Comments on: Columbia Sportswear agrees to ‘immediately and permanently discontinue’ ad campaign marketing to settlers

By: John Smithson

John Smithson — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:05:33 +0000

Are you kidding me?: “This is the exact attitude which has fucked the Palestinians for the last 60 years. Its people representing them or their struggle that always wants more.”

67 borders, international jerusalem/holy sites, compensation for takings in ’48 or right of return. Is that how you define ‘wanting more’?

While every darn day we see families evicted in east Jerusalem by Israel?

Repent, repent – the day of reckoning is coming!!! I can only fit ~4-5 of you in my basement

By: Colin Murray

Colin Murray — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:18:37 +0000

The preceding post was meant to be a reply to yonira December 4, 2009 at 10:53 am.

By: Colin Murray

Colin Murray — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:16:27 +0000

I’m glad you agree that the Nakba happened. It’s a huge piece of common ground. However, the damage is still being done. If it were stopped, a lot more people would be willing to ‘get over it’ and accept the reality. I think many Palestinians would too, as long as their new reality included a viable state.

Of course there will be some who won’t get over it, but if just governance is established, i.e, not a corrupt quisling entity like the PA bought and paid for with American Zionist-arranged funding contingent on ‘good behavior’, then more people would come around at least to acquiescence, and social and political isolation of bitter-enders, a prerequisite to continuity of a cessation of violence, could begin. This may take a very long time, but the longer the occupation in all its manifestations continues, the longer it will take.

I’ll make a wild guess that the time scale for a potential normalization period is already around three generations. Do most Israelis want an Israeli people widely accepted as associated with a particular piece of land to be around for hundreds of years, in the sense that French are accepted as having a right to live in what we now call France, Spaniards in Spain, etc? Governments come and go, but peoples attached to a specific land area persist when their neighbors recognize their right to inhabit it. American largesse is not going to be around for hundreds of years.

There is now an Israeli people who live on a specific patch of land which almost the entire world, including most of the Arab world, is willing to recognize within the 1967 borders. There is some tipping point where Israelis should cease to expand and starting trying to come to a genuine accommodation with its neighbors.

The majority of Palestinians have been squeezed out from within the 1967 borders and West Bank residents are living what is essentially an archipelago of open air prisons connected by transit corridors controlled by the IDF. They have no other place to go, excepting another Nakba far larger than the first, and people in the rest of the world including the United States are increasingly taking note of what is really going on. There is a growing threat to perceptions of legitimacy of the Israeli government and the wisdom of supporting its establishment and existence. It would be tragic if Zionists let their colonial extremists go one hilltop too far.

By: Chaos4700

Chaos4700 — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:50:43 +0000

Yonira? Get over the Holocaust. The damage was done, accept reality.

How did that feel, hmm?

By: potsherd

potsherd — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:20:07 +0000

When people say Jews should “get over” the Holocaust, they tend to take offense.

By: aparisian

aparisian — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:14:21 +0000

when did it stop? unfortunately only war can stop the pogroms, those cowards. The Zionists made so many wars and sufferance!!!!!!!

By: Mooser

Mooser — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:15:02 +0000

This news about Columbia sportswear is almost too good to be true. They responded, undestood the situation, and did something about it? Most of all, I can’t believe they understood what it was about.
Good for the Northvest, too.

By: yonira

yonira — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:53:44 +0000

I don’t dispute that, but the damage is done. Get over it, accept the reality.

By: America First

America First — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:37:29 +0000

For that tiny concession, good for Columbia. Interesting tale of two companies. Here Goldman Sachs arms itself against restless goyim:

Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public: Alice Schroeder

link to bloomberg.com

By: Chaos4700

Chaos4700 — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:27:25 +0000

No I’m pretty sure what fucked the Palestinians over for sixty years were Eurocentric Zionists running them off their land with guns and bombs and pogroms and the like. You know — the Nakba, the apartheid, the imprisonments and tortures… all that stuff you deny and apologize for.