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		<title>By: Combining Employee Motivation Programs and Health Insurance Plans &#124; Individual Health Insurance Mississippi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Combining Employee Motivation Programs and Health Insurance Plans &#124; Health Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: VR</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/on-the-lack-of-interest-in-the-goldstone-report.html/comment-page-1#comment-145108</link>
		<dc:creator>VR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact,  the aspersions of &quot;communism&quot; reached its apex during the McCarthy hearings and other similar witch hunts.  Perhaps one of the best examples of trying to stop any change for the people,  was the accusation of communism.   This is similar to the Utopian charge,  that you will meet the same fate,  or,  you will push the people eventually into this same position of being brutalized that communism produced.   Take the example of RFK when he put Hoffa on trial,  it was embedded - this accusation of being a communist - that it was used like a hammer against anyone who wanted to break the back of this elite entourage and the wake of poverty left in their power.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mefeedia.com/movie/14733601&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE ACCUSATION&lt;/a&gt;

The accusations are always made to retard the progress of the people,  and by the look of things today,  the acceleration of disenfranchisement,  it looks like they have succeeded -

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7R4Q-ahxCw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE RESULT&lt;/a&gt;

It of course have even gotten worse than this,  where the peoples wage has been frozen since the 1970&#039;s in America.  Now the whole scheme crashes,  and it cannot get back up (wait for the second economic dip),  because you cannot have a recovery without the people.  What might be asked is &quot;a recovery of what?&quot;   So you see,  you must watch out for utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact,  the aspersions of &#8220;communism&#8221; reached its apex during the McCarthy hearings and other similar witch hunts.  Perhaps one of the best examples of trying to stop any change for the people,  was the accusation of communism.   This is similar to the Utopian charge,  that you will meet the same fate,  or,  you will push the people eventually into this same position of being brutalized that communism produced.   Take the example of RFK when he put Hoffa on trial,  it was embedded &#8211; this accusation of being a communist &#8211; that it was used like a hammer against anyone who wanted to break the back of this elite entourage and the wake of poverty left in their power.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mefeedia.com/movie/14733601" rel="nofollow">THE ACCUSATION</a></p>
<p>The accusations are always made to retard the progress of the people,  and by the look of things today,  the acceleration of disenfranchisement,  it looks like they have succeeded -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7R4Q-ahxCw" rel="nofollow">THE RESULT</a></p>
<p>It of course have even gotten worse than this,  where the peoples wage has been frozen since the 1970&#8242;s in America.  Now the whole scheme crashes,  and it cannot get back up (wait for the second economic dip),  because you cannot have a recovery without the people.  What might be asked is &#8220;a recovery of what?&#8221;   So you see,  you must watch out for utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: VR</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/on-the-lack-of-interest-in-the-goldstone-report.html/comment-page-1#comment-145100</link>
		<dc:creator>VR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very mechanism of isolation and ostracizing is an act of elite formulation.  It has been used since the beginning of time,  whether it be for the  purposes of war and strife (to divide and conquer) or to maintain the idea of an enemy and dissuade men from reaching and grasping for their freedom,  their liberation.  However,  what you are left with is domination by the few when you say there is no other way and posit any other way as &quot;utopia.&quot;   This is because,  if it is the way things are supposed to be,  and it arises from the nature of man,  then you need force and domination to control humanity.  

Let me give you a link,  I have given it before because of its simplicity.  Now,  you may not like the way Omali Yeshitela communicates his point,  and say that he seems somewhat crude,  but it does not matter because he helps people understand what is taking place.  He couches it in the frame work of &quot;white power,&quot;  but who can blame him?  Racism is another one of those elite forms of division,   the idea of superiority of one race above another,  and so on.  Anyhow,  listen to it all the way through,  where he starts out talking about elite interests,  and ends with what it takes to control a system like this - 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE9HhMggiTQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CRISIS OF US IMPERIALISM&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very mechanism of isolation and ostracizing is an act of elite formulation.  It has been used since the beginning of time,  whether it be for the  purposes of war and strife (to divide and conquer) or to maintain the idea of an enemy and dissuade men from reaching and grasping for their freedom,  their liberation.  However,  what you are left with is domination by the few when you say there is no other way and posit any other way as &#8220;utopia.&#8221;   This is because,  if it is the way things are supposed to be,  and it arises from the nature of man,  then you need force and domination to control humanity.  </p>
<p>Let me give you a link,  I have given it before because of its simplicity.  Now,  you may not like the way Omali Yeshitela communicates his point,  and say that he seems somewhat crude,  but it does not matter because he helps people understand what is taking place.  He couches it in the frame work of &#8220;white power,&#8221;  but who can blame him?  Racism is another one of those elite forms of division,   the idea of superiority of one race above another,  and so on.  Anyhow,  listen to it all the way through,  where he starts out talking about elite interests,  and ends with what it takes to control a system like this &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE9HhMggiTQ" rel="nofollow">CRISIS OF US IMPERIALISM</a></p>
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		<title>By: VR</title>
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		<dc:creator>VR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally am amused by many who speak about the delusional aspect of communism&#039;s adherents and supporters (on the other hand I am an anarchist),  especially as if,  lets say in the USA,  that is their vantage point.  On the contrary,  I find life in the USA to be totally delusional in many aspects,  the ignorance is not only rife about communism but about their own existence and reality in the world.  So,  I find it hard,  to say in the least,  that the &quot;back yard&quot; view of most in the US is a clear vantage point for accessing delusion.  

