Crash on the Nile– Mubarak isn’t stepping down!

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Update: Well you heard the speech. He owes it to the minds of the unborn not to step down? Now how