Comments on: The ‘Times’ now owes it to its readers to assign an Arab-American reporter to Jerusalem http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Mon, 28 May 2012 17:16:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147916 Citizen Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:43:58 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147916 Hey, RW, ignore yonira--he's just a child as no doubt you've plainly seen, and wants to cling to romantic delusions when faced with hard facts about Israel. You can be sure he wouldn't call you names if you were standing in front of him. Hey, RW, ignore yonira–he’s just a child as no doubt you’ve plainly seen, and wants to cling to romantic delusions
when faced with hard facts about Israel. You can be sure he wouldn’t call you names if you were standing in front of him.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147909 Citizen Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:15:23 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147909 Now that's a recipe for hope. Now that’s a recipe for hope.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147906 Citizen Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:09:02 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147906 The linear logic is if you trace back Nazi philosophy from its origins in the latter part of the 19th Century, you will find a spin-off copycat in the origins of Zionism in the same time frame and place. A most special peoplehood, lebensraum, ancient mythical justification. The linear logic is if you trace back Nazi philosophy from its origins in the latter part of the 19th Century, you will find a spin-off copycat in the origins of Zionism in the same time frame and place. A most special peoplehood, lebensraum, ancient mythical justification.

]]> By: Avi http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147877 Avi Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:43:28 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147877 The assumption is that by replacing the reporter, the NYT's tone and bias will change. But, since editors and owners of the NYT have their own agendas, it makes little difference, really. The assumption is that by replacing the reporter, the NYT’s tone and bias will change. But, since editors and owners of the NYT have their own agendas, it makes little difference, really.

]]> By: Avi http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147875 Avi Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:39:00 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147875 That wasn't as linear a logic as you're used to, kudos. That wasn’t as linear a logic as you’re used to, kudos.

]]> By: Tuyzentfloot http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147846 Tuyzentfloot Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:29:44 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147846 Admittedly, if you put it that way... Admittedly, if you put it that way…

]]> By: lyn117 http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147818 lyn117 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:45:57 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147818 Here's (pretty much) what I posted earlier after reading through a bunch of Ethan Bronner articles and listening to his NPR interview. I have to say that his "big picture" outlook is entirely pro-Zionist, pro-Israel, and it absolutely creeps into his reporting on facts. On the positive side, he seems to be OK on human interest - even when the subjects are Palestinian. One example from Nov. 26 news analysis – he says (regarding requirements of the "roadmap"): '“a casual observer could have concluded that each had carried out its duty and that peace talks would move forward. [...] '“But the casual observer would probably be mistaken. There are unlikely to be peace talks soon. In fact, tensions seem set to rise, partly because the claims of each side amount to half-truths, as the other is the first to note.” 'In this article, Bronner notes that the half-truth the Palestinians accuse the Israelis of is that their settlement “freeze” excluded East Jerusalem, settlements already authorized and was only for 10 months. 'On the other hand, the half-truth the Israelis accuse the Palestinians of is that the Palestinian security efforts are inadequate because without constant Israeli raids into Palestinian territory there would be rockets fired from the West Bank. 'This seems like the classic “balanced” reporting. The Palestinians are stating an obvious fact, the Israelis are making rather dubious claims about the future, and failing condition it with other possibilities such as Israel actually offering an honest, just peace (OK, maybe that’s not realistic, but it is a possibility), yet Bronner reports both as equivalent half-truths. Bronner is prone to accusing the Palestinians of anti-semitism, yet when the Israeli army spokesperson refers to their actions in regularly killing a few people in the West Bank as "mowing the grass" he has no comment. Reports on settler violence are buried in human interest stories sympathetic to the settlers. In another article he admits there are Jewish terrorists, the people who killed Rabin. Again, classic "balanced" reporting. When it comes to Israel committing war crimes, as with all the evidence provided by numerous human rights organizations, suddenly he's an agnostic, its all "fog of war." He certainly reminded me of RW. Here’s (pretty much) what I posted earlier after reading through a bunch of Ethan Bronner articles and listening to his NPR interview. I have to say that his “big picture” outlook is entirely pro-Zionist, pro-Israel, and it absolutely creeps into his reporting on facts. On the positive side, he seems to be OK on human interest – even when the subjects are Palestinian.

