UN: Two men killed on ‘Mavi Marmara’ were holding cameras when they were shot

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We’ve failed to post anything on the United Nations Human Rights Council’s report issued three days ago on the Israeli raid on the Gaza flotilla last May that found that Israel had committed grave violations of human rights law and international humanitarian law. But big deal we’re late–the mainstream media have largely ignored the report.

I have to read the report through. But here’s the UN link. I see that the report describes the operation as disproportionate, with “unnecessary and incredible” violence, and “an unacceptable level of brutality.”

And glancing at the narrative, the report finds that two of the 9 men killed in the raid, including American Furkan Dogan, were holding cameras and using them to film the Israeli invaders when they were shot. Additionally– despite the sticks and catapults that some passengers used on the commandos– the four people killed on the lower, bridge deck were not posing any physical threat to the raiders, who were then on the top deck, and in fact were trying to get out of the way.

Also notice the description of Gaza conditions as an unacceptable disgrace in the 21st century and the poetical language about Jewish victimhood (as I read it anyway) near the end– Jews must find the strength to pluck from their memory rooted sorrows. Excerpts:

The Mission does not find it plausible that soldiers were holding their weapons and firing as they descended on the rope [from the helicopter]. However, it has concluded that live ammunition was used from the helicopter onto the top deck prior to the descent of the soldiers…. Further, the Mission finds that the Israeli accounts so inconsistent and contradictory with regard to evidence of alleged firearms injuries to Israeli soldiers that it has to reject it..

At least one of those killed [on the top deck, American Furkan Dogan] was using a video camera and not involved in any of the fighting with the soldiers….

Israeli soldiers fired live ammunition both from the top deck at passengers on the bridge deck below and after they had moved down to the bridge deck. At least four passengers were killed,73 and at least nine injured (five with firearms injuries) during this phase. None of the four passengers who were killed, including a photographer who at the time of being shot was engaged in taking photographs [Cevdet Kiliclar] and was shot by an Israeli soldier positioned on the top deck above, posed any threat to the Israeli forces. There was considerable live fire from Israeli soldiers on the top deck and a number of passengers were injured or killed whilst trying to take refuge inside the door or assisting other to do so…

The Mission is not alone in finding that a deplorable situation exists in Gaza. It has been characterized as ‘unsustainable’. This is totally intolerable and unacceptable in the 21st Century. It is amazing that anyone could characterise the condition of the people there as satisfying the most basic of acceptable standards. The parties and the international community are urged to find the solution that will address all legitimate security concern of
both Israel and the people of Palestine both of whom are equally entitled to “their place under the heavens”. The apparent dichotomy in this case between the competing right of security and the right to a decent living can only be resolved if old antagonisms are subordinated to a sense of justice and fair play. One has to find the strength to pluck from the memory rooted sorrows and to move on….

It is hoped that there will be swift action by the Government of Israel. This will go a long way to reversing the regrettable reputation which that country has for impunity and intransigence in international affairs.

40 Responses

  1. occupyresist
    September 25, 2010, 2:03 pm

    But big deal we’re late–the mainstream media have largely ignored the report.

    And here we thought you and Adam were Batman and Superman.

  2. occupyresist
    September 25, 2010, 2:19 pm

    …the four people killed on the lower, bridge deck were not posing any physical threat to the raiders, who were then on the top deck, and in fact were trying to get out of the way.

    But I thought they were HAMAS-luvin’, Hate-filled, pipe-‘n-knife-wieldin’, Terrorists?

  3. potsherd
    September 25, 2010, 2:37 pm

    Cameras are the biggest threat to the IDF – they expose the truth of their crimes.

    • James Bradley
      September 25, 2010, 3:20 pm


      Camera’s, social media, the Internet, and growing general awareness are tearing the Israeli Propaganda machine apart.

      This latest Phone Application from Americans for Peace Now allows anyone with a smart phone the ability to view Israeli settlement density in the West Bank.

      link to wired.com

      Just looking at the map, it becomes clear immediately that a 2 state solution is impossible.

      I still remember my first trip to Palestine, and not understanding when Israel ended and the West Bank began. The entire West Bank felt like it was fully incorporated into Israel, with the only difference between the West Bank and 1948 Israel being that the West Bank had a large population of people living at gunpoint, while another lived in San Diego style suburbs with manicured lawns and swimming pools.

    • Mohammad Alsaafin
      September 25, 2010, 7:32 pm

      Such a concise statement.

