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		<title>By: tree</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/crackdown-jpost-fires-naomi-chazan.html/comment-page-1#comment-147631</link>
		<dc:creator>tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll disagree with you on this point. The unanswered question is, why did the NIF threaten to sue? If the threat came prior to the release of the defending ad, which it did, I think it is a reasonable assumption to make that the threatened lawsuit was in response to a JPost initial refusal to run the ad countering the smear campaign ad.  I can think of no other logical reason for the NIF and Chazen lawyers to sue, particularly  &quot;over an advertisement&quot;.  Assuming thusly,  the JPost was attempting to limit the freedom of speech of the NIF in response to the smear campaign.   This is what has broader implications for Israeli society as a whole.  And firing Chazen because her lawyers rightly argued that the JPost could not be discriminatory in accepting ads, if that is what happened, also has broader negative implications for Israeli society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll disagree with you on this point. The unanswered question is, why did the NIF threaten to sue? If the threat came prior to the release of the defending ad, which it did, I think it is a reasonable assumption to make that the threatened lawsuit was in response to a JPost initial refusal to run the ad countering the smear campaign ad.  I can think of no other logical reason for the NIF and Chazen lawyers to sue, particularly  &#8220;over an advertisement&#8221;.  Assuming thusly,  the JPost was attempting to limit the freedom of speech of the NIF in response to the smear campaign.   This is what has broader implications for Israeli society as a whole.  And firing Chazen because her lawyers rightly argued that the JPost could not be discriminatory in accepting ads, if that is what happened, also has broader negative implications for Israeli society.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/crackdown-jpost-fires-naomi-chazan.html/comment-page-1#comment-147624</link>
		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the current atmosphere surrounding Goldstone and ImTirzu/Maariv&#039;s &quot;revelations&quot; about the NIF, I&#039;m sure the Post was more than happy to get rid of Chazan.  The issue here however is not one of Chazan&#039;s labour rights, but the broader implications for Israeli society.  In that sense, it does make a difference  whether the column was cancelled - if only officially - because of the ImTirzu smear campaign or because the NIF threatened to sue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the current atmosphere surrounding Goldstone and ImTirzu/Maariv&#8217;s &#8220;revelations&#8221; about the NIF, I&#8217;m sure the Post was more than happy to get rid of Chazan.  The issue here however is not one of Chazan&#8217;s labour rights, but the broader implications for Israeli society.  In that sense, it does make a difference  whether the column was cancelled &#8211; if only officially &#8211; because of the ImTirzu smear campaign or because the NIF threatened to sue.</p>
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		<title>By: tree</title>
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		<dc:creator>tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like retaliation to me. Or perhaps simply an after the fact excuse for her firing.  She was fired on Thursday and the &quot;reason&quot; for the firing wasn&#039;t disclosed until Sunday.  The JP refused to discuss it with Haaretz reporters when the news first came out, so they had three days to get  what they thought was an acceptable story out. Or two days to distance the reason for the  firing being connected to the defending ad which was run on Friday. 

     My real suspicion, from the cagey wording in the JP story about the NIF threatening to sue the JP &quot;over an advertisement&quot;, is that the JP,  which ran the ImTirzu ad depicting &quot;Naomi Goldstone Chazen&quot; with a horn on her forehead, may have at first refused to run the counter ad that defended CHazen and the NIF.  The NIF responded by threatening to sue the Post for its discriminatory ad policy, so the JPost was forced to run the defending ad on Friday, but retaliated by firing Chazen as a columnist on Thursday evening..  

Again, the preceding is only my suspicion of the reasoning behind the sequence of events, but regardless of whether my suspicions are true or not, the JPost&#039;s stated reason for firing Chazen does not diminish the  offense. In labor law,  any negative change in the working  status quo of an employee  after a lawsuit has been filed is an indication of a retaliatory impulse aimed at an unfair quashing of the legal action against it.  Chazen&#039;s status as a columnist was slightly different but it seems like the same principle applies here.    

