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	<title>Comments on: Let Goldstone testify in Congress before you rush to judgment</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2009/11/let-goldstone-testify-in-congress-before-you-rush-to-judgment.html/comment-page-1#comment-120970</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress will vote on H.Res. 867 TODAY, so be sure to call this morning and let your Representative know you want them to vote NO on this thing: http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=2412</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress will vote on H.Res. 867 TODAY, so be sure to call this morning and let your Representative know you want them to vote NO on this thing: <a href="http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=2412">link to endtheoccupation.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: IrishMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrishMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It comes as no surprise to me that on the day of the vote on HR.867, Israel puts out claims that Gaza rockets can reach Tel Aviv.
We also have  the IAEA making unusually threatening statements about Iran&#039;s 1200 Kg of LEU, which, under the NPT,  is entirely legitimate.
Governments aren&#039;t going to help the Palestinians create a state (one mandated by the Oslo accords, which Netanyahu despised), so it will be up to the ordinary people  to take part in the BDS movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It comes as no surprise to me that on the day of the vote on HR.867, Israel puts out claims that Gaza rockets can reach Tel Aviv.<br />
We also have  the IAEA making unusually threatening statements about Iran&#8217;s 1200 Kg of LEU, which, under the NPT,  is entirely legitimate.<br />
Governments aren&#8217;t going to help the Palestinians create a state (one mandated by the Oslo accords, which Netanyahu despised), so it will be up to the ordinary people  to take part in the BDS movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one committee in Congress (the House) that needs to be cleaned out it is this committee.  It is an anti-Castro and promilitaristic Israel coalition that leads it.  In the House the chair of the committees along with ranking members have the power to decide what legislation passes to the full House.  It used to be called the House International Relations Committee but their intent is hardly building international relationships or good foreign relationships.  One of their main goals is to delegitamize anything Palestinian and feed the neocon line regarding Israel....then the House follows suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one committee in Congress (the House) that needs to be cleaned out it is this committee.  It is an anti-Castro and promilitaristic Israel coalition that leads it.  In the House the chair of the committees along with ranking members have the power to decide what legislation passes to the full House.  It used to be called the House International Relations Committee but their intent is hardly building international relationships or good foreign relationships.  One of their main goals is to delegitamize anything Palestinian and feed the neocon line regarding Israel&#8230;.then the House follows suit.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldstone needs to report on the US role in the slaughter of Gaza and press for indicting members of Congress for war crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldstone needs to report on the US role in the slaughter of Gaza and press for indicting members of Congress for war crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: potsherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>potsherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These resolutions are almost always passed with a voice vote, but I believe they can&#039;t do it if one member stands up to object and ask for debate.   Or at least they have to vote this down, first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These resolutions are almost always passed with a voice vote, but I believe they can&#8217;t do it if one member stands up to object and ask for debate.   Or at least they have to vote this down, first.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Witty already &quot;knew&quot; that everyone said the majority of the Gaza War casualties were  not civilians--this was false, but Witty&#039;s wide reading had led him to believe it was true.  (Note I&#039;m not even talking about the actual fraction of the deaths that were civilian--merely Witty&#039;s claim that &quot;everyone&quot; agreed that they were a minority, which isn&#039;t even remotely true.)   

The fact that he is so strongly pushing the Sachar book while denigrating other authors (like Segev) is a strike against Sachar.   I looked at Amazon and on the back it is praised by the usual suspects, including COMMENTARY magazine--can anyone imagine COMMENTARY praising a book which treated Israeli crimes with the harshness they deserved?   I used the search inside feature and read the portion about Sharon&#039;s massacre at Kibya (or Qibya)--Sachar takes for granted that the Israelis didn&#039;t know there were women and children hiding inside the houses that were blown up.   I don&#039;t know what they knew, but a little skepticism seems in order.  Wouldn&#039;t people concerned about killing civilians check the houses first?   