  4. annie
    September 25, 2010, 2:54 pm

    truth is the biggest threat for israel. truth deligitimizes israel.

    • Pamela Olson
      September 26, 2010, 8:28 pm

      Reality has a well-known anti-Israeli-government bias.

      (To paraphrase Stephen Colbert)

  5. MRW
    September 25, 2010, 3:02 pm

    I skimmed this on the strength of the clips you provided above. This is one report I am going to read in its entirety. The amount of telling minute detail is fascinating, and shows the care these organizers of the flotilla were taking: “On the Eleftheri Mesogios, it was also decided that water hoses could be misconstrued as weapons and hence should not be used.”

    But none of them thought the Israelis would arrive by helicopter and murder them in cold blood, they never thought they would have to defend against a possible boarding. (pg. 25)

  6. Shingo
    September 25, 2010, 3:08 pm

    Witty wil dismiss this report, as did with the Goldstone report and will similarly refuse to read it.

  7. tree
    September 25, 2010, 3:29 pm

    I read the report several days ago. What’s apparent to me is that the IDF forces aboard tthe flotilla acted in the same manner that they act towards the Palestinians. There were summary execution on board the ship. Furkan Dogan was killed this way, as were others. There was mistreatment and torture of prisoners, there were acts of violence committed by the IDF after the ships passengers were on solid ground in Israeli custody. There was intentional destruction of property.

    I don’t think that the IDF is capable of acting like a professional army anymore. Decades of mistreatment of the Palestinians has left them incapable of executing a mission of interception without using “unnecessary and incredible” violence, and “an unacceptable level of brutality.”

    • Sumud
      September 26, 2010, 12:14 am

      Decades of mistreatment of the Palestinians has left them incapable of executing a mission of interception without using “unnecessary and incredible” violence, and “an unacceptable level of brutality.”

      That, and the insane whole-worlds-out-to-get-you-jew indoctrination Yoav Shamir documented in ‘Defamation’, a must-watch, for those who haven’t seen it, and available to view online:

      link to pulsemedia.org

      I recall Ken O’Keefe saying how terrified the 3 captured Israeli soldiers were on the Mavi Marmara, that they probably thought they were going meet a very grisly end, which they did not. There’s 3 components to this that I see:
      1. The Defamation-style indoctrination. Many Israelis believe the flotilla really was full of jew-hating killers, not an international coalition of peace activists, and accompanying journalists.
      2. The knowledge that their colleagues (snipers in helicopters) had killed several on the MM just before they fast-roped down onto the deck.
      3 What you said tree: at a deeper level, fear that what they have done to Palestinians will be done to them.

    • Sumud
      September 26, 2010, 12:24 am

      This is the Ken O’Keefe interview for those interested (he did a few after the flotilla, I’m reasonably sure this is the one where he talks about the soldiers). It’s audio, about 90 minutes, and also goes into his anti-war action in pre-invasion Iraq. He’s a remarkable guy.

      link to theuglytruth.podbean.com

      Also available as a Pulse Media podcast. Just search for ‘Ken O’Keefe’ within your podcast software (iTunes for me).

    • Colin Murray
      September 27, 2010, 12:36 pm

      @ tree September 25, 2010 at 3:29 pm
      I don’t think that the IDF is capable of acting like a professional army anymore.

      The IDF ground force

      In Beit Suhur outside Bethlehem, I have seen IDF troops shoot at Palestinian Christian women hanging out laundry in their gardens. This was done with tank coaxial machine guns from within a bermed up dirt fort a couple of hundred yards away, and evidently just for the fun of it. In Bethlehem a lieutenant told me that he would have had his men shoot me in the street during a demonstration that I happened to get caught in, but that he had not because he thought I might not be a Palestinian and that if I were not the incident would have caused him some trouble. I have seen a lot of things like that.

  8. occupyresist
    September 25, 2010, 4:37 pm

    “All Aboard the Mavi Marmara”


    ….tell the children of Jerusalem, you are not alone.

  9. Avi
    September 25, 2010, 5:28 pm

    It is deplorable enough that shots were fired by soldiers from the helicopter hovering over the deck of the Mavi Marmara prior to any soldiers descending onto the deck and coming in contact with the passengers.

    This is how Israel treats unarmed civilians in international waters.

    Is it surprising then, that innocent Palestinian civilians are targeted on a daily basis? Is it surprising that within the first few hours of the Israeli attack on Gaza in late 2008/early 2009 had killed more than 300 civilians? No. I’m not surprised. I’m merely saddened that such brutality goes on unquestioned and unchecked by the world’s self-described moralists.

