and is not there right now to “assist” anybody but the imperial policies of the US and its master, Israel. How many Americans (most notably jewish origin ones as these are the ones you know best) people have you have personally heard that voiced concern about the 100’s of thousands dead Iraqis and million more wounded? how many clamor to let the Iraqi refugees settle in the west which has caused their destruction? hopw many fund raisers have you been to that aim to support those suffering from the destruction of Iraq?
The war against Iraq was no “war”. It was an invasion of a far weaker country meant to destroy as much as possible of the Iraqi country and kill lots of Iraqi people. It was a war against the people of Iraq which is continuing now. It was a highly “successful war” because by most credible estimates near 1 M Iraqis died. Your pathetic hand wringing on this issue is duly noted. But hey you probably thought there were wmd’s there (or pretended you did) just like you pretend that hamas ia anything other than a resistance/liberation movement and you keep calling them terrorists.
And while we are at it – I kind of doubt you personally know a single jewish family with a serviceperson in Iraq or afganistan (I know 5 such families, personally; none jewish, of course.). That’s for others to do, not for the fine upstanding members of the american ruling class, now busily ordering others into the killing fields. What would you know about what it’s like to be sent into one of these hell holes?
The army major may have just woken up one day and realized – having heard all the stories of the wounded – what these so called “wars” are really all about, especially for those who had the temerity to be on the losing end. I dread to think what could happen should you wake up similarly sobered up one day (no, I’m not implying you’d go around shooting. But there are plenty of ways to snap and no two snap the same way).
Bottom line: waking up is a bitch. Please don’t try by yourself.
Cheap and innaccurate shots Dana.
You imagine a lot, but don’t honestly name it as your imagination.
Witty, my shots are never cheap! they cost a lot to generate and/or deflect. The only question is what the coin is.
As for my imagination – it’s legendarily accurate – as you well know.
But look on the bright side – at least I ‘m not making predictions this time – these which are notorious for being on the mark. Please don’t make me predict your future state of mind again….
Point goes to Danaa, methinks. Witty’s “reply” was a big bag of fail.
[Nidal Malik Hasan's complaints about racism, causes me to repeat (unchanged) what I wrote on another MondoWeiss conversation only yesterday.]
Too many forget the racial part of anti-Semitism in history. WWI era cartoons of swarthy complexioned Eastern European Jews with angry scowls, scraggly beards, and big hooked noses, regularly appear in the US media though now invariably dressed as Middle-Eastern mullahs. In spite of the fact that it may be Jews in the media who draw such cartoons or okay their publication, it is absurd to categorize these updated images as anything but anti-Semitic.
White racists cheerfully endorse the mutual extermination of Israeli Jews and Palestinians by each other. The extermination of Christian Palestinians is fine with those racists because they are not white. Is it believable that the racism they express for Israeli Jews is anti-Semitic but the racism they express for Palestinians is a different kind of racism? Though her brother-in-law is a Lebanese Catholic, is Erica Jong’s “Arabs and other animals” reference anti-Christian or is it a racist anti-Semitic one? Young drunken racist American Jews in Israel captured in Max Blumenthal’s videos are intended to remind us that too many Jews are so assured of their whiteness that they are comfortable with their racism.
The distinction between Persian and Arab is a cultural one. No such distinction is made with the images of Middle-Eastern mullahs, which are purely racial, anti-Semitic, to be specific. What happens when young defenseless children see these images in our media no matter that they are Jewish, Arab, Persian, Christian, Moslem? Should we care?
On another note, we had mixed news regarding a Muslim cleric here in NJ. Note the community support for the cleric mentioned in the article, including support from “high-ranking law enforcement officials.” There is still much goodness in this country:
“In a 12-page ruling made public this week, the Board of Immigration Appeals rejected some arguments the U.S. Department of Homeland Security made in the case against Imam Mohammad Qatanani, the 45-year-old spiritual leader of the Islamic Center of Passaic County.
However, the panel also challenged some of the reasoning that led to Judge Alberto J. Riefkohl’s ruling in September 2008 granting permanent resident status to Qatanani. A Palestinian, Qatanani lives in Paterson with his wife and three of their American-born children. Riefkohl had determined the government’s case was weak, spurring the appeal.”
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/deportation_case_of_nj_muslim.html
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