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		<title>By: America First</title>
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		<dc:creator>America First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cart before horse.  Start buying TV networks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cart before horse.  Start buying TV networks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unable to get into another thread</description>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct, Shmuel. The answer is publically funded election campaigns and some devoted public tv channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct, Shmuel. The answer is publically funded election campaigns and some devoted public tv channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume your remark was at least somewhat tongue in cheek, Saleema, but I&#039;ll treat it seriously anyway.  Trying to buy more votes doesn&#039;t seem to be the answer.  I know it&#039;s important sometimes to try to work within the system, but this particular system is detsroying your country and taking the rest of the world with it.  And it&#039;s not just Israel.  It&#039;s energy and banks and insurance and pharma and God knows what else (oh and the God Squad too).  Any ideas on how to make government actually work for the people?  I&#039;m not denying the fact that &quot;the people&quot; is made up of lots of different groups with lots of legitimate and illegitimate special interests, and government has to represent them all and navigate between different and even conflicting interests, but there has got to be a better way than the current method of selling to the highest bidder (simplified for rhetorical effect).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume your remark was at least somewhat tongue in cheek, Saleema, but I&#8217;ll treat it seriously anyway.  Trying to buy more votes doesn&#8217;t seem to be the answer.  I know it&#8217;s important sometimes to try to work within the system, but this particular system is detsroying your country and taking the rest of the world with it.  And it&#8217;s not just Israel.  It&#8217;s energy and banks and insurance and pharma and God knows what else (oh and the God Squad too).  Any ideas on how to make government actually work for the people?  I&#8217;m not denying the fact that &#8220;the people&#8221; is made up of lots of different groups with lots of legitimate and illegitimate special interests, and government has to represent them all and navigate between different and even conflicting interests, but there has got to be a better way than the current method of selling to the highest bidder (simplified for rhetorical effect).</p>
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		<title>By: cogit8</title>
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		<dc:creator>cogit8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and this is a good&#039;n too:

It’s sad that in America politicians have to be near death to speak truth to the Zionist power structure…  George McGovern and Jimmy Carter are 2 perfect examples… Their political careers are over and they are close to meeting Jesus so there is very little the Zionists can do to intiminate them…  Jimmy Carter can’t get a cab anymore in D.C. because he had the courage to speak objectively about the mid east and Israel…  He is now openly called an anti-semite….  So all this talk and writing about Afghanistan and Iraq is a huge waste of time… It matters not if 99 percent of Americans want out of Afghanistan and Iraq… What matters is what Israel wants…  We ain’t EVER getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq because that isn’t part of the plan boys and girls…  Greater Israel is the plan!! And the Goyem better get used to blood and death and waste Forever!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and this is a good&#8217;n too:</p>
<p>It’s sad that in America politicians have to be near death to speak truth to the Zionist power structure…  George McGovern and Jimmy Carter are 2 perfect examples… Their political careers are over and they are close to meeting Jesus so there is very little the Zionists can do to intiminate them…  Jimmy Carter can’t get a cab anymore in D.C. because he had the courage to speak objectively about the mid east and Israel…  He is now openly called an anti-semite….  So all this talk and writing about Afghanistan and Iraq is a huge waste of time… It matters not if 99 percent of Americans want out of Afghanistan and Iraq… What matters is what Israel wants…  We ain’t EVER getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq because that isn’t part of the plan boys and girls…  Greater Israel is the plan!! And the Goyem better get used to blood and death and waste Forever!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cogit8</title>
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		<dc:creator>cogit8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m putting the following interesting post up from the truthdig site:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20091103_mcgovern_get_out_of_afghanistan/

By DieDaily, November 5 at 6:31 am # 

JDmydticDJ, the source you seek was probably Vanity 
Fair. It is referred to in many other articles 
(hundreds) like this one in the Jerusalem Post 

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?
cid=1191257286817&amp;pagename=JPArticle/ShowFull

The media, on the other hand, is more like 95% 
controlled by “Jews”.

