I think Matthews feels Helen Thomas’s pain

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Chris Matthews had to talk about Helen Thomas tonight, but he didn’t say much. It was all over the Nightly News, but he didn’t say anything besides the fact that she had been covering the White House since 1960 and had apologized on her website. As he described her offense against "Israel" (not against the Jews), he seemed unusually contained.

I wondered if Matthews isn’t secretly angry about the orthodoxy that was enforced.

Helen Thomas castigated American occupations and was a thorn in George Bush’s side, and was celebrated for it. But when she castigated Israel’s "occupation," she’s history.(Richard Greener makes the point at Huffpo, pretty well).

Matthews studies history. He knows that Truman pushed for a Jewish state– because of Jewish refugees in Europe, detained for years. He knows that Partition resulted in 750,000 Palestinian refugees, whom the world has ignored for 62 years. He knows that is why the ethnic cleansing of Palestine so long ago still festers in the souls of Arab-Americans–and also in the soul of Israel.

Then Peter Beinart came on to talk politics and Matthews didn’t ask him a word about his bombshell NYRB piece on the failure of the American Jewish leadership.

Because Beinart’s piece really is inside baseball. And maybe the New York Times Magazine was right to pass on the piece. It’s an entre-nous thing, entre-Jew. A fight among American Zionists.

But Chris, it’s your job to take something entre-nous and show us how it affects the rest of us. There’s only one way to do that: talk about the effect of the Israel lobby on U.S. policy, going back to Truman, when the State Department said prophetically, A Jewish state will only be established by force.  

Talk about why Helen Thomas is nursing 62-year-old pain.

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  1. Psychopathic god
    June 7, 2010, 9:37 pm

    I think Matthewsfill in the blank feels Helen Thomas’s pain

    I think that was the point.

  2. Psychopathic god
    June 7, 2010, 9:41 pm

    Neither Matthews nor any other journalist, particularly a non-Jewish journalist, dares enter the conversation, Phil. The ziolobby will hang her head on a bloody pike outside the dressing room or inside the laptop of any journalist who does not toe the party line.

  3. spuxx
    June 7, 2010, 10:00 pm

    “When asked about a Palestinian state, Gov. Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives”
    – Mike Huckabee, HuckabeePresidential Candidate and Fox Television Host.

    • pabelmont
      June 8, 2010, 5:43 am

      Hey, a great idea. Heard it before. Jews oppressed in Germany, etc., need a home. Give them one (they need it, deserve it) but somewhere else, somewhere WHERE THE OPPRESSORS WILL NOT BE INCONVENIENCED.

      Helen Thomas thought the Israeli Jews could/should return to their homes. Bet she thought the Palestinians (1948 refugees) should do so as well.

      Status quo ante anybody?

  4. Bruce Wilson
    June 7, 2010, 10:33 pm

    The issue of the ‘enforced orthodoxy’ concerning Helen Thomas’ controversial statement, and Peter Beinart’s observations, come to a head here – watch what the evangelist in this video footage, a longtime friend and ally of the Prime Minister, broadcasts to America and the world:

    link to vimeo.com

    Towards the end of this video clip you will hear a theory also popularized in the notorious Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda film, “The Eternal Jew,” claiming that Rothschilds control the world.

    This is the tip of the iceberg.

  5. Bruce Wilson
    June 7, 2010, 10:36 pm

    [Link URL correction]

    The issue of the ‘enforced orthodoxy’ concerning Helen Thomas’ controversial statement, and Peter Beinart’s observations, come to a head here – watch what the evangelist in this video footage, a longtime friend and ally of the Prime Minister, broadcasts to America and the world:

    link to vimeo.com

    Towards the end of this video clip you will hear a theory also popularized in the notorious Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda film, “The Eternal Jew,” claiming that Rothschilds control the world.

    This is the tip of the iceberg.

  6. Homer
    June 7, 2010, 11:13 pm

    “Talk about why Helen Thomas is nursing 62-year-old pain.”

    Helen Thomas’ pain doesn’t matter in America because she doesn’t qualify: She’s not Jewish. She was entrapped and exploited – as an old, tired woman – by a Jewish rabbi who would not be capable of feeling any moral pain I could recognize.

    “Because Beinart’s piece really is inside baseball. And maybe the New York Times Magazine was right to pass on the piece. It’s an entre-nous thing, entre-Jew. A fight among American Zionists.”

    And the New York Review of Books, which published Beinart’s piece, is itself “an entre-nous thing, entre-Jew.” I read it, but I often feel like an outsider looking in on an exclusive group of inbred intellectuals and pseudo-intellectuals whose organizing principle is Jewish elitism borne of isolation from most of America. I know this is not an entirely accurate assessment (and especially does not apply to people like Tony Judt or Henry Siegman) but after decades of watching Jews monopolize the discourse in America I now notice that my own judgments about their activities have begun in part to be colored irrationally by resentments that until lately I was scarcely conscious of.

  7. Avi
    June 8, 2010, 12:16 am

    Phil’s assertion here regarding Mathews is a reasonable possibility. Perhaps Mathews woke up from his Ziocane induced slumber in the last few days. But, what would cause him to suddenly wake up when just a few days ago he was carrying The Lobby’s water?

    • Justice Please
      June 8, 2010, 2:45 am

      I also feel that Phil thinks too highly of Matthews. Phil, how often does Chris have to show utter ignorance in regards to I-P for you to stop suspecting him of being secretly one of the good guys? It’s like your optimism with Obama.

      Matthews could at least do what Olbermann did, interviewing George Peck. Or what Jon Steward did, pointing out how cruel Krauthammer is for insisting on “there is no suffering in Gaza”.

      • Citizen
        June 8, 2010, 7:29 am

        You make a lot of sense, JP. I was amazed Olbermann interviewed Peck and let him have his say sans interruption. Who else did anything like that on cable TV news?

      • Justice Please
        June 8, 2010, 3:46 pm

        Thanks, Citizen.

        Haven’t seen Olberman since the middle of Bush jr.’s second term I think, but he handled Peck very respectfully I think, and not constantly interjected with the IDF talking points as most news anchors/interviewers did. And when Peck was done giving his thoughts, Olbermann asked this question about “why is it that when you discuss I-P in America, there is only black and white?” – This could show Keiths disgust with the current state of discussion (or lack thereof in the US MSM) and maybe if he reads some of the even better journalists like Juan Cole or sources like the Independent, he might figure out that it’s not just “he said she said/2 extreme views”, but most of Israels critics being more or less right in what they say. Imagine he gets to see one of Blumenthals videos!

        That said, I know that Olbermann, whilst being damn near perfect regarding Bush and sometimes the corrupt Democrat leadership, he was also too silent re I/P. So while his piece with Peck was very good, it would also be too optimistic to call him a hero on the issue as a whole, if you view his whole track record (or, again, lack thereof).

  8. radii
    June 8, 2010, 3:32 am

    Matthews from time-to-time ventured to talk about the israeli lobby after 9/11 but in the past several weeks he seems clearly to have been neutered – how it was done and by whom? Who knows. The MSM in the US is presently commanded to be on-script.

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