In the meantime, even the CUFI (Christians United for Israel) have criticized the ImTirzu ad, according to the JPost.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://new.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=167666&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Christians fume over ad showing Chazen wearing horn&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like retaliation to me. Or perhaps simply an after the fact excuse for her firing.  She was fired on Thursday and the &#8220;reason&#8221; for the firing wasn&#8217;t disclosed until Sunday.  The JP refused to discuss it with Haaretz reporters when the news first came out, so they had three days to get  what they thought was an acceptable story out. Or two days to distance the reason for the  firing being connected to the defending ad which was run on Friday. </p>
<p>     My real suspicion, from the cagey wording in the JP story about the NIF threatening to sue the JP &#8220;over an advertisement&#8221;, is that the JP,  which ran the ImTirzu ad depicting &#8220;Naomi Goldstone Chazen&#8221; with a horn on her forehead, may have at first refused to run the counter ad that defended CHazen and the NIF.  The NIF responded by threatening to sue the Post for its discriminatory ad policy, so the JPost was forced to run the defending ad on Friday, but retaliated by firing Chazen as a columnist on Thursday evening..  </p>
<p>Again, the preceding is only my suspicion of the reasoning behind the sequence of events, but regardless of whether my suspicions are true or not, the JPost&#8217;s stated reason for firing Chazen does not diminish the  offense. In labor law,  any negative change in the working  status quo of an employee  after a lawsuit has been filed is an indication of a retaliatory impulse aimed at an unfair quashing of the legal action against it.  Chazen&#8217;s status as a columnist was slightly different but it seems like the same principle applies here.    </p>
<p>In the meantime, even the CUFI (Christians United for Israel) have criticized the ImTirzu ad, according to the JPost.</p>
<p><a href="http://new.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=167666" rel="nofollow"> Christians fume over ad showing Chazen wearing horn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, WJ.  The Post may have been looking for an excuse, but firing a columnist who heads an organisation that threatened to sue the paper is not the same as sacking her for her views or political activities.  I&#039;m waiting to hear Chazan&#039;s side of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, WJ.  The Post may have been looking for an excuse, but firing a columnist who heads an organisation that threatened to sue the paper is not the same as sacking her for her views or political activities.  I&#8217;m waiting to hear Chazan&#8217;s side of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: potsherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>potsherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the less actual terrorism, the more intensely the Israelis ramp up the &quot;security&quot; machine, the  fear, the oppression of nonviolent dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the less actual terrorism, the more intensely the Israelis ramp up the &#8220;security&#8221; machine, the  fear, the oppression of nonviolent dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avi, this might be a dumb question, but are you Israeli? I recall you being able to speak Hebrew? What&#039;s you background? Just curious/interested to hear more about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avi, this might be a dumb question, but are you Israeli? I recall you being able to speak Hebrew? What&#8217;s you background? Just curious/interested to hear more about you.</p>
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		<title>By: wondering jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondering jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in:
The Jerusalem Post has canceled Naomi Chazan’s biweekly column, after she and the New Israel Fund of which she is president threatened legal action against the paper over a recent advertisement.

The decision was taken by Jerusalem Post management after a legal threat was received at the paper from the NIF and Chazan’s lawyers.

Along with other publications, the Post last Sunday carried an advertisement criticizing Chazan and the New Israel Fund in the context of the Goldstone Report on Operation Cast Lead.

In Friday’s paper, the Post carried an advertisement defending the NIF and Chazan against their critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in:<br />
The Jerusalem Post has canceled Naomi Chazan’s biweekly column, after she and the New Israel Fund of which she is president threatened legal action against the paper over a recent advertisement.</p>
<p>The decision was taken by Jerusalem Post management after a legal threat was received at the paper from the NIF and Chazan’s lawyers.</p>
<p>Along with other publications, the Post last Sunday carried an advertisement criticizing Chazan and the New Israel Fund in the context of the Goldstone Report on Operation Cast Lead.</p>
<p>In Friday’s paper, the Post carried an advertisement defending the NIF and Chazan against their critics.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avi: &lt;i&gt;The intense fear at the gates, even when it is non-existent or when it is minute, the Israeli government will seek to exacerbate it because it serves a goal much in the same way the fear mongering in the US after 9/11 has served the goal of keeping the masses on a short leash while violating their basic civil rights and privacy.&lt;/i&gt;