One example from Nov. 26 news analysis – he says (regarding requirements of the “roadmap”):

‘“a casual observer could have concluded that each had carried out its duty and that peace talks would move forward. [...]
‘“But the casual observer would probably be mistaken. There are unlikely to be peace talks soon. In fact, tensions seem set to rise, partly because the claims of each side amount to half-truths, as the other is the first to note.”

‘In this article, Bronner notes that the half-truth the Palestinians accuse the Israelis of is that their settlement “freeze” excluded East Jerusalem, settlements already authorized and was only for 10 months.

‘On the other hand, the half-truth the Israelis accuse the Palestinians of is that the Palestinian security efforts are inadequate because without constant Israeli raids into Palestinian territory there would be rockets fired from the West Bank.

‘This seems like the classic “balanced” reporting. The Palestinians are stating an obvious fact, the Israelis are making rather dubious claims about the future, and failing condition it with other possibilities such as Israel actually offering an honest, just peace (OK, maybe that’s not realistic, but it is a possibility), yet Bronner reports both as equivalent half-truths.

Bronner is prone to accusing the Palestinians of anti-semitism, yet when the Israeli army spokesperson refers to their actions in regularly killing a few people in the West Bank as “mowing the grass” he has no comment. Reports on settler violence are buried in human interest stories sympathetic to the settlers.

In another article he admits there are Jewish terrorists, the people who killed Rabin. Again, classic “balanced” reporting. When it comes to Israel committing war crimes, as with all the evidence provided by numerous human rights organizations, suddenly he’s an agnostic, its all “fog of war.” He certainly reminded me of RW.

]]> By: seeingformyself http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147806 seeingformyself Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:33:51 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147806 Richard Parker....thanks! It's excellent film and excellent reporting. People are shocked when they find out our house is a "no TV zone" They wonder how in the world I manage life with out TV...if our TV offered reports similar to this...I'd consider purchasing one. Richard Parker….thanks! It’s excellent film and excellent reporting.
People are shocked when they find out our house is a “no TV zone” They wonder how in the world I manage life with out TV…if our TV offered reports similar to this…I’d consider purchasing one.

]]> By: zamaaz http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147805 zamaaz Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:26:14 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147805 'Why is it an "accusation" to say someone is a Zionist? Many people think that’s a good thing;' Every person, Jew or non-Jew, who broadly understood, recognizes, and strongly appreciates with conviction both the historical and spiritual origin of Jews, as well as to its future... take it or leave it, become a Zionist... You may turn in or turn out views like a dough, the said person remains a Zionist... To oppose this Zionist view, by a Jew or non-Jew, towards both Israel and Jerusalem, one needs to an anti-Judaism or at most in principle an anti-Semitic... Sad but a realistic fact; could there be a another just and sound reason (otherwise)? None!... ‘Why is it an “accusation” to say someone is a Zionist? Many people think that’s a good thing;’
Every person, Jew or non-Jew, who broadly understood, recognizes, and strongly appreciates with conviction both the historical and spiritual origin of Jews, as well as to its future… take it or leave it, become a Zionist…
You may turn in or turn out views like a dough, the said person remains a Zionist…
To oppose this Zionist view, by a Jew or non-Jew, towards both Israel and Jerusalem, one needs to an anti-Judaism or at most in principle an anti-Semitic…
Sad but a realistic fact; could there be a another just and sound reason (otherwise)? None!…

]]> By: yonira http://mondoweiss.net/2010/02/the-times-now-owes-it-to-its-readers-to-assign-an-arab-american-reporter-to-jerusalem.html/comment-page-1#comment-147804 yonira Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:18:32 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=14612#comment-147804 Richard, your asshole called, it wants to give us your head back. Richard,

your asshole called, it wants to give us your head back.

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