But lets be extremely clear about this. Anyone who 
thinks this reflects upon the ordinary working person 
who is Jewish, or virtually any Sephardic or 
practicing Jew, is crazy or ignorant. This is the 
great danger facing Jews right now. A very few atheist/occultist Zionists masquerading as the voice 
of Jews is at work here. Jews in general are the 
victims of, and not the perpetrators, of these 
crimes. These people are the prime racists of the 
planet. To assume that Jews in general are evil would 
be to fall for one of their oldest tricks. 

It’s an incredibly complex and disturbing topic, but 
one we all need to talk about now. I am deeply 
gratified by the increasing number of Jews who are 
spearheading the effort to expose this tiny but 
extraordinarily powerful subset of their “race”, such 
as it is. In their shoes I too would be terrified of 
guilt by association with these monsters, and of the 
coming pogrom against “their own” that seems to be in 
their agenda. I beg that everyone interested in this 
topic exercise great care in their studies. It is 
simply not true that a single race or culture of Jews 
exists, and even if one did, it would still be the 
case that racism is simply evil and unscientific.

It’s time that there were no more taboo subjects. I 
was raised as a liberal humanist and I still am one. 
But I’ve expanded my world view steadily and 
carefully over the decades. It’s time we admit to 
some basic facts: AIPAC runs the U.S. and Jews run 
the media, Israel is a racist state that kills and 
subverts virtually indiscriminately and hordes 
nuclear weapons with impunity. They have attacked the 
U.S. on two occasions now also with impunity.

What does this say about “the average Jew on the 
street”? Practically nothing. Except that they have 
been fooled as much as we have, and are beginning to 
wake up just as we are. Let’s put it into a crystal 
clear perspective with this analogy:

You and your spouse are overseas. Suddenly you are 
surrounded and nooses are placed around your necks. 
“Why are you doing this?” you plead. “Because you are 
Americans”, they answer, “and Americans have killed 
more than a million of our civilian population”. “But 
we had nothing to do with that! We were against the 
war! We HATE Bush and Cheney, we are liberals, we 
were fooled about 9-11 and lied to about WMD’s!” you 
persist. But you are hanged dead anyway. Because you 
were American. “All Americans are the same. They are 
of Satan.”, is the last thing you hear, “but at least 
we are avenged.”