We&#039;ve all seen how Witty reacts towards reports and writers who make him feel uncomfortable--it is not to Sachar&#039;s credit that Witty is so enthusiastic about him.  The book is probably worth reading--I don&#039;t deny that--but it obviously doesn&#039;t challenge Witty&#039;s ideas to any great extent or he wouldn&#039;t be praising it so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witty already &#8220;knew&#8221; that everyone said the majority of the Gaza War casualties were  not civilians&#8211;this was false, but Witty&#8217;s wide reading had led him to believe it was true.  (Note I&#8217;m not even talking about the actual fraction of the deaths that were civilian&#8211;merely Witty&#8217;s claim that &#8220;everyone&#8221; agreed that they were a minority, which isn&#8217;t even remotely true.)   </p>
<p>The fact that he is so strongly pushing the Sachar book while denigrating other authors (like Segev) is a strike against Sachar.   I looked at Amazon and on the back it is praised by the usual suspects, including COMMENTARY magazine&#8211;can anyone imagine COMMENTARY praising a book which treated Israeli crimes with the harshness they deserved?   I used the search inside feature and read the portion about Sharon&#8217;s massacre at Kibya (or Qibya)&#8211;Sachar takes for granted that the Israelis didn&#8217;t know there were women and children hiding inside the houses that were blown up.   I don&#8217;t know what they knew, but a little skepticism seems in order.  Wouldn&#8217;t people concerned about killing civilians check the houses first?   </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all seen how Witty reacts towards reports and writers who make him feel uncomfortable&#8211;it is not to Sachar&#8217;s credit that Witty is so enthusiastic about him.  The book is probably worth reading&#8211;I don&#8217;t deny that&#8211;but it obviously doesn&#8217;t challenge Witty&#8217;s ideas to any great extent or he wouldn&#8217;t be praising it so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only what was posted here.

I&#039;m reading a longer and more relevant text &quot;A History of Israel&quot; by Sacher (second time), which I&#039;ve recommended to Phil and to others here.

Dan Fleshler recommended it to me. (I had read it already.)

On Goldstone, I stated that his work was not authoritative but informative.

The Congressional statement implies that it is neither. Israel should conduct an investigation, but it should not be the basis of referral to any binding international court, by Goldstone&#039;s own inference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only what was posted here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading a longer and more relevant text &#8220;A History of Israel&#8221; by Sacher (second time), which I&#8217;ve recommended to Phil and to others here.</p>
<p>Dan Fleshler recommended it to me. (I had read it already.)</p>
<p>On Goldstone, I stated that his work was not authoritative but informative.</p>
<p>The Congressional statement implies that it is neither. Israel should conduct an investigation, but it should not be the basis of referral to any binding international court, by Goldstone&#8217;s own inference.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked on Thomas and HRes867 is still in the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House.  As I have pointed out several times, this committee and Ros Lehtinen (Republican, Florida) especially is the prime originator of all antiIraq, Iran, Syria, Palestine etc. legislation.  Berman and Ackerman are listed on the bill with her as is conservative Dan Burton (Rep. Illinois).  One interesting note is that I do not see any members of the Black Caucus on the cosponsor list even though several members sit on this foreign affairs committee.  I am wondering if this bill if it is moved to the floor will be a voice vote?  Does anyone have more current info as to how it is being handled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked on Thomas and HRes867 is still in the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House.  As I have pointed out several times, this committee and Ros Lehtinen (Republican, Florida) especially is the prime originator of all antiIraq, Iran, Syria, Palestine etc. legislation.  Berman and Ackerman are listed on the bill with her as is conservative Dan Burton (Rep. Illinois).  One interesting note is that I do not see any members of the Black Caucus on the cosponsor list even though several members sit on this foreign affairs committee.  I am wondering if this bill if it is moved to the floor will be a voice vote?  Does anyone have more current info as to how it is being handled?</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos4700</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaos4700</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so long as the testimony and evidence aren&#039;t &lt;i&gt;believed&lt;/i&gt;, huh Witty? Have you actually bothered to read the report yet, incidentally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so long as the testimony and evidence aren&#8217;t <i>believed</i>, huh Witty? Have you actually bothered to read the report yet, incidentally?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with you on the bully part - 80% bluff is probably how i see it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with you on the bully part &#8211; 80% bluff is probably how i see it&#8230;</p>
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