Comments on: My heart wanted to ask her: What will it take for Jews to say, Enough! http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html The War of Ideas in the Middle East Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: mjhw http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-201850 mjhw Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:27:31 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-201850 Thank you, Tema, for this real-time account of the terrible experience we have all suffered, of being dragged into the terrible cycle of anger and resentment that has propagated this conflict for sixty years. It isn't easy to experience and as you say, it's shaming to recall. But we need clear accounts like yours to remind us that such exchanges never move us toward our goal. The ability of non-violent resisters like you to carry the issue to a higher level has made a difference, and will make a bigger one. With thanks for all you do, Heidi Wilson Orford, NH Thank you, Tema, for this real-time account of the terrible experience we have all suffered, of being dragged into the terrible cycle of anger and resentment that has propagated this conflict for sixty years. It isn’t easy to experience and as you say, it’s shaming to recall. But we need clear accounts like yours to remind us that such exchanges never move us toward our goal. The ability of non-violent resisters like you to carry the issue to a higher level has made a difference, and will make a bigger one.
With thanks for all you do,
Heidi Wilson
Orford, NH

]]> By: Psychopathic god http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200514 Psychopathic god Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:01:43 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200514 CA Rep Sherman wants American participants in flotilla charged with terror crimes. sputter sputter sputter! no, make that, god damn it! ISRAEL KILLS AN AMERICAN and Americans are the terrorists? in what alternate universe? Why the f*&%k should Americans be accused of something that offends Israel? Israel is NOT America. CA Rep Sherman wants American participants in flotilla charged with terror crimes.

sputter sputter sputter! no, make that, god damn it! ISRAEL KILLS AN AMERICAN and Americans are the terrorists? in what alternate universe?

Why the f*&%k should Americans be accused of something that offends Israel? Israel is NOT America.

]]> By: Psychopathic god http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200507 Psychopathic god Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:51:06 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200507 I guess I have to let go of a petty hurt. About 2 years ago our peace group was really upset with a program UJF had presented in our community. We decided the best way to deal with our anger was to defuse it -- the Ben & Jerry philosophy: the best way to deal with an enemy is to make him a friend (hey, don't laugh if it's not so intellectual; we're not jewish). We decided to have a potluck dinner -- Jewish, Muslim, Christian, at somebody's home, not a public place -- warm, homey home. We drew up a guest list, passed around the list that says who will bring what so we wouldn't end up with too much Lutheran jello and not enough Muslim humus. We jiggered the schedule so the maximum number of people could attend. We called the moderate rabbi we thought would be most receptive to our plan and extended the invitation. He responded with insults and derogatory remarks. We were stunned. As the rest of the group got the news, one by one schedule conflicts were discovered, food issues made participation impossible, and a flurry of "it's a good idea but I can't attend" replaced earlier, "I'll be there with bells on." Maybe we need to try again. and again and again I guess I have to let go of a petty hurt.
About 2 years ago our peace group was really upset with a program UJF had presented in our community. We decided the best way to deal with our anger was to defuse it — the Ben & Jerry philosophy: the best way to deal with an enemy is to make him a friend (hey, don’t laugh if it’s not so intellectual; we’re not jewish).

We decided to have a potluck dinner — Jewish, Muslim, Christian, at somebody’s home, not a public place — warm, homey home. We drew up a guest list, passed around the list that says who will bring what so we wouldn’t end up with too much Lutheran jello and not enough Muslim humus. We jiggered the schedule so the maximum number of people could attend.
We called the moderate rabbi we thought would be most receptive to our plan and extended the invitation. He responded with insults and derogatory remarks. We were stunned.
As the rest of the group got the news, one by one schedule conflicts were discovered, food issues made participation impossible, and a flurry of “it’s a good idea but I can’t attend” replaced earlier, “I’ll be there with bells on.”
Maybe we need to try again.
and again
and again

]]> By: Judy http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200493 Judy Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:31:56 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200493 Just to clarify, I am not advocating terrorism as resistance, but rather nonviolent resistance expressed by the Flotilla, BDS, etc. Just to clarify, I am not advocating terrorism as resistance, but rather nonviolent resistance expressed by the Flotilla, BDS, etc.

]]> By: Judy http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200483 Judy Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:14:29 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200483 Thanks. I will go check it out! Thanks. I will go check it out!

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200281 Citizen Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:25:24 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200281 Meanwhile, e.g., Fox News has responded to pleas to show more context than the Israeli navy's tape of activists beating Israeli commandoes with chairs and boat rail poles--by airing Israeli audio tapes of the boat people saying things to the Israeli navy like, "Go back to Auschwitz." Meanwhile, e.g., Fox News has responded to pleas to show more context than the
Israeli navy’s tape of activists beating Israeli commandoes with chairs and boat rail poles–by airing Israeli audio tapes of the boat people saying things to the Israeli navy like, “Go back to Auschwitz.”

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200277 Citizen Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:15:26 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200277 I mean, pick up where the brothers left off. I mean, pick up where the brothers left off.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200276 Citizen Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:14:42 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200276 Would an American joint-Jewish-Gentile grass roots movement to pick up where the two murdered Kennedy brothers be of use, asking our government to declare AIPAC to register as a foreign agent, and asking for Israel to fully participate in international nuclear curbs? Would an American joint-Jewish-Gentile grass roots movement to
pick up where the two murdered Kennedy brothers be of use, asking
our government to declare AIPAC to register as a foreign agent, and asking for Israel to fully participate in international nuclear curbs?

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200273 Citizen Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:08:41 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200273 Would a complex mentality, such a person argue that nothing short of gassing en masse is worth pondering regarding what one rubber-stamps? Why not just lobotomize history itself? And psychology and culture too. Would a complex mentality, such a person argue that nothing short of gassing en masse is worth pondering regarding what one rubber-stamps?
Why not just lobotomize history itself? And psychology and culture too.

]]> By: Citizen http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/my-heart-wanted-to-ask-her-what-will-it-take-for-jews-to-say-enough.html/comment-page-1#comment-200270 Citizen Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:04:00 +0000 http://mondoweiss.net/?p=20070#comment-200270 Yes, pabelmount; Tema Okun shows the emotional divide collapsing the bridge between the heart and the logical & compassionate mind. And yes, it is NOT just a problem for Jews; rather, nearly as especially, given American values and America's long enablement of Israel right or wrong, a problem for Gentile Americans. Yes, pabelmount; Tema Okun shows the emotional divide collapsing the bridge between the heart and the logical & compassionate mind. And yes, it is NOT just a problem for Jews; rather, nearly as especially, given American values and America’s long enablement of Israel right or wrong,
a problem for Gentile Americans.

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