Comments on: Palin to Jews: Pack yer bags, you’re moving to Israel

By: Citizen

Citizen — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:48:10 +0000

OK, Chaos, I can live with that. Most average Americans would not know an Ashkenazi
from a Jewish family who had lived in the Mandate land for eons. All that the average American “knows” is that Hitler gassed the Jews, and now Jews have their own country. They also tend to buy into the concept of Israel is our Pal with the same interest, that interest being Arabs are terrorists and we are (absurdly) engaged
in a War with Islamic terrorists–they never think, isn’t terrorism a tactic? They have no clue such a paradigm sets up an endlessly lucrative endless war. And they have no clue that the outside world might not think those that hate the USA do so out of American foreign policy; rather it’s because “they are jealous.” Even those
Americans who live in the street, and ever-increasing proportion.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:38:53 +0000

And BTW, I would never vote for Palin either. Just as I would never vote for Lieberman.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:37:29 +0000

RE: “I would imagine, Mooser, that I have had much more experience in my life with people of Sarah Palin’s ilk than have you.”

You dare to question Mooser’s crystal ball? How dare you? His comments constantly indicate he knows everybody and everything inside and out–even if he never met you or read a book , or even googled on the subject at issue before he posts his comments.
He even thinks he’s funny!

By: Chaos4700

Chaos4700 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:38:38 +0000

I have to side with Todd. When I was a kid, I actually wondered where Israel came from. Really wasn’t until I started college that I learned what Israel was and why so many people with German, Polish and Russian names were living in the Middle East and who it was they displaced to make room for themselves.

I went to Catholic school, and they taught us fairly reliable history (let me put it this way, they didn’t whitewash the Crusades, or what was done to Galileo by the Church of that day) and even then, with the exception of one clever nun who had some oblique commentary that I haven’t recognized until long after in retrospect, there wasn’t even any talk at all about what Israel was. Everything I learned I had to learn on my own initiative.

I will agree with you, Citizen, insofar as there are very few informed people who don’t understand how Israel was formed. The crux of the problem, is that there are very few informed people.

By: Todd

Todd — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:07:17 +0000

Few people don’t understand that European Jews took Palestine from the Palestinians after WWII. I would guess that most people have little knowledge of the politics of zionism, and scant knowledge of what happened on the ground in Palestine. I don’t argue otherwise. However, most people have heard the official story of Jews returning to retake their homeland, and understand what happens when one group displaces another.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:00:05 +0000

Better yet the Christians could celebrate Xmas for 9 straight months every year! Think of the booming business!

Personally, I think the imported pagan German tradition of the Xmas tree and its song is the wonderful aspect–it sure was for me as a kid; even now in my dotage
and agnostic self, it’s the Xmas tree that moves me a tad when visiting friends, relatives, neighbors over the holidays. Dickerson’s delight expressed above
is very touching to me.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:40:45 +0000

Mooser, 8 days instead of 1, yes, think of what an extended light show that could be! Like a concert lasting over a week! Too bad for the Christians they are limited by the fact it doesn’t take that long to birth a baby. Still, they could argue among themselves
about whether or not to segment sequential minutes and celebrate that way on the birth day rather than just show a creche with the baby Jesus already born, surrounded by his attendants. A tremendous opportunity lost for more niche
products/props to tell the tale! Still, something about the one precious moment/day
to make it all worth being thrown to the lions!

By: Citizen

Citizen — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:30:59 +0000

So, Mooser, you are (mock?) whining because the black Americans’ gospel tradition enhanced all the more the religious experience of Christmas? You appreciate their contribution
so much you wish the Jewish people had not kept so much their Hanukkah celebration to themselves? Which is it? Or do you simply have mixed feelings in the matter? That’s OK too.

Given that all spiritual groups appreciate the enhancement of music and song, which holiday has the wider universal appeal?

By: Chaos4700

Chaos4700 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:55:45 +0000

Perhaps. But I think the more damaging thing, than to resort to vulgarity, would be to treat Witty’s hypocrisy as credible. The bald fact is, Witty, on a fundamental level, supports what Israel is doing and that therefore makes him culpable on a rhetorical level for those atrocities.

By: Don

Don — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:54:48 +0000

She was not born into Protestant Fundamentalism. She was born into a Catholic family, and baptized Catholic. Not that I am bragging. As a Catholic myself, my response to this is very Henny Youngman, “take Sarah Palin…please!”.

And fortunately (for us Catholics…we have enough problems), they did.