  10. justicewillprevail
    September 25, 2010, 5:42 pm

    Complete disgrace, extraordinary how the media can ignore what doesn’t fit their cosy little propaganda-based worldview. When will the ‘international community’ start standing up to these bullies, inditing them and threatening to arrest their leaders, who are guilty of international and war crimes, if they set foot in their countries? As for Israel claiming, as they did recently, that they adhere to international law, how stupid do they think we are? Apparently they can claim black is white, and the US media prints it approvingly, while US senators rush to congratulate them and insist that America upholds Israel’s right to call black white.

  11. NormanF
    September 25, 2010, 8:43 pm

    A biased report from a kangaroo court that condemned Israel in advance and made no pretense of an impartial fact-finding.

    The truth is when IDF soldiers were attacked, the occupants of the Mavi Marmara lost their status as non-combatants. Their resistance was put down with force. This is legitimate under international law and no other army in the world would have reacted any differently.

    Those who seek to beat and kill Jews deserve what they get. And the days when Jews could be beaten and killed with impunity are never going to return again whether the UN likes it or not.

    Deal with it!

    • potsherd
      September 25, 2010, 9:19 pm

      Guess who hasn’t read the report.

    • Bumblebye
      September 25, 2010, 9:26 pm

      Unlike the kangaroo court in Israel which decided to treat the flotilla as a hostile armed incursion – even while many miles from Israeli territory – despite several inspections by internationally recognized authorities. That bunch of bouncing kangaroos caused the deaths and injuries.

      IDF sokdiers met RESISTANCE when they forcibly (hostile & armed) and piratically boarded ships in international waters. Nothing legietimate occurred on that basis.

      They did not “seek to beat and kill Jews”, they sought to defend themselves and their cargo.

      Your version of events is utterly twisted and completely corrupts the facts.

    • piotr
      September 25, 2010, 10:14 pm

      Impartial observers admit that the best proof that someone is a terrorist is if that individual is killed by IDF. It was utterly appalling that Turkish government did not apologize for having its citizens killed.

      I would suggest, however, that NormanF should express himself more clearly. “Those who seek to beat and kill Jews”: does it mean those who seek to beat and those who seek to kill, or those who seek both? Suppose that a Jew is mugged and beaten in NYC. Do inhabitants loose their status as non-combatants? Or just one borough? Or suppose that a Jew enters a gay bar somewhere in NYC with the aim of throwing all sinners out of the premises and gets beaten. How large geographic area would loose non-combatant status?

      Or suppose that an inhabitant of Tel-Aviv enters a gay bar and actually shoots a sinner. How large part of Tel-Aviv should loose non-combatant status?

      However, one should point out that Jews can be beaten up with impunity under correct circumstances, as it was in the case of Emily Henochowicz. So I would avoid making sweeping generalization.

    • Antidote
      September 25, 2010, 10:31 pm

      “a kangaroo court that condemned Israel in advance and made no pretense of an impartial fact-finding”

      Well, we’ll just have to wait for the result of Israel’s self-investigation to find out the truth. What’s taking so long? Right, one of the committee members suddenly and unexpectedly died. He was only 93. Did something upset him? Did they show him the video with the fake ‘go back to Auschwitz’ and ‘remember 9/11″ insert?

      • justicewillprevail
        September 26, 2010, 6:01 am

        Correction, NormanF: Anybody who ‘seeks to beat and kill’ innocent human beings who happen not to belong to the preferred cultural grouping of the vigilantes deserves what they get. Yes, I know it is a shock, but international law applies to Israeli vigilantes as well. There is no international law which legitimises unprovoked violence, theft and murder. Vaguely saying there is doesn’t make it so. And as for those seeking to beat Jews, I wonder what will happen in further aid convoys when the aid workers are Jewish? Will the IDF murder them too?

      • talknic
        September 26, 2010, 6:46 am

        Shabtai Rosen was likely picked for the Israeli panel because of his known frailty. (he needed help to get to his seat at the panel).

        Ironically he was one of the few folk Israel could’ve picked for the panel who recognized where Israel’s true Sovereign territories lay.

        Alas that was not his brief “(a) Shortly after the signing of the Israel-Egyptian agreement, early in March. 1949, Israeli forces advanced south to the littoral into the area allocated to the Jewish State: in General Assembly resolution l8l (II) of 29 November 1947“

    • RoHa
      September 26, 2010, 1:05 am

      “A biased report”

      Any evidence to support your claim of bias?