I suppose if we relegate the delusion to outsiders than it can almost be guaranteed by the sheer distance and inexperience of those outside (as you said).  When you talk about the cover up in Israel I do not find it unlike that which takes place in the USA,  I find that Israel is a good student of deception.   In fact,  I find the one (deception) supports the other (US - Israeli),  and the similarity in the two sort of compliment each other,  and that is why it is so easy for the American to accept the Israeli delusion out of hand.  

When you talk about &quot;utopia,&quot;  I find it is easier to accept a definition of what utopia is supposed to be,  and therefore it dissuades the resistance of the people.  There is nothing easier than swallowing and accepting elite ideas,  not only for a people who are oppressed (and have no idea they are in a class war) but for those profiting most from the &quot;ideas.&quot;   This reduces naturally into religious deception about the &quot;nature&quot; of man,  when the destruction and strife arises by the will of the few - both the religious and what is currently occurring by elite agitation,  is swallowed whole as &quot;the way things are supposed to be.&quot;   One can wax eloquent philosophically about utopia,  and religiously about the  nature of man,  and they both come from the same fount.  It is the inability to recognize this,  expose it,  and route it that make men the captives of the powerful few,  and it has been present from ancient kingdoms,  to feudalism,  and on to capitalism (which has also had the same predominant characteristic,  the enrichment of the few).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally am amused by many who speak about the delusional aspect of communism&#8217;s adherents and supporters (on the other hand I am an anarchist),  especially as if,  lets say in the USA,  that is their vantage point.  On the contrary,  I find life in the USA to be totally delusional in many aspects,  the ignorance is not only rife about communism but about their own existence and reality in the world.  So,  I find it hard,  to say in the least,  that the &#8220;back yard&#8221; view of most in the US is a clear vantage point for accessing delusion.  </p>
<p>I suppose if we relegate the delusion to outsiders than it can almost be guaranteed by the sheer distance and inexperience of those outside (as you said).  When you talk about the cover up in Israel I do not find it unlike that which takes place in the USA,  I find that Israel is a good student of deception.   In fact,  I find the one (deception) supports the other (US &#8211; Israeli),  and the similarity in the two sort of compliment each other,  and that is why it is so easy for the American to accept the Israeli delusion out of hand.  </p>
<p>When you talk about &#8220;utopia,&#8221;  I find it is easier to accept a definition of what utopia is supposed to be,  and therefore it dissuades the resistance of the people.  There is nothing easier than swallowing and accepting elite ideas,  not only for a people who are oppressed (and have no idea they are in a class war) but for those profiting most from the &#8220;ideas.&#8221;   This reduces naturally into religious deception about the &#8220;nature&#8221; of man,  when the destruction and strife arises by the will of the few &#8211; both the religious and what is currently occurring by elite agitation,  is swallowed whole as &#8220;the way things are supposed to be.&#8221;   One can wax eloquent philosophically about utopia,  and religiously about the  nature of man,  and they both come from the same fount.  It is the inability to recognize this,  expose it,  and route it that make men the captives of the powerful few,  and it has been present from ancient kingdoms,  to feudalism,  and on to capitalism (which has also had the same predominant characteristic,  the enrichment of the few).</p>
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		<title>By: MRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin Murray,

Antiwar is conspiracy theory nonsense?
It publishes authors from Uri Avnery to Pat Buchanan, Juan Cole to John Pilger, Sibel Edmonds to Gabriel Kolko. You consider those people conspiracy theorists????  I&#039;m shocked. It&#039;s a news aggregator, in the main, publishing daily links to every major news and media outlet worldwide. What? because the site owner writes his own columns, that makes him a conspiracy theorist? Because he&#039;s antiwar?

