Comments on: Ahmed Moor wants to make aliyah! http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 17:59:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: DICKERSON3870 http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148378 DICKERSON3870 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:17:14 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148378 ALSO SEE: <i><b>Battle Begins Over Who'll Get Lucrative Haiti Cleanup Contracts</b></i>, by McClatchy Newspapers, 02/09/10 (EXCERPT) As Haiti begins digging out from under 60 million cubic meters of earthquake wreckage, U.S. firms have begun jockeying for a bonanza of cleanup work. At least two politically connected U.S. firms have enlisted powerful local allies in Haiti to help compete for the high-stakes business. It's unclear at this point who will be awarding the cleanup contracts, but there is big money to be made in the rubble of some 225,000 collapsed homes and at least 25,000 government and office buildings. At least two politically connected U.S. firms have enlisted powerful local allies in Haiti to help compete for the high-stakes business. Randal Perkins, the head of Pompano Beach-based AshBritt, has already met with President René Préval to tout his firm's skills. To press his case, Perkins, a big U.S. political donor with a stable of powerful lobbyists, has lined up a wealthy and influential Haitian businessman, <b>Gilbert Bigio</b>, as a partner. ENTIRE ARTICLE - http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/02/09-5 ALSO SEE: Battle Begins Over Who’ll Get Lucrative Haiti Cleanup Contracts, by McClatchy Newspapers, 02/09/10
(EXCERPT) As Haiti begins digging out from under 60 million cubic meters of earthquake wreckage, U.S. firms have begun jockeying for a bonanza of cleanup work.
At least two politically connected U.S. firms have enlisted powerful local allies in Haiti to help compete for the high-stakes business. It’s unclear at this point who will be awarding the cleanup contracts, but there is big money to be made in the rubble of some 225,000 collapsed homes and at least 25,000 government and office buildings.
At least two politically connected U.S. firms have enlisted powerful local allies in Haiti to help compete for the high-stakes business.
Randal Perkins, the head of Pompano Beach-based AshBritt, has already met with President René Préval to tout his firm’s skills. To press his case, Perkins, a big U.S. political donor with a stable of powerful lobbyists, has lined up a wealthy and influential Haitian businessman, Gilbert Bigio, as a partner.
ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to commondreams.org

]]> By: Shmuel http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148319 Shmuel Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:24:16 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148319 MH: <i>for Jews to react to Euro anti-Semitism by leaving was and is to give the anti-Semites a great deal of what they wanted</i> Jews left because their communities, families and lives had been destroyed. No one really cared at that point whether the anti-Semites were pleased or not. MH: for Jews to react to Euro anti-Semitism by leaving was and is to give the anti-Semites a great deal of what they wanted

Jews left because their communities, families and lives had been destroyed. No one really cared at that point whether the anti-Semites were pleased or not.

]]> By: MHughes976 http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148315 MHughes976 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:08:12 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148315 I share that sentiment! - I also agree with the suggestion that for Jews to react to Euro anti-Semitism by leaving was and is to give the anti-Semites a great deal of what they wanted - all of what they wanted if their complaint was that Jews were foreigners and should not be citizens or residents of Euro countries. The Nazi manifesto was designed to appeal to people who thought like that. I share that sentiment! – I also agree with the suggestion that for Jews to react to Euro anti-Semitism by leaving was and is to give the anti-Semites a great deal of what they wanted – all of what they wanted if their complaint was that Jews were foreigners and should not be citizens or residents of Euro countries. The Nazi manifesto was designed to appeal to people who thought like that.

]]> By: tree http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148310 tree Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:42:21 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148310 Thanks, Shmuel. I always learn something useful or just interesting whenever I read one of your comments. Thanks, Shmuel. I always learn something useful or just interesting whenever I read one of your comments.

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]]> By: aparisian http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148188 aparisian Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:46:02 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148188 BTW: if Palestinians convert to Judaism, they can gain Israel? BTW: if Palestinians convert to Judaism, they can gain Israel?

]]> By: Richard Parker http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148179 Richard Parker Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:28:27 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148179 These people, the Bnei Menashe, 'Children of Mannasseh' have been through this before, from 2000-2003, when some 1700 were brought to Israel, and settled in the Gaza Strip. Their conversion to Judaism dates back to 1951, when a Pentecostalist <b>dreamt</b> that his people's pre-Christian religion was Judaism and that their original homeland was Israel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bnei_Menashe These people, the Bnei Menashe, ‘Children of Mannasseh’ have been through this before, from 2000-2003, when some 1700 were brought to Israel, and settled in the Gaza Strip. Their conversion to Judaism dates back to 1951, when a Pentecostalist dreamt that his people’s pre-Christian religion was Judaism and that their original homeland was Israel
link to en.wikipedia.org

]]> By: aparisian http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148178 aparisian Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:27:00 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148178 Shmuel, these days i try to watch Guysen a French Israeli CNN. And i must admit i m very shocked by the information treatment of this channel. Yesterday for ex: they will showing the results of what they called the terrorism sympathy of the Arab people, according to them Palestinians are the most extremists after Lebanese and Egyptians. The conclusion of their polls is that Arabs show more sympathy to the international terrorism. They will also talking about Iran, saying i cite "Germany is a good student" because they accepted to cancel economic contracts with Iran after the demands of Israel. For them China is a partner with terrorism because they keep trading with Iran. They also were talking about Peace process, saying Abbas as all precedent Palestinian leaders never wanted to sit on the negotiations time, from their point of view he is playing the card of time. I mean how can any rational Israeli citizen believe this? How can we consider this as free media? Shmuel, these days i try to watch Guysen a French Israeli CNN. And i must admit i m very shocked by the information treatment of this channel. Yesterday for ex: they will showing the results of what they called the terrorism sympathy of the Arab people, according to them Palestinians are the most extremists after Lebanese and Egyptians. The conclusion of their polls is that Arabs show more sympathy to the international terrorism.
They will also talking about Iran, saying i cite “Germany is a good student” because they accepted to cancel economic contracts with Iran after the demands of Israel. For them China is a partner with terrorism because they keep trading with Iran.
They also were talking about Peace process, saying Abbas as all precedent Palestinian leaders never wanted to sit on the negotiations time, from their point of view he is playing the card of time.
I mean how can any rational Israeli citizen believe this? How can we consider this as free media?

