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		<title>By: bigbill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you leave when they started chanting &quot;kill them&quot;, or did you stay and listen?  Did you stand up and say something?  Did any of the other Yeshiva bochurs? Surely fear didn&#039;t stop you.  After all, you are a member of the tribe and God has rules against you killing each other. 

I have to admit, as a gentile, it gives me that same creepy feeling that Jews get when they heard Borat firing those drunks up to start singing &quot;throw the Jew down the well&quot;.  

I get the same feeling that I get when I hear Muslims shouting the same stuff in their American &quot;Islamic Centers&quot;.

Surprising the bochurs talk so easily of killing us gentiles, however.  Its seems pretty damn difficult to get them to join the IDF.  Secular Jews in Israel are losing patience in a big way. 

Maybe you ought to encourage them to make aliyah. I really think that kind of talk is better suited to Israelis than Americans. They are steeped in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you leave when they started chanting &#8220;kill them&#8221;, or did you stay and listen?  Did you stand up and say something?  Did any of the other Yeshiva bochurs? Surely fear didn&#8217;t stop you.  After all, you are a member of the tribe and God has rules against you killing each other. </p>
<p>I have to admit, as a gentile, it gives me that same creepy feeling that Jews get when they heard Borat firing those drunks up to start singing &#8220;throw the Jew down the well&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I get the same feeling that I get when I hear Muslims shouting the same stuff in their American &#8220;Islamic Centers&#8221;.</p>
<p>Surprising the bochurs talk so easily of killing us gentiles, however.  Its seems pretty damn difficult to get them to join the IDF.  Secular Jews in Israel are losing patience in a big way. </p>
<p>Maybe you ought to encourage them to make aliyah. I really think that kind of talk is better suited to Israelis than Americans. They are steeped in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I practice &quot;dental remedication&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I practice &#8220;dental remedication&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;No excuse of course, but harrassment of minorities rarely breeds good feeling.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Damn it Witty, of course you&#039;re right, but the hell of it is, we&#039;re Jews, and that&#039;s our job!  It&#039;s up to us to bear the brunt of all the discrimination and brutality in the world, and be the scapegoats for the world&#039;s sins!  If we ever stop the world will end!

I mean you don&#039;t want some body besides us Jews to have to put up with any of that brutality, right?  And don&#039;t you think this system, where &lt;i&gt;nobody suffers except the Jews&lt;/i&gt; has worked out pretty well so far? Just think of the number of people we have saved from harm!

Witty, you are an insufferable hypocrite, and your pretenses to spirituality could be bottled and sold for an effective emetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;No excuse of course, but harrassment of minorities rarely breeds good feeling.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Damn it Witty, of course you&#8217;re right, but the hell of it is, we&#8217;re Jews, and that&#8217;s our job!  It&#8217;s up to us to bear the brunt of all the discrimination and brutality in the world, and be the scapegoats for the world&#8217;s sins!  If we ever stop the world will end!</p>
<p>I mean you don&#8217;t want some body besides us Jews to have to put up with any of that brutality, right?  And don&#8217;t you think this system, where <i>nobody suffers except the Jews</i> has worked out pretty well so far? Just think of the number of people we have saved from harm!</p>
<p>Witty, you are an insufferable hypocrite, and your pretenses to spirituality could be bottled and sold for an effective emetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, of course, all of us are mortal except Witty, who learned to dis-assemble himself and reconstruct the component parts in a new place or time, a little skill he picked up at the &lt;i&gt;ashram&lt;/i&gt;.  In fact, his spiritual attainments are vast, including a complete control of his nerve system.  He never needs to ask his dentist for pain pills either. He has mastered  arcane arts and learned to transcend dental medication!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, of course, all of us are mortal except Witty, who learned to dis-assemble himself and reconstruct the component parts in a new place or time, a little skill he picked up at the <i>ashram</i>.  In fact, his spiritual attainments are vast, including a complete control of his nerve system.  He never needs to ask his dentist for pain pills either. He has mastered  arcane arts and learned to transcend dental medication!</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;“Who knows what I was on track to be…”&lt;/i&gt;

Some people find the illusion that they are on a track, instead of adrift on an ocean, comforting.  I never did, for whatever reason. The only thing we are on a straight track to is death, our universal destination.  

Or maybe I&#039;ll wake up tommorrow and join &lt;i&gt;Chabad&lt;/i&gt;. Hey,  it could happen!  It just so happens I look really hot-hot-hot in one of those black caftans and a fedora.

Look, you never know in this life; I was being encouraged to spend high-school summers on an Israeli &lt;i&gt;kibbutz&lt;/i&gt; when I was young.   You want to know what stopped me? I heard they wore shorts and &lt;i&gt;did folk dances in a circle&lt;/i&gt;!  I resolved to avoid it at all costs, as well beyond the frozen limit.
And I have never regretted my decision for a moment.  If there&#039;s one thing you can count on in this unstable, uncertain world, it&#039;s that any situation which requires wearing shorts and dancing in a circle should be given the entire miss-in-baulk! About that I am adamant!  And when I say adamant, I mean, well, you know... adamant! ( If that&#039;s the word I want.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;“Who knows what I was on track to be…”</i></p>
<p>Some people find the illusion that they are on a track, instead of adrift on an ocean, comforting.  I never did, for whatever reason. The only thing we are on a straight track to is death, our universal destination.  </p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;ll wake up tommorrow and join <i>Chabad</i>. Hey,  it could happen!  It just so happens I look really hot-hot-hot in one of those black caftans and a fedora.</p>
<p>Look, you never know in this life; I was being encouraged to spend high-school summers on an Israeli <i>kibbutz</i> when I was young.   You want to know what stopped me? I heard they wore shorts and <i>did folk dances in a circle</i>!  I resolved to avoid it at all costs, as well beyond the frozen limit.<br />
And I have never regretted my decision for a moment.  If there&#8217;s one thing you can count on in this unstable, uncertain world, it&#8217;s that any situation which requires wearing shorts and dancing in a circle should be given the entire miss-in-baulk! About that I am adamant!  And when I say adamant, I mean, well, you know&#8230; adamant! ( If that&#8217;s the word I want.)</p>
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		<title>By: MRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mooser, I love you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mooser, I love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I’m not a member of chabad, or practitioner of Lubavitch Judaism. My son is,&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