And have I checked Giraldi&#039;s credentials? Absolutely. Years ago. He is an ex CIA officer who speaks five languages, was station chief overseas, and is a partner with Vincent Cannistraro (Sp?) -- check Cannistraro out. Also writes for the same mag that Steve McConnell here on Mondoweiss writes for. The American Conservative. Phil occasionally writes for this magazine.

I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to.</description>
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<p>Antiwar is conspiracy theory nonsense?<br />
It publishes authors from Uri Avnery to Pat Buchanan, Juan Cole to John Pilger, Sibel Edmonds to Gabriel Kolko. You consider those people conspiracy theorists????  I&#8217;m shocked. It&#8217;s a news aggregator, in the main, publishing daily links to every major news and media outlet worldwide. What? because the site owner writes his own columns, that makes him a conspiracy theorist? Because he&#8217;s antiwar?</p>
<p>And have I checked Giraldi&#8217;s credentials? Absolutely. Years ago. He is an ex CIA officer who speaks five languages, was station chief overseas, and is a partner with Vincent Cannistraro (Sp?) &#8212; check Cannistraro out. Also writes for the same mag that Steve McConnell here on Mondoweiss writes for. The American Conservative. Phil occasionally writes for this magazine.</p>
<p>I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The brain disconnects for many Jews when it comes to Israel. Mooser says it&#039;s a result of injections or sniffing of ziocain--good metaphor. Unpleasant results for Americans
and the world, but what the hey--since when does a druggie care about anybody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brain disconnects for many Jews when it comes to Israel. Mooser says it&#8217;s a result of injections or sniffing of ziocain&#8211;good metaphor. Unpleasant results for Americans<br />
and the world, but what the hey&#8211;since when does a druggie care about anybody?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Murray</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/on-the-lack-of-interest-in-the-goldstone-report.html/comment-page-1#comment-144861</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try not to agree with people from either side when tones are excessively combative. However, in this case MRW and you aren&#039;t simply yelling past each other. He is 100% right, and you are 100% wrong. Have you even looked at antiwar.com before dismissing it as conspiracy theory nonsense? Did you check Mr. Giraldi&#039;s credentials? You aren&#039;t just sticking your head in the sand, you are digging a bunker in the sand and crawling in face first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try not to agree with people from either side when tones are excessively combative. However, in this case MRW and you aren&#8217;t simply yelling past each other. He is 100% right, and you are 100% wrong. Have you even looked at antiwar.com before dismissing it as conspiracy theory nonsense? Did you check Mr. Giraldi&#8217;s credentials? You aren&#8217;t just sticking your head in the sand, you are digging a bunker in the sand and crawling in face first.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. I&#039;ve read some of their drivel. I even owned a historically precious copy of Soviet fantasy-land drivel printed in the USA (in 1935 IIRC), until I lent it and never got it back. The parallels in psychological denial are not trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. I&#8217;ve read some of their drivel. I even owned a historically precious copy of Soviet fantasy-land drivel printed in the USA (in 1935 IIRC), until I lent it and never got it back. The parallels in psychological denial are not trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: MRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Chaos, I&#039;ve become convinced over the last few days that yonira is a 14-15 year old kid -- even though I remember him claiming somewhere here that he was 23 or something -- and I feel a little badly for the hammer. He has zero, zip, reading comprehension ability. None. Zilch. He can&#039;t read the links we give him and devise what he&#039;s read. Every response is that same smart-alecky &#039;hey guys&#039; show me the proof and how can you all be so stupid blah blah shit shit high-schooley drivel. I mean, Cliff is 24. There is no comparison in  intellectual power or knowledge of the world. Cliff&#039;s grasp of language and argument is light years ahead of this kid. There is no way they can be the same age. Impossible. And yonira&#039;s response to mental stimuli here is on a high-school emotional level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Chaos, I&#8217;ve become convinced over the last few days that yonira is a 14-15 year old kid &#8212; even though I remember him claiming somewhere here that he was 23 or something &#8212; and I feel a little badly for the hammer. He has zero, zip, reading comprehension ability. None. Zilch. He can&#8217;t read the links we give him and devise what he&#8217;s read. Every response is that same smart-alecky &#8216;hey guys&#8217; show me the proof and how can you all be so stupid blah blah shit shit high-schooley drivel. I mean, Cliff is 24. There is no comparison in  intellectual power or knowledge of the world. Cliff&#8217;s grasp of language and argument is light years ahead of this kid. There is no way they can be the same age. Impossible. And yonira&#8217;s response to mental stimuli here is on a high-school emotional level.</p>
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