I was thinking about that the other day.  I had to go to the Israeli embassy to renew my passport, and the security measures were even more way out than the last time I was there, two years ago.  I was wondering what had changed, and the answer of course was nothing.  The checks were very theatrical, but inconsistent.  My belt was taken apart, my credit and business cards scrutinised, the change in my wallet poked through, my coat x-rayed, but my clothing and person were only subjected to a metal detector.  Anything that could have been hiding in my collection of business cards could just as easily have been in my shoe, or simply in my pocket.  I was questioned 3 times by 3 different security guards, who all asked the same questions.  The theatrical excess was obviously intended to justify itself and to reinforce the fears of Israelis abroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avi: <i>The intense fear at the gates, even when it is non-existent or when it is minute, the Israeli government will seek to exacerbate it because it serves a goal much in the same way the fear mongering in the US after 9/11 has served the goal of keeping the masses on a short leash while violating their basic civil rights and privacy.</i></p>
<p>I was thinking about that the other day.  I had to go to the Israeli embassy to renew my passport, and the security measures were even more way out than the last time I was there, two years ago.  I was wondering what had changed, and the answer of course was nothing.  The checks were very theatrical, but inconsistent.  My belt was taken apart, my credit and business cards scrutinised, the change in my wallet poked through, my coat x-rayed, but my clothing and person were only subjected to a metal detector.  Anything that could have been hiding in my collection of business cards could just as easily have been in my shoe, or simply in my pocket.  I was questioned 3 times by 3 different security guards, who all asked the same questions.  The theatrical excess was obviously intended to justify itself and to reinforce the fears of Israelis abroad.</p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the 2006 ceasefire, UNIFIL has reported that Israel has vilated the ceasefire on 2500 occasions, while Hezbollah has none.

This is the crux of the matter.  Israel is used to getting away with breaking the rules with impunity, which has become the status quo of what the world regards as calm and peace.  

When Israel&#039;s enemies break the ceasfire, if inly once, it becomes an act of war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the 2006 ceasefire, UNIFIL has reported that Israel has vilated the ceasefire on 2500 occasions, while Hezbollah has none.</p>
<p>This is the crux of the matter.  Israel is used to getting away with breaking the rules with impunity, which has become the status quo of what the world regards as calm and peace.  </p>
<p>When Israel&#8217;s enemies break the ceasfire, if inly once, it becomes an act of war.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VR, You are absolutely right. I seem to have phrased my post incorrectly. 

Chu, 

The intense fear at the gates, even when it is non-existent or when it is minute, the Israeli government will seek to exacerbate it because it serves a goal much in the same way the fear mongering in the US after 9/11 has served the goal of keeping the masses on a short leash while violating their basic civil rights and privacy. 

Israel will dissolve if it weren&#039;t for such uniting forces, among which is fear. 

Socially, Israeli society is rather fragmented, the hierarchical division between European Jews, Mizrahi Jews and Sephardi Jews is too fragile. If you removed the political tensions and threats, all these social divisions will rear their ugly head, not to mention the constant push-pull relationship between orthodox and secular Judaism in Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VR, You are absolutely right. I seem to have phrased my post incorrectly. </p>
<p>Chu, </p>
<p>The intense fear at the gates, even when it is non-existent or when it is minute, the Israeli government will seek to exacerbate it because it serves a goal much in the same way the fear mongering in the US after 9/11 has served the goal of keeping the masses on a short leash while violating their basic civil rights and privacy. </p>
<p>Israel will dissolve if it weren&#8217;t for such uniting forces, among which is fear. </p>
<p>Socially, Israeli society is rather fragmented, the hierarchical division between European Jews, Mizrahi Jews and Sephardi Jews is too fragile. If you removed the political tensions and threats, all these social divisions will rear their ugly head, not to mention the constant push-pull relationship between orthodox and secular Judaism in Israel.</p>
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