]]> By: Richard Parker http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148174 Richard Parker Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:08:24 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148174 Lebanon also has some large refugee camps, such as Shatila, Sabra, Bourj al-Barajneh, and Ain el Helweh, but has a more draconian policy towards Palestinian refugees than either Jordan or Syria. <i>Walk into Lebanon's largest Palestinian refugee camp, Ain al-Helweh, at midday and you are struck by the number of school age children in the streets, many going to and from their UNRWA schools as they cannot attend state schools. Palestinians in Lebanon are also banned from seeking state healthcare, owning property and even bringing in building materials into the refugee camps.</i> Excerpt from: <b>Lebanon's Palestinian refugees</b> http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/05/2009527115531294628.html Lebanon also has some large refugee camps, such as Shatila, Sabra, Bourj al-Barajneh, and Ain el Helweh, but has a more draconian policy towards Palestinian refugees than either Jordan or Syria.

Walk into Lebanon’s largest Palestinian refugee camp, Ain al-Helweh, at midday and you are struck by the number of school age children in the streets, many going to and from their UNRWA schools as they cannot attend state schools.

Palestinians in Lebanon are also banned from seeking state healthcare, owning property and even bringing in building materials into the refugee camps.
Excerpt from: Lebanon’s Palestinian refugees
link to english.aljazeera.net

]]> By: Richard Parker http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/ahmed-moor-wants-to-make-aliyah.html/comment-page-1#comment-148171 Richard Parker Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:57:08 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14665#comment-148171 Jordan has several Palestinian refugee camps, which house nearly 300,000 people. <blockquote>In the early 1950s, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) took over responsibility from the active NGOs working in the field such as the Red Cross and American Friends. In Jordan, it established four camps to shelter those dispossessed of home, homeland, and means of livelihood due to the 1948 war. Palestinian refugees, according to UNRWA, are defined as persons whose normal residence was Palestine during the period between 1 June 1946 and 15 May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict, and who took refuge in one of the countries or areas where UNRWA provides relief – as well as their direct descendants through the male line.<blockquote> A camp, according to UNRWA, is a plot of land under the disposal of UNRWA given by the host government to accommodate Palestinian refugees and set up facilities to cater for their basic needs. In some cases, Palestinians were unable to get units in the refugee camps. Some camps were established by the Jordanian government but were not officially recognized by UNRWA. <b>In Jordan, in addition to the ten UNRWA-run or ‘official’ camps there are three unofficial camps:. Madaba, Prince Hassan (Nasser), and Sukhneh.</b> In December 2002, 42 per cent of the registered Palestinian refugees (1,698,271) lived in Jordan, of whom 17 per cent lived in camps, totalling a population of 296,803. UNRWA provides several basic services for registered Palestinian refugees These services include basic education, health care, and relief and social services. UNRWA’s relief services provide some assistance to special hardship cases (42,700) with food rations and a small financial subsidy. UNRWA has been left as the only organizational structure for the 1948 refugees. ‘The UN flag flying in the camps has a great symbolism,’ says William Lee, UNRWA Director in Jordan. ‘It means that the world hasn’t forgotten them.’</blockquote> http://www.forcedmigration.org/guides/fmo025/fmo025.pdf Jordan has several Palestinian refugee camps, which house nearly 300,000 people.

In the early 1950s, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) took over responsibility from the active NGOs working in the field such as the Red Cross and American Friends. In Jordan, it established four camps to shelter those dispossessed of home, homeland, and means of livelihood due to the 1948 war.
Palestinian refugees, according to UNRWA, are defined as persons whose normal residence was Palestine during the period between 1 June 1946 and 15 May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict, and who took refuge in one of the countries or areas where UNRWA provides relief – as well as their direct descendants through the male line.

A camp, according to UNRWA, is a plot of land under the disposal of UNRWA given by the host government to accommodate Palestinian refugees and set up facilities to cater for their basic needs. In some cases, Palestinians were unable to get units in the refugee camps. Some camps were established by the Jordanian government but were not officially recognized by UNRWA. In Jordan, in addition to the ten UNRWA-run or ‘official’ camps there are three unofficial camps:. Madaba, Prince Hassan (Nasser), and Sukhneh.

In December 2002, 42 per cent of the registered Palestinian refugees (1,698,271) lived in Jordan, of whom 17 per cent lived in camps, totalling a population of 296,803.
UNRWA provides several basic services for registered Palestinian refugees These services include basic education, health care, and relief and social services. UNRWA’s relief services provide some assistance to special hardship cases (42,700) with food rations and a small financial subsidy.

UNRWA has been left as the only organizational structure for the 1948 refugees. ‘The UN flag flying in the camps has a great symbolism,’ says William Lee, UNRWA Director in Jordan. ‘It means that the world hasn’t forgotten them.’

link to forcedmigration.org

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