      ” a kangaroo court that condemned Israel in advance”

      Any evidence for this?

      ” no pretense of an impartial fact-finding.”

      Your support for this claim?

    • Shingo
      September 26, 2010, 5:28 am

      “A biased report from a kangaroo court that condemned Israel in advance and made no pretense of an impartial fact-finding.”

      Right NormanF, facts that were contained for example in all the video equipment and electronic hardware the IDF confiscated and has refused to return.

      “The truth is when IDF soldiers were attacked, the occupants of the Mavi Marmara lost their status as non-combatants. ”

      The truth is that the IDF soldiers attacked when they landed on those boats in international waters and shot at those boats before even setting foot on them.

      “This is legitimate under international law and no other army in the world would have reacted any differently.”

      False. No other army in the world has boarded ships in international waters without UN authorization, so Israel was violating international law.

      “Those who seek to beat and kill Jews deserve what they get. And the days when Jews could be beaten and killed with impunity are never going to return again whether the UN likes it or not.”

      Right so instead, we have the days of Israel beating and killed with impunity.

      This report is entirely consistent with the Goldstone Report, which Israel were never able to refute. Israel is a criminal terrorist state.

      Deal with it.

    • Shingo
      September 26, 2010, 5:32 am

      “A biased report from a kangaroo court that condemned Israel in advance and made no pretense of an impartial fact-finding.”

      Israel refused to allow any of it’s IDF members from giving testimony. As with the Goldstone Report, Israel refused to participate in the investigation, and so when the report is published, the usual suspects complain that Israel were not included in the investigation.

      It’s a tried and worn out routine that is past it’s used by date.

    • talknic
      September 26, 2010, 6:55 am

      NormanF September 25, 2010 at 8:43 pm

      “Those who seek to beat and kill Jews”

      Ah yes, they climbed UP the rappelling silks and into the helicopters. AMAZING!!

      I do believe you’ll say anything no matter how absurd

      • Shingo
        September 26, 2010, 3:46 pm

        “I do believe you’ll say anything no matter how absurd”

        Witty must have given him private lessons.

    • MRW
      September 26, 2010, 7:37 am


      From Craig Murray, Craig Murray is a former British Ambassador. He is also a former Head of the Maritime Section of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. He negotiated the UK’s current maritime boundaries with Ireland, Denmark (Faeroes), Belgium and France, and boundaries of the Channel Islands, Turks and Caicos and British Virgin Islands. He was alternate Head of the UK Delegation to the UN Preparatory Commission on the Law of the Sea.

      Every comments thread on every internet site on the world which has discussed the Israeli naval murders, has been inundated by organised ZIonist commenters stating that the Israeli action was legal under the San Remo Manual of International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea.

      They ignore those parts of San Remo that specifically state that it is illegal to enforce a general blockade on an entire population. But even apart from that, San Remo simply does not apply.

      The manual relates specifically to legal practice in time of war. With whom is Israel at war?

      There is no war.

      Israeli apologists have gone on to say they are in a state of armed conflict with Gaza.

      Really? In that case, why do we continually hear Israeli complaints about rockets fired from Gaza into Israel? If it is the formal Israeli position that it is in a state of armed conflict with Gaza, then Gaza has every right to attack Israel with rockets.

      But in fact, plainly to the whole world, the nature and frequency of Israeli complaints about rocket attacks gives evidence that Israel does not in fact believe that a situation of armed conflict exists.

      Secondly, if Israel wishes to claim it is in a state of armed conflict with Gaza, then it must treat all of its Gazan prisoners as prisoners of war entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention. If you are in a formal state of armed conflict, you cannot categorise your opponents as terrorists.

      But again, it is plain for the world to see from its treatment and description of Gazan prisoners that it does not consider itself to be in a formal position of armed conflict.

      Israel is seeking to pick and choose which bits of law applicable to armed conflict it applies, by accepting or not accepting it is in armed conflcit depending on the expediency of the moment.

      • tree
        September 26, 2010, 1:45 pm

        Thanks for this bit of information, MRW. You always provide fascinating pieces of information here.

    • andrew r
      September 27, 2010, 4:05 am

      I read Zionist blogs where NormanF shows up. He doesn’t do these half-assed hit and run jobs there.

  12. Palmyra
    September 26, 2010, 12:19 am

    It’s a shame in this day and age that we have to wait almost half a year for ‘confirmation’ of what credible nonpartisan int’l witnesses were saying on the day an incident occured. Time is more precious in this technologically manipulated era of preformed “framed” discourse than ever before. This doesn’t just go for Gaza…it’s the infallible formula still relied upon by the world’s ruling class in nearly every gross miscarriage of justice, and will continue to be as long as they control all accessible media.

