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By: The ‘Lift the Siege’ Protest in Tel Aviv You Never Heard Of « Katya Reed on Palestine/Israel

Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:34:01 +0000

[...] Mondoweiss noted the presence of the prominent Israeli journalist Gideon Levy and Shlomo Sands, the author of The Invention of the Jewish People. [...]

By: jan_gdyn

jan_gdyn — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:16:14 +0000

The American media have largely closed their eyes to this wrenching division in Israeli life–and, on a parochial note, deprived American Jews of any awareness of, let alone sustenance for, the reemergence of a non-Zionist tradition in Jewish communities.
Not sure about the characterization here. I think the Israeli division, rather than a wrenching one, is more like the flaking off of a fringe group from a overwhelming mass of consensus.

By: Saleema

Saleema — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:09:40 +0000

Someone deleted it? I didn’t even know you were banned. ( I banned myself from news for a while and political websites). I can’t imagine you saying something over the top to get banned.

By: Mooser

Mooser — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:43:52 +0000

Area Man, I applaud your use of numerals for Hasbara points. It’s a big step forward and will return a considerable benefit to the blog in reduced bandwith savings. But you need to get the numbers right! Your first point should be a No.”2″ Arabs Suck, not No”1″, which is, as we all know “Israel Rocks!”
And your No.”2″ should be a No.”4″, ” The Whole World Sucks!”
Anyway, so you can get it right in future posts, refer to:

link to jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com

And Happy Hasbara to you in the New Year!

By: annie

annie — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:34:47 +0000

VR, a more substantial response to your excellent points. The problem is not that they support things like the carnage of Gaza, but that they do not have enough information to make better informed decisions. that they support the carnage of gaza is of course the huge issue, it is the crux. from my view (and i could be wrong) jews in the diaspora are more likely to not embrace this violent form of zionism as those from within israel because they have not been a thoroughly indoctrinated. but either way jews and gentiles alike are completely programed to embrace the zionist model and fear marching out of lockstep due to decades of fear mongering and accusations of anti semitism. the fact of the matter, regardless of how 'tiny' this contingency inside israel is, for all of us information is needed to make better informed decisions. we become informed not only thru msm, for many people the gaza slaughter is what informed them DESPITE the msm because of basic common sense, logic and decency. aside from more and more massacres and blatant genocidal actions to shake humanity into the realization of the depravity of this situation and hoping their repulsion will kick in, information is the key and information or the lack is the focus being made in this post, it doesn't imply the coverage of this protest is going to make all zionist "come running to join the resistance with baited breath". it just means these people are there, protesting in solidarity and they deserve to be heard, they should be heard. we need to amplify every single action of dissent. here's helena cobban's coverage of the protest. Thankfully, Al Jazeera and AFP fully covered the story showing the world what actually happened last night–a thousand some passionate, articulate Israelis were bravely waking up the streets of Tel Aviv to the horrors of the blockade of Gaza, the occupation of Palestine, and the dire urgency for accountability in Israel. in solidarity.

By: Mooser

Mooser — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:33:36 +0000

Well, Cliff, you said it so don’t have to, but I was just about to quote that same sentence and respond :”You wish”.

By: annie

annie — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:50:39 +0000

if phil is not a zionist, how does ‘let my people grow’ support zionism? isn’t he talking about non/anti zionists?

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:59:42 +0000

Agreed and exactly why I have been trying for six years to bring attention to this in the blogosphere. Like watching what has existed in our MSM for the last five decades. And many including myself have been pushing against

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:31:53 +0000

Have brought this up for years on Washington Journal, Diane Rehm,. Talk of the Nation other outlets. Keep hammering maybe we can put another hole in the dam that blocks this issue being addresed honestly

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:28:45 +0000

Bull. I believe these folks are too chicken shit to tackle the issue honestly. Firedoglake could have Flynt Leverett (fact based) on one of their Salon. They could invite Micheal Scheuer, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, hell they could invite Derhshowitz on. Open up the dialugue on their sites. Tackle it.

How many times do we have to hear that this is one of the most critical if not the critical issue to resolve in the middle east?

We have been hearing it for five decades