That’s racism. That’s primitive. That’s EASY to 
believe when you are angry and seek revenge. So let’s 
go after these Jews that are controlling us. But 
let’s make VERY sure that NOT ONE innocent person 
(that is to say 99% of Jews) is caught up in this 
hunt for the criminals. And lets be clear about 
something else too: just as most Jews are not 
directly involved in this, likewise a large fraction 
of the people who are involved in it are not Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m putting the following interesting post up from the truthdig site:<br />
<a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20091103_mcgovern_get_out_of_afghanistan/">link to truthdig.com</a></p>
<p>By DieDaily, November 5 at 6:31 am # </p>
<p>JDmydticDJ, the source you seek was probably Vanity<br />
Fair. It is referred to in many other articles<br />
(hundreds) like this one in the Jerusalem Post </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?">link to jpost.com</a><br />
cid=1191257286817&amp;pagename=JPArticle/ShowFull</p>
<p>The media, on the other hand, is more like 95%<br />
controlled by “Jews”.</p>
<p>But lets be extremely clear about this. Anyone who<br />
thinks this reflects upon the ordinary working person<br />
who is Jewish, or virtually any Sephardic or<br />
practicing Jew, is crazy or ignorant. This is the<br />
great danger facing Jews right now. A very few atheist/occultist Zionists masquerading as the voice<br />
of Jews is at work here. Jews in general are the<br />
victims of, and not the perpetrators, of these<br />
crimes. These people are the prime racists of the<br />
planet. To assume that Jews in general are evil would<br />
be to fall for one of their oldest tricks. </p>
<p>It’s an incredibly complex and disturbing topic, but<br />
one we all need to talk about now. I am deeply<br />
gratified by the increasing number of Jews who are<br />
spearheading the effort to expose this tiny but<br />
extraordinarily powerful subset of their “race”, such<br />
as it is. In their shoes I too would be terrified of<br />
guilt by association with these monsters, and of the<br />
coming pogrom against “their own” that seems to be in<br />
their agenda. I beg that everyone interested in this<br />
topic exercise great care in their studies. It is<br />
simply not true that a single race or culture of Jews<br />
exists, and even if one did, it would still be the<br />
case that racism is simply evil and unscientific.</p>
<p>It’s time that there were no more taboo subjects. I<br />
was raised as a liberal humanist and I still am one.<br />
But I’ve expanded my world view steadily and<br />
carefully over the decades. It’s time we admit to<br />
some basic facts: AIPAC runs the U.S. and Jews run<br />
the media, Israel is a racist state that kills and<br />
subverts virtually indiscriminately and hordes<br />
nuclear weapons with impunity. They have attacked the<br />
U.S. on two occasions now also with impunity.</p>
<p>What does this say about “the average Jew on the<br />
street”? Practically nothing. Except that they have<br />
been fooled as much as we have, and are beginning to<br />
wake up just as we are. Let’s put it into a crystal<br />
clear perspective with this analogy:</p>
<p>You and your spouse are overseas. Suddenly you are<br />
surrounded and nooses are placed around your necks.<br />
“Why are you doing this?” you plead. “Because you are<br />
Americans”, they answer, “and Americans have killed<br />
more than a million of our civilian population”. “But<br />
we had nothing to do with that! We were against the<br />
war! We HATE Bush and Cheney, we are liberals, we<br />
were fooled about 9-11 and lied to about WMD’s!” you<br />
persist. But you are hanged dead anyway. Because you<br />
were American. “All Americans are the same. They are<br />
of Satan.”, is the last thing you hear, “but at least<br />
we are avenged.”</p>
<p>That’s racism. That’s primitive. That’s EASY to<br />
believe when you are angry and seek revenge. So let’s<br />
go after these Jews that are controlling us. But<br />
let’s make VERY sure that NOT ONE innocent person<br />
(that is to say 99% of Jews) is caught up in this<br />
hunt for the criminals. And lets be clear about<br />
something else too: just as most Jews are not<br />
directly involved in this, likewise a large fraction<br />
of the people who are involved in it are not Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos4700</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaos4700</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you need to look at why they aren&#039;t organized. And it&#039;s because white society is afraid of that happening. Believe me... as a (decidedly defiant) participant of white society, I&#039;ve seen it. The same thing has been done to the Arab peoples as a consequence of post-colonialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you need to look at why they aren&#8217;t organized. And it&#8217;s because white society is afraid of that happening. Believe me&#8230; as a (decidedly defiant) participant of white society, I&#8217;ve seen it. The same thing has been done to the Arab peoples as a consequence of post-colonialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saleema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.

But, money still talks. And while what you say makes sense, at the same time, black aren&#039;t really organized either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.</p>
<p>But, money still talks. And while what you say makes sense, at the same time, black aren&#8217;t really organized either.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaos4700</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaos4700</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not the answer, Saleema. If all it took was cash, then African Americans, who in spite of the societal barriers have accumulated wealth and broken all many of class barriers in the US to some extent, would have been able to buy their way to full equality.

They haven&#039;t. It works for Jews because -- and I&#039;m sorry to be blunt -- because a lot of them are &lt;i&gt;white&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not the answer, Saleema. If all it took was cash, then African Americans, who in spite of the societal barriers have accumulated wealth and broken all many of class barriers in the US to some extent, would have been able to buy their way to full equality.</p>
<p>They haven&#8217;t. It works for Jews because &#8212; and I&#8217;m sorry to be blunt &#8212; because a lot of them are <i>white</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saleema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the Arabs should take a clue from their Jewish brthren and start buying the US Congress with more money. I *know* lots of &#039;em got money.

That&#039;s pathetic. I am very embarassed--only $70K?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the Arabs should take a clue from their Jewish brthren and start buying the US Congress with more money. I *know* lots of &#8216;em got money.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pathetic. I am very embarassed&#8211;only $70K?</p>
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