  13. demize
    September 26, 2010, 12:20 am

    Wow, Norm Finklstein sure has become belligerent. I jest, I jest. In this person’s demented mind I’m sure he believes what he is saying is justified. I believe the phenomena is known as projection. Of course there were many Jews aboard the Mavi Marmara, just not the right kind.

  14. esteban folsom
    September 26, 2010, 2:42 am

    one more time
    in his own words
    ken o’keefe :

    I said this straight to Israeli agents, probably of Mossad or Shin Bet, and I say it again now, on the morning of the attack I was directly involved in the disarming of two Israeli Commandos. This was a forcible, non-negotiable, separation of weapons from commandos who had already murdered two brothers that I had seen that day. One brother with a bullet entering dead center in his forehead, in what appeared to be an execution. I knew the commandos were murdering when I removed a 9mm pistol from one of them. I had that gun in my hands and as an ex-US Marine with training in the use of guns it was completely within my power to use that gun on the commando who may have been the murderer of one of my brothers. But that is not what I, nor any other defender of the ship did. I took that weapon away, removed the bullets, proper lead bullets, separated them from the weapon and hid the gun. I did this in the hopes that we would repel the attack and submit this weapon as evidence in a criminal trial against Israeli authorities for mass murder.
    I also helped to physically separate one commando from his assault rifle, which another brother apparently threw into the sea. I and hundreds of others know the truth that makes a mockery of the brave and moral Israeli military. We had in our full possession, three completely disarmed and helpless commandos. These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers, inside the ship and surrounded by 100 or more men. I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of God in them. They looked at us as if we were them, and I have no doubt they did not believe there was any way they would survive that day. They looked like frightened children in the face of an abusive father.
    But they did not face an enemy as ruthless as they.
    Instead the woman provided basic first aid, and ultimately they were released, battered and bruised for sure, but alive. Able to live another day. Able to feel the sun over head and the embrace of loved ones. Unlike those they murdered. Despite mourning the loss of our brothers, feeling rage towards these boys, we let them go. The Israeli prostitutes of propaganda can spew all of their disgusting bile all they wish, the commandos are the murders, we are the defenders, and yet we fought. We fought not just for our lives, not just for our cargo, not just for the people of Palestine, we fought in the name of justice and humanity. We were right to do so, in every way.

  15. lysias
    September 26, 2010, 8:27 am

    Two interesting Daily Kos threads on this report: Willful Killing – The UNHRC Gaza Flotilla Report (diary by “InAntalya”, who witnessed the flotilla departing from Antalya, and who has interviewed Furkan Dogan’s father) and “http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9/22/163531/304”>UN: IDF fired live ammunition at flotilla before boarding it .

    The usual suspects try to defend Israeli conduct in these threads, principally by attacking the UNHRC.

  16. lysias
    September 26, 2010, 8:38 am

    AFP: Back to Google News
    ‘Jewish boat to Gaza’ leaves Cyprus

    ‘Jewish boat to Gaza’ leaves Cyprus

    By Caroline-Nelly Perrot (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    FAMAGUSTA, Cyprus — A boat carrying Jewish activists from Israel, Europe and the United States on Sunday set sail from Cyprus bound for Gaza, in a bid to run Israel’s blockade of the Palestinian territory, an AFP reporter said.

    The boat, named ‘Irene’, left the port of Famagusta in the Turkish-held north of the divided eastern Mediterranean island in the early afternoon carrying eight activists, three of whom are crew members, and two journalists.

    Reuven Moskovitz, an 82-year-old passenger who survived the Nazi Holocaust, told AFP he felt duty-bound to attempt the voyage, which is expected to take around 36 hours.

    “It is a sacred duty for me, as a (Holocaust) survivor, to protest against the persecution, the oppression and the imprisonment of so many people in Gaza, including more than 800,000 children,” Moskovitz said.

    Yonatan Shapira, a former Israeli soldier and crew member on the British-flagged sailing boat, said they were not looking for a confrontation.

    “We have a policy of non-violence and non-confrontation,” he said.

    “But if the Israeli army stops the boat, we will not help them to take it to Ashdod,” he said, referring to a port in southern Israel where other blockade runners have been taken after being stopped by the navy.

    Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak has repeatedly warned that Israel will intercept any ship nearing Gaza, which is run by the Islamist movement Hamas.

