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	<title>Comments on: Frank Gehry can&#8217;t be found on controversial J&#8217;lem project&#8217;s website</title>
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		<title>By: Jerusalem Museum of Tolerance in Disarray, Gehry Withdraws &#124; Tikun Olam-תקון עולם: Make the World a Better Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerusalem Museum of Tolerance in Disarray, Gehry Withdraws &#124; Tikun Olam-תקון עולם: Make the World a Better Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Weiss has some pretty good sources who last week caught the fact that the entire Museum of Tolerance Jerusalem website disappeared in a puff of smoke.  This led to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HollyTree</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/frank-gehry-cant-be-found-on-controversial-jlem-projects-website.html/comment-page-1#comment-138242</link>
		<dc:creator>HollyTree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is just one example: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-110964277.html

The cost overruns were due to GEHRY.  His designs were so faulty as well and the cost of undoing his mistakes cost MILLIONS.  Again, google Gehry and &quot;lawsuits&quot;.  The contractors get caught in the middle of his shenanigans.  It wasn&#039;t just the design which should have raised the red flag for those wanting Gehry as the architect, it SHOULD have been his record of problems with his projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is just one example: <a href="http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-110964277.html">link to encyclopedia.com</a></p>
<p>The cost overruns were due to GEHRY.  His designs were so faulty as well and the cost of undoing his mistakes cost MILLIONS.  Again, google Gehry and &#8220;lawsuits&#8221;.  The contractors get caught in the middle of his shenanigans.  It wasn&#8217;t just the design which should have raised the red flag for those wanting Gehry as the architect, it SHOULD have been his record of problems with his projects.</p>
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		<title>By: HollyTree</title>
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		<dc:creator>HollyTree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, you need to know the history of this project coming from Los Angeles to know why Gehry was chosen as the architect.  First, the seed planter of this project is one Gary Winnick (of Global Crossing fame) Richard Silverstein has all the info over there that I gave him last year.  Winnick and Gehry are buddies, but buddies go out the window when funding doesn&#039;t come through.  This project has been a &quot;headache&quot; for Gehry from the get go-and the sentiment from YEARS ago was that the project didn&#039;t have a snowball&#039;s chance in hell of being completed.  Gehry projects are infamous for their cost overrides written into the project agreements.  Outrageously expensive to begin with, they just keep getting more and more expensive as time goes on.  I suggest that if Gehry has pulled out it is because the funding needed to continue the project is not there.  With the economic meltdown particularly drying up the Jewish philanthropy sector, I would bet that many of those who made pledges towards the project have pulled out PLUS the cost has risen from the original cost of the project. Just google Gehry and see all the projects that he was supposed to do that fell through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, you need to know the history of this project coming from Los Angeles to know why Gehry was chosen as the architect.  First, the seed planter of this project is one Gary Winnick (of Global Crossing fame) Richard Silverstein has all the info over there that I gave him last year.  Winnick and Gehry are buddies, but buddies go out the window when funding doesn&#8217;t come through.  This project has been a &#8220;headache&#8221; for Gehry from the get go-and the sentiment from YEARS ago was that the project didn&#8217;t have a snowball&#8217;s chance in hell of being completed.  Gehry projects are infamous for their cost overrides written into the project agreements.  Outrageously expensive to begin with, they just keep getting more and more expensive as time goes on.  I suggest that if Gehry has pulled out it is because the funding needed to continue the project is not there.  With the economic meltdown particularly drying up the Jewish philanthropy sector, I would bet that many of those who made pledges towards the project have pulled out PLUS the cost has risen from the original cost of the project. Just google Gehry and see all the projects that he was supposed to do that fell through.</p>
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		<title>By: wondering jew</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/frank-gehry-cant-be-found-on-controversial-jlem-projects-website.html/comment-page-1#comment-138237</link>
		<dc:creator>wondering jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a documentary on PBS in which Gehry said he changed his name (on his first wife&#039;s prodding) so as not to have such a Jewish sounding name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a documentary on PBS in which Gehry said he changed his name (on his first wife&#8217;s prodding) so as not to have such a Jewish sounding name.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your cross-referencing is deep, vast and impressive.

You&#039;ve read all the great books that I&#039; m too lazy to bother with.

Kudos again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your cross-referencing is deep, vast and impressive.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve read all the great books that I&#8217; m too lazy to bother with.</p>
<p>Kudos again.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys.  You can show your appreciation by putting a little something in the hat on your way out.  Seriously, tomorrow it&#039;s back to no nonsense (paid) work, or my clients will really have me singing for my supper at the nearest metro station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys.  You can show your appreciation by putting a little something in the hat on your way out.  Seriously, tomorrow it&#8217;s back to no nonsense (paid) work, or my clients will really have me singing for my supper at the nearest metro station.</p>
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		<title>By: potsherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>potsherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hyskos/Hebrews theory is a lot of fun, but alas, it apparently fails on contact with the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hyskos/Hebrews theory is a lot of fun, but alas, it apparently fails on contact with the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...and didn’t come out of my blackout until the Red Sea closed behind us.&lt;/i&gt;

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;and didn’t come out of my blackout until the Red Sea closed behind us.</i></p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/frank-gehry-cant-be-found-on-controversial-jlem-projects-website.html/comment-page-1#comment-138201</link>
		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m familiar with the theory linking the Hyksos of Avaris to the ancient Hebrews, and the Exodus to their expulsion, and the restoration of the Egyptian monarchy.  I am also familiar with the theory that identifies the Hebrews with the &lt;i&gt;Hapiru/Apiru/Abiru&lt;/i&gt; mentioned in the Mari and Nuzi archives.  It&#039;s all speculation however, based on the idea that the descriptions in the Bible would appear to indicate some kernel of historical truth (Buber was a big fan of this approach, which he explains at length in &lt;i&gt;Moses&lt;/i&gt;).  Scholars such as David Daiches, on the other hand, were far less convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m familiar with the theory linking the Hyksos of Avaris to the ancient Hebrews, and the Exodus to their expulsion, and the restoration of the Egyptian monarchy.  I am also familiar with the theory that identifies the Hebrews with the <i>Hapiru/Apiru/Abiru</i> mentioned in the Mari and Nuzi archives.  It&#8217;s all speculation however, based on the idea that the descriptions in the Bible would appear to indicate some kernel of historical truth (Buber was a big fan of this approach, which he explains at length in <i>Moses</i>).  Scholars such as David Daiches, on the other hand, were far less convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He, unlike me, has been there, and come a long way. He knows, and has, as far as I can tell, put a lot of effort into being able to explicate the issues and situations involved in a clear and understandable way, (and in more than one language! Such a head!)
For me,  it was a visceral reaction,  which came very soon after I was old enough to understand what Zionism entailed.  But more than anything else,  my reaction to Zionism was a reaction to what it does to the American Jews who espouse it.  That was what I had contact with, and that was enough.  
And really, I was only, in my clumsy way, making explicit the decision most Jews  make silently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He, unlike me, has been there, and come a long way. He knows, and has, as far as I can tell, put a lot of effort into being able to explicate the issues and situations involved in a clear and understandable way, (and in more than one language! Such a head!)<br />
For me,  it was a visceral reaction,  which came very soon after I was old enough to understand what Zionism entailed.  But more than anything else,  my reaction to Zionism was a reaction to what it does to the American Jews who espouse it.  That was what I had contact with, and that was enough.<br />
And really, I was only, in my clumsy way, making explicit the decision most Jews  make silently.</p>
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