Comments on: People Are Talking About BDS http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 17:59:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153140 Mooser Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:49:21 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153140 And Obama blew his one and probably only chance to get America's military back under civilian control. What a chump! He could have had the entire military ready to kiss his ass if he had even restricted his administration to investigating and prosecuting <i>financial</i> and <i>military-administrative</i> crimes only, not even coming near war crimes or torture. But no, Obama covers the backs of those who will put a knife into his. Think about it: with the military basically doing whatever it wants to, Obama can't make any moves without worrying that events in Iraq or Afghanistan (precipitated by our military) will upstage him. And they will, they will screw Obama, but good. Ask yourself one question: Do you think the military and CIA and the contractors have been saving all the good results and honorable endings they refused to deliver to Bush, for Obama? GMAFB! So they are gonna end this thing, so Obama can get an accounting of what happened for the last eight years with a couple of "six-week, certainly not over six-month" wars? Obama had a small opening during which he could have gotten the military back under civilian government control, and he didn't take it, and he will pay, big time for that abrogation of a President's job. And Obama blew his one and probably only chance to get America’s military back under civilian control. What a chump! He could have had the entire military ready to kiss his ass if he had even restricted his administration to investigating and prosecuting financial and military-administrative crimes only, not even coming near war crimes or torture. But no, Obama covers the backs of those who will put a knife into his.
Think about it: with the military basically doing whatever it wants to, Obama can’t make any moves without worrying that events in Iraq or Afghanistan (precipitated by our military) will upstage him.
And they will, they will screw Obama, but good. Ask yourself one question: Do you think the military and CIA and the contractors have been saving all the good results and honorable endings they refused to deliver to Bush, for Obama? GMAFB! So they are gonna end this thing, so Obama can get an accounting of what happened for the last eight years with a couple of “six-week, certainly not over six-month” wars?
Obama had a small opening during which he could have gotten the military back under civilian government control, and he didn’t take it, and he will pay, big time for that abrogation of a President’s job.

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153135 Mooser Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:27:08 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153135 I shoulda kept my mouth shut! Speak of the Devil.... I just read on another thread, Witty's comments, and Avi's and Shmuel's devestating replies. I, fool that I am, thought those replies, from those with lots of experience in the area, would shut him up, but guess not. Well, it's nice to know that the Chabad Rabbi (and his wife) have told Witty "definitively" that the Palestinians are not the Ameleks! Wheww, I'm relieved! Guess that makes everything alright. I shoulda kept my mouth shut! Speak of the Devil….

I just read on another thread, Witty’s comments, and Avi’s and Shmuel’s devestating replies. I, fool that I am, thought those replies, from those with lots of experience in the area, would shut him up, but guess not.

Well, it’s nice to know that the Chabad Rabbi (and his wife) have told Witty “definitively” that the Palestinians are not the Ameleks! Wheww, I’m relieved! Guess that makes everything alright.

]]> By: MRW http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153076 MRW Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:03:05 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153076 VR, Barnett is an arrogant fuck,and he was wrong about a lot of things: didn't foresee as he says a lot of unintended consequences. And his whole argument in the Q&A about Muslims not allowing women to enter the workforce can also be applied to Orthodox Jews in Israel, here, and worldwide. 10-13% of Muslims worldwide are fundamentalists. 12.56%-13.53% of Jews are Orthodox. That question from the Pakistani just flew over his head. VR,

Barnett is an arrogant fuck,and he was wrong about a lot of things: didn’t foresee as he says a lot of unintended consequences. And his whole argument in the Q&A about Muslims not allowing women to enter the workforce can also be applied to Orthodox Jews in Israel, here, and worldwide. 10-13% of Muslims worldwide are fundamentalists. 12.56%-13.53% of Jews are Orthodox.

That question from the Pakistani just flew over his head.

]]> By: MRW http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153068 MRW Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:55:38 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153068 VR, You ruined my weekend with all the great links you suggested. VR,

You ruined my weekend with all the great links you suggested.