    “The boat’s cargo includes symbolic aid in the form of children’s toys and musical instruments, textbooks, fishing nets for Gaza’s fishing communities and prosthetic limbs for orthopaedic medical care in Gaza’s hospitals,” said a statement from the organisers, Jews for Justice for Palestinians.

    It quoted Richard Kuper, a member of the organising group, as saying that “the Jewish Boat to Gaza is a symbolic act of protest against the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories and the siege of Gaza, and a message of solidarity to Palestinians and Israelis who seek peace and justice.

    “Israeli government policies are not supported by all Jews.” said Kuper. “We call on all governments and people around the world to speak and act against the occupation and the siege.”

    In May, Israeli forces tried to stop a six-ship flotilla heading for Gaza but the raid went badly wrong, and nine Turkish activists were killed, prompting a wave of international condemnation.

    Last week, a report by the UN Human Rights Council found there was clear evidence to back prosecutions against Israel for killing and torture when its troops stormed the lead ship, the Mavi Marmara.

    In a scathing report, it also threw out Israel’s argument that the aid activists were violent, thereby justifying the decision by Israeli soldiers to open fire.

    Israel rejected the report out of hand as “biased” and “one-sided.”

    Israel says its commandos only resorted to force after they were attacked when they rappelled onto the deck of the Mavi Marmara, but pro-Palestinian activists on board say the soldiers opened fire as soon as they landed.

    A separate inquiry into the incident has been set up by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, and several more inquiries into the raid are also being pursued by Israel and Turkey.

    • lysias
      September 26, 2010, 8:47 am

      FOCUS: Gazastreifen: Jüdisches Schiff bricht zu Mission auf [Gaza Strip: Jewish Ship Departs for Mission]:

      Gazastreifen: Jüdisches Schiff bricht zu Mission auf

      Sonntag 26.09.2010, 13:51

      Ein Schif [sic] mit jüdischen Aktivisten aus mehreren Ländern ist zu einer Fahrt in den Gazastreifen aufgebrochen. Die Gruppe auf der „Irene“ will mit ihrer symbolischen Aktion ein Zeichen gegen die Blockade des Gazastreifens setzen.

      Mit Schulsachen, Musikinstrumenten und Fischernetzen an Bord ist ein Schiff mit jüdischen Aktivisten aus Deutschland und anderen Ländern zu einer Fahrt in den Gazastreifen aufgebrochen. Das Boot unter britischer Flagge setzte am Sonntag mit seiner rund zwölfköpfigen Crew im Hafen von Famagusta in Zypern die Segel zur Überfahrt, wie eine AFP-Journalistin berichtete. An Bord der „Irene“ sind etwa zehn jüdische Aktivisten, unter anderem aus Deutschland, Israel und den USA. Organisiert wird die Fahrt unter anderem von der deutschen Organisation Jüdische Stimme für einen gerechten Frieden in Nahost.

      Ende Mai war eine Gaza-Hilfsflotte durch das israelische Militär gestürmt worden, dabei waren neun türkische Aktivisten getötet worden. Die Gruppe auf der „Irene“ will mit ihrer symbolischen Aktion ein Zeichen gegen die Blockade des Gazastreifens setzen und die Menschen in dem abgeriegelten Palästinensergebiet mit den mitgebrachten Gütern versorgen. Die Fahrt in den Gazastreifen dauert im Normalfall rund 36 Stunden.

      If the estimate of 36 hours for the voyage is correct, the “Irene” should arrive Sunday evening our time (probably Monday morning local time).

      • lysias
        September 26, 2010, 9:59 am

        I must correct my estimate, as I was thinking — erroneously — that today is Saturday. Since it’s Sunday, 36 hours means the ship arrives Monday evening our time.

      • tree
        September 26, 2010, 4:26 pm

        …as I was thinking — erroneously — that today is Saturday. Since it’s Sunday…

        I hate it when I do that and I do it too often. Where do the weekends go?

      • Antidote
        September 26, 2010, 6:15 pm

        “where do the weekends go?”


        It really is Sunday already?

        Seriously, Monday should be an interesting day in I/P. Settlement freeze expired, thousands of settlers in open defiance of Netanyahu’s call for restraint, exposing themselves as racists, religious zealots and complete morons united against a peace settlement and “Hussein Obama”

        link to ynetnews.com

        plus Holocaust survivors, victims of Palestinian violence against Israeli civilians, and other Jewish activists sailing against the Gaza blockade.

        What else?

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