Your response to me addresses many issues I did not raise; did I accuse you of being a self-hating Jew?

You might want to read the post again. In part of it I addressed tree and in the rest I spoke in general about others on this website. It was not directed at you.

As for the distinction between “theory and practice” in regard to human rights, I would strongly suggest that to the person whose human rights are violated…the fact that “in theory those rights are protected”, is quite irrelevant.

I disagree. You ignore my point entirely regarding the separate judicial system in the occupied territories and focus instead on this theory vs. practice issue. Furthermore, the blacks in the south were able to change the system because their calls for equality had historical and foundational basis. There is a great difference between the principles on which the US was founded and the Zionist principles on which Israel was founded.

I was initially simply trying to point out that there are Israelis who do in fact seek coexistence with Arabs. That’s it.

That fact is pretty obvious. The point I’d like to make, however, is that the group of Israelis in questions is not only small, but it is marginalized and persecuted within Israel. So to focus on that group in an attempt to look-at-the-glass-half-full, as you seem to imply, is to live in denial of the overall cesspool.

In conclusion, I do hope that Zionism will be erased for good and that it will disappear forever, along with its symbols and manifestations the same way the Third Reich has been erased. Meanwhile, the Jews of a modern Israel (or whatever name it will have) like the Germans of modern Germany will one day be embarrassed of that dark chapter of their history and seek to join the 21st century along with its safeguards of human dignity and equality.

With all due respect, and I mean that sincerely, perhaps you need to “get a grip”.

You suggest I am a troll? And not too many months ago, Richard Wittyy basicallly accused me of being an anti-semitic racist?

Your response to me addresses many issues I did not raise; did I accuse you of being a self-hating Jew? I am no fan of Israel’s treatment of Palestinians; I find it morally appalling.

In general, your response is directed at “so many things I did not say”, it confirms by basic feeling about this issue. When it comes toI srael…most people seem to lose the capacity to think critically.

As for the distinction between “theory and practice” in regard to human rights, I would strongly suggest that to the person whose human rights are violated…the fact that “in theory those rights are protected”, is quite irrelevant. Join an online Native American discussion group, and find out for yourself how delighted they are with “their theoretical human rights”.

I was initially simply trying to point out that there are Israelis who do in fact seek coexistence with Arabs. That’s it. How on earth do you read so much else into it?

Look at all that has happened and it’s only getting worse. People shouldn’t make these lofty statements. Stay focused, ignore the asinine trolls (Dick Witty, yonira, etc.) and fight for the Palestinians.

Article 18 – appears at first glance noble, but deeper reflection, it violative of spiritual morality… In the ancient scriptures, the Almighty only requires one our of seven days for rest and communal worship. The rest are considered working days….
Even the ancient scripture connotes – ‘there is time for every thing…’ time to work, time to rest, time to pray, and time to worship…Let the worship be held solemnly as proper in temples or centers of worship. But let it not be used to violate the rights of others, their right to work, their pursuit of personal time…their right to choose to worship or not to worship. It was also written that where the Spirit of the Lord, there is Liberty!
The statement – ‘to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance’ – is potentially offensive or violative to the norms of every independent country… It is solely favorable to one’s personal interest like the bus driver who stopped suddenly a public conveyance and went down t0 the middle of the road and do personal praying. But by depriving the passengers each of their individual times is likewise inimical and bigotry before one’s conscience to violate by obstructing the rest of the passengers or the public of their rights to individual pursuits or decisions. Was it not written? ‘whatever you have done to the least of my bretheren you have done it unto me’…
The decision of Education Ministry of Israel to refuse such articles that gives the privelege to others to abuse another man’s or community, or country’s freedom and right to self determinaition is just, fair, and right…

…and if Avi’s info on Israeli high school Arabic is correct, and I have no reason to believe he not correct….

I would hope that my own personal experience is good enough. There are certainly others on this website (not the usual trolls) who can correct any information I post and I welcome them to scrutinize whatever I post.

Now, the following is not directed at you, tree, at all, but do those who accuse me and others of not telling the truth or not being accurate about the descriptions I or others provide really think that we’re doing it out of malice and hatred?

Why?? What insidious motive could I or others have? But, I guess I’m just a self hating Israel hater Jew, even though I’m Jewish-by-association like Morgan Elzey.