Memo to Obama. Dec. 3, 2009. "Prime Minister Netanyahu Meets with Leaders of Judea and Samaria Jewish Communities" (Communicated by the Prime Minister’s Media Adviser):
"This order is one-time only and it limits the duration of the suspension. There are nine months and three weeks left. Once the suspension has expired, we will continue to build."
The Israeli government really has mastered two very effective strategies for furthering their agenda; the utter hypocrisy of making a promise, then breaking it, then saying they kept the promise even after they break it; and making American Presidents look like complete idiots.
No, they haven’t mastered anything. We fail to realize — or accept, because we let the anti-semitism label stick like fly-paper to everything except light bulbs — that they’re bottom-feeders, from our cultural point-of-view. It is our fault, not theirs. The Sufis have an expression: “What others want to do for you, let them do it. What you must do for yourself, make sure you do it.”
We assume they operate in good faith. They dont. We think their word is good. It isn’t. Not for 61 years. We believe the BS about them being our friends. They dont even like gentiles and see no reason to fawn unless they they need our money (reason to massacre Palestinians, none there). Our CIA motto? “And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.” Their motto? “By Way of Deception, thou shalt do War.” Athens vs Sparta.
You honestly think there would be a Lobby in this country, working over our treasury and foreign policy, if the USA couldn’t thwart Israel’s efforts? The Lobby doesn’t care about Americans, or American Jews. They’ll toss American Jews that dont get with their racist program as fast as Jared Kushner did it to Phil.
And making so many exceptions their promise is worthless, at the same time declaring how great a concession they have made and they have no partner and the Arabs don’t want peace.
What does the freeze actually entail? Does anyone have the actual text to the orders? Seems just about impossible to enforce especially when people are determined to build.
Especially when the state refuses to arrest and detain people who defy the law.
Israel is a weird place. Even people facing murder charges will be let loose to roam around while facing trial, but Palestinians in the territory can be held indefinitely with out being charged at all. Settlers live in the territories, where military rules apply – but are never actually applied.
The freeze doesn’t apply to public buildings (synagogues) and NYahoo has made a number of exceptions already.
like what potsherd?
He already mentioned synagogues for starters, and public buildings generally — meaning anything considered a possession of the state (of Israel, in spite of being on Palestinian land). Seriously, if you need help with reading comprehension you’re on the wrong blog.
Barak: Settlements are part of Israel, 12/02/09, By Tal Rabinovsky, ynetnews.com
www.ynetnews.com
News: In meeting with four West Bank council heads, Defense Minister Ehud Barak stresses that ‘settlement blocs are inseparable part of Israel in all future negotiations with Palestinians’. Vows council heads can continue to authorize infrastructure construction, small changes
LINK – link to ynetnews.com
Nine months? Hah!
link to syds-blog.blogspot.com
Just trust them Shmuel…lol
NEVER DEPEND…
Particularly – “Kerstein’s rap on the goyim is no different from the goyim rap on this blog last night.” hehe
Netanyahu is the Antichrist. Forget the blue turbin.
Say Phil, was this supposed to be the one we “trust them” on? lol (per the “we do not trust anyone” syndrome).
From Shmuel’s link –
“The new policy was to go into effect, yesterday. Today, one day into the new regime, an exception was announced. Permits will be issued for 84 new, previously not permited, buildings – representing 492 residential units – to be built in the West Bank. And work can begin during the “freeze.”
As meagre as Israel’s original gesture had been, the government couldn’t even live within its own parameters for 24 hours! The pressure from the Israeli right (both in and outside the government) was simply too great.”
Thanks, VR. Should have posted the snip myself, instead of just the link.
It seems that the AIPAC administration has been trying to drum up international support for BYahoo’s “settlement freeze.” No go. Russia wouldn’t sign.
Or, in short, the more they steal, the more they keep.
link to haaretz.com
Your eye is sharp as ever postherd. People here are lambasting Netanyahu over not really “freezing,” but this is even more amazing. What after all does it mean when the U.S. tries to get the Quartet and the U.N. to say that the future border between Israel and the Pal’s would “reflect developments on the ground”? Seems to me the *only* thing it can mean is that the U.S. is quietly contradicting its public statements saying the settlements and any settlement expansion is wrong and that only a peace deal can change the pre-’67 border situation, and now saying the opposite: That the extent of settlements should determine the details of the peace deal.
A simply humoungous, breathtaking thing if so (and again I don’t see how else one reads it), not least in its utter duplicity given what Obama and the U.S. says publicly. Even George Bush never went this far.
Same with that business of the jewish character of Israel: Obama earlier categorically rejected the idea that the Pal’s would have to accept this; now he is saying that the world should.
Something happened; Obama has just utterly, utterly capitulated. Makes me fear what he’s gonna cave on vis a vis Iran.
This is really something.
Yeah. You know, the fact that we’re on the wrong side of international law enforcement while Russia is on the right side of it (for reasons that may not be straightforward and wholesome perhaps, but still) makes me queasy.
On this thread? No Witty, no Julian, no Wondering Jew, no Yonira. Are we surprised?
It’s time for Obama to admit complete and abject failure, and get out of the way so the European Union can step in. Here’s a compelling argument for why the EU is better equipped than the Americans to get the job done.
link to guardian.co.uk
Would be nice, but Obama’s not going to get cooperation from his own staff during his term– people like Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod — let alone campaign finance dollars, if he doesn’t continually pledge allegiance to Israel. I think we have to face the notion that our government is under a virtual siege and that, sooner or later, our government is going to be maneuvered into a position where we’re on one side and the rest of the world — Europe included — is on the other. UN voting rolls, climate change, policies on prisoner detainment and torture, and bans on unethical military hardware are all precursors to where our relationship with the rest of the world is going.
Let’s not use Israel as an all-purpose scapegoat to excuse the sins of US imperialism. The US is the Evil Empire now and Israel only appeals to a system that was already corrupt at its core.
I’m not, potsherd but denying where Israel fits into US imperialism is kind of a mistake as well. It’s where American politicians go to do their proverbial laundry.
It’s a match made in Imperialism Heaven, to be sure.
Sadly, Europe is itself under military occupation.