For now, anyway.  It&#039;s just a phase, I went through it myself after seeing &quot;Yentil&quot;.   But my parents wouldn&#039;t pay for a sex-change operation, or singing lessons.  
Don&#039;t worry, Richard, he&#039;ll shrink out of it. Oh whoops, I meant &quot;grow&quot;, he&#039;ll grow out of it.
But if it comes to a crisis, and you need him kidnapped and de-programmed, just give me a call.   The sex-change operation should be covered under your medical insurance. What?  You want him to be happy, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I’m not a member of chabad, or practitioner of Lubavitch Judaism. My son is,&#8221;</i></p>
<p>For now, anyway.  It&#8217;s just a phase, I went through it myself after seeing &#8220;Yentil&#8221;.   But my parents wouldn&#8217;t pay for a sex-change operation, or singing lessons.<br />
Don&#8217;t worry, Richard, he&#8217;ll shrink out of it. Oh whoops, I meant &#8220;grow&#8221;, he&#8217;ll grow out of it.<br />
But if it comes to a crisis, and you need him kidnapped and de-programmed, just give me a call.   The sex-change operation should be covered under your medical insurance. What?  You want him to be happy, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hardly a macho man, Citizen, in fact my Aunt Agatha once called me &quot;a spineless invertebrate&quot; but I did learn to live with the petty social anti-semitism I was exposed to.  Given what I have seen or heard about the treatment meted out to other perceived groups in America, I can&#039;t say there was much to complain about.  And it was pretty obvious, even to a non-achiever like me that the social anti-semitism, what there was of it, operated within a context of  Jewish favoritism or even exclusivity in some very meaningful areas. And, of course, eight days Hannukah!  It was easy to see (and I&#039;m a real sensitive guy, and I get my feelings hurt easily)  that  a stick-figure hanging from a gallows and adorned with a Jewish star (that&#039;s what I got for going out with a non-Jewish girl) or the epithet &quot;Jew-canoe&quot; for Cadillac (that&#039;s what I put that poor kid in the hospital for, but he was fine, if somewhat chastened, damn it, Jews drive Mercedes!) didn&#039;t hold a candle to castration and lynching or the social and economic discrimination darker skin gives rise to.
I would be, frankly, ashamed to look at it any other way.

I know, Citizen, that anti-Semitism will never hold a candle to the discrimination white men and fathers and Christians put up with, but try to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hardly a macho man, Citizen, in fact my Aunt Agatha once called me &#8220;a spineless invertebrate&#8221; but I did learn to live with the petty social anti-semitism I was exposed to.  Given what I have seen or heard about the treatment meted out to other perceived groups in America, I can&#8217;t say there was much to complain about.  And it was pretty obvious, even to a non-achiever like me that the social anti-semitism, what there was of it, operated within a context of  Jewish favoritism or even exclusivity in some very meaningful areas. And, of course, eight days Hannukah!  It was easy to see (and I&#8217;m a real sensitive guy, and I get my feelings hurt easily)  that  a stick-figure hanging from a gallows and adorned with a Jewish star (that&#8217;s what I got for going out with a non-Jewish girl) or the epithet &#8220;Jew-canoe&#8221; for Cadillac (that&#8217;s what I put that poor kid in the hospital for, but he was fine, if somewhat chastened, damn it, Jews drive Mercedes!) didn&#8217;t hold a candle to castration and lynching or the social and economic discrimination darker skin gives rise to.<br />
I would be, frankly, ashamed to look at it any other way.</p>
<p>I know, Citizen, that anti-Semitism will never hold a candle to the discrimination white men and fathers and Christians put up with, but try to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: VR</title>
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		<dc:creator>VR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better even than just the quote - 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkp8fNODegU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IT&#039;S OVER&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better even than just the quote &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkp8fNODegU" rel="nofollow">IT&#8217;S OVER</a></p>
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		<title>By: Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno; it seems pretty creepy to not say a neighborly hello to a stranger passing you by in the street because otherwise you wouldn&#039;t be following G-D&#039;s orders, not to mention being completely unaware that a mowed lawn and snow-shoveled sidewalk and drive are the devil&#039;s sign. And let&#039;s not forget that one always  needs to drive the hardest bargain in monetary negotiations, especially if the other guy you are bargaining with is an honest farmer like from 
Mayberry, USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno; it seems pretty creepy to not say a neighborly hello to a stranger passing you by in the street because otherwise you wouldn&#8217;t be following G-D&#8217;s orders, not to mention being completely unaware that a mowed lawn and snow-shoveled sidewalk and drive are the devil&#8217;s sign. And let&#8217;s not forget that one always  needs to drive the hardest bargain in monetary negotiations, especially if the other guy you are bargaining with is an honest farmer like from<br />
Mayberry, USA.</p>
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