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153063 Mooser Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:32:22 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153063 Witty has been less and less among those present of late. I have a feeling it's a permanent change. He's pretty much shot his bolt now that Avi and Shmuel and others who have a much greater depth of both factual knowledge and recent experience (life experience, too, not a tour) are posting. I'll bet we never again see the kind of Witty-on-every-thread action we used to see! It's funny, by Witty making good and goddam sure Mondoweiss knew his opinion on every subject, it just made it all the easier to post articles in a way that made them pretty much unanswerable by Witty. Oh, maybe. I doubt they felt it necessary to pay all that much attention to him. But when actual real Israelis who know the score began regularly posting, that was pretty much Dick's exit signal, methinks. Witty has been less and less among those present of late. I have a feeling it’s a permanent change. He’s pretty much shot his bolt now that Avi and Shmuel and others who have a much greater depth of both factual knowledge and recent experience (life experience, too, not a tour) are posting.
I’ll bet we never again see the kind of Witty-on-every-thread action we used to see!
It’s funny, by Witty making good and goddam sure Mondoweiss knew his opinion on every subject, it just made it all the easier to post articles in a way that made them pretty much unanswerable by Witty. Oh, maybe. I doubt they felt it necessary to pay all that much attention to him.
But when actual real Israelis who know the score began regularly posting, that was pretty much Dick’s exit signal, methinks.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153042 Citizen Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:06:24 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153042 Hey some of us really do care about social justice--here's the proof: http://www.counterpunch.org/parrish02262010.html Hey some of us really do care about social justice–here’s the proof:
link to counterpunch.org

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153038 Citizen Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:36:15 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153038 Instead we have a common denominator called "I need more and better stuff!" http://www.counterpunch.org/bageant02242010.html Read it along with Shmuel's comment above on this thread concerning thieves. Instead we have a common denominator called “I need more and better stuff!”
link to counterpunch.org

Read it along with Shmuel’s comment above on this thread concerning thieves.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153037 Citizen Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:28:56 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153037 In the USA the 1% at the super-rich top are the biggest thieves to gain even bigger advantage; the 14% next below are their minions; the other 85% just bend over and keep taking it up the ass so they can either be somebody (look at my new stuff!) or simply survive. In the USA the 1% at the super-rich top are the biggest thieves to gain even bigger advantage; the 14% next below are their minions; the other 85% just bend over and keep taking it up the ass so they can either be somebody (look at my new stuff!) or simply survive.

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153026 Mooser Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:47:26 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153026 I would certainly go and visit a family member in for murder. I would not go and visit a family member so they can show me the house they stole and serve me the stolen food they eat. Besides, one thing life has taught me is this: In this life, there are those who steal, and those who try not to. Once a person has crossed that bridge to become a theif (out of advantage, not need) they don't care who they steal from. Can you honestly tell me a person who will endorse theft and murder has a sacred sense of family? I really doubt it: all of us are our family, and anyone who will steal from a stranger (to gain advantage) will steal from a brother or sister. When our life spans are more than doubled, I'll try it both ways, in the meantime, since life is short, I've got no time for those <i>who can't be bothered to even try and avoid crime</i>. I would certainly go and visit a family member in for murder. I would not go and visit a family member so they can show me the house they stole and serve me the stolen food they eat.
Besides, one thing life has taught me is this: In this life, there are those who steal, and those who try not to. Once a person has crossed that bridge to become a theif (out of advantage, not need) they don’t care who they steal from. Can you honestly tell me a person who will endorse theft and murder has a sacred sense of family? I really doubt it: all of us are our family, and anyone who will steal from a stranger (to gain advantage) will steal from a brother or sister. When our life spans are more than doubled, I’ll try it both ways, in the meantime, since life is short, I’ve got no time for those who can’t be bothered to even try and avoid crime.

]]> By: Mooser http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/people-are-talking-about-bds.html/comment-page-1#comment-153025 Mooser Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:37:55 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=15471#comment-153025 Chaos, whack-a-mole is only fun when the moles come up unexpectedly, out of different holes. But when they come up out of the same goddam shit-hole every time? My God, what a capacity for humiliation they must have, either that or.... Chaos, whack-a-mole is only fun when the moles come up unexpectedly, out of different holes.
But when they come up out of the same goddam shit-hole every time?
My God, what a capacity for humiliation they must have, either that or….

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