Comments on: The Nation: ‘for all practical purposes, one nation between river and sea…’

By: Taxi

Taxi — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:00:45 +0000

Potsherd,

Syria has been quiet for years despite being attacked by Israel on several occasions – for tactical reasons.

Make of it what you will, Potsherd, but everyone around Israel is just arming up some more and waiting for the right ‘environment’.

By: slowereastside

slowereastside — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:47:07 +0000

“The current Israeli Jews have never been a nation – and never will be in the future – as like Indian Hindus – their unity is based on their common hatred toward Arabs, Muslims and greed”

That’s ugly stuff and painfully true. And as the Israelis continue to insinuate themselves into Indian/Pakistani affairs, that Israeli/Hindu comparison will become painfully obvious too.

By: potsherd

potsherd — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:05:31 +0000

You know, Rehmat, there are still Samaritans living in Canaan. Maybe they need a national homeland, too.

By: Rehmat

Rehmat — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:57:52 +0000

The current Israeli Jews have never been a nation – and never will be in the future – as like Indian Hindus – their unity is based on their common hatred toward Arabs, Muslims and greed. Otherwise, within Israel – there are three classes of Jewish citizens – (1) European Jews, (2) Arab and Asian Jews, and (3) Black Jews.

Israelite state of Judea and Samara only existed until the death of King Solomon. The great majority of present-day Jews are not even Israelites (children of the 12 Tribes of Israel).

Who were the “people of the book”?
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/who-were-the-people-of-the-book/

By: syvanen

syvanen — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:52:46 +0000

Yonira you keep arguing against the one-state solution as if that were a decision that is up to us. It most certainly is not (assuming of course that you are an American). The decision is being made, if not already settled, by the Israelis themselves. Surely, you are not proposing to defy the will of Israel as if you have a better understanding of their desires.

Quite frankly I can’t see how the one state solution will play out, but I think it is important for the Palestinians to get on the same page with the Israelis on this decision. That means they will have to change their political approach from being a national liberation struggle, to one for equality. Once they demand with a united voice their equal place in Israeli society then I believe freedom loving people everywhere will have no choice but to support their demands. Again, this decision to not really ours to make unless you are willing to be an advocate for inequality.

By: FuzzyDetective

FuzzyDetective — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:44:41 +0000

Ya know, I am for *full rights* for all citizens in historic Palestine (as in everywhere else on the planet); this means not a transfer of either population.

By: potsherd

potsherd — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:25:01 +0000

Donald – it is not clear whom you are replying to

By: MRW

MRW — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:21:43 +0000

Witty, since I was so brutal with you elsewhere, I want to point out that this is a good insight: The analyses are accurate that Netanyahu is driving Israel into a wall (he seems to be thinking that 1. he can crash through the wall at all, 2. without anyone hearing the accident, then 3. land in Eden: three fantasies in one). Although I wouldn’t have made the best part parenthetical, just a sentence on its own.

As for this But, if from that statement, you would conclude that I advocate for “sanctions”, you would be engaged in 9th grade rhetoric, rather than a product of 33 years of journalism. What makes you think you were part of the discussion? Or was that part of a private email dialogue?

{I can feel Shmuel rapping my knuckles from Italy.]

By: Mooser

Mooser — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:08:08 +0000

It will take incredible acts of forebearance on the part of Palestinians to enable them to live with Israelis.

Is what I meant to write. At any rate, it will take much more forebearance than the ZIonists ever showed them.

By: MRW

MRW — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:05:37 +0000

The difference, Witty, is that Phil is a trained journalist and writer who knows his craft…cold. Craft. Writing is a craft. Decades of experience doing it, honed in the fire of a newsroom, subject to standards you know nothing about. You wrote the other day that you consider yourself a good writer. I hate to disabuse you of the notion. You wouldn’t pass Reporting 101 at J School if your life depended on it. And you have zero understanding of the use of a headline, or how they should be constructed. Neither do you understand direct or indirect ledes, or how a story should be constructed, or argued.

I’m sorry to be this tough, but if you’re going to hold yourself out as an example of writing craft, you need to be able to take the knocks as well as the kudos.

When you object to Phil’s writing, you are declaring what you dont like about it. Fair enough. But do not confuse that with Phil’s craft, or Adam’s craft, both of which are superior, and with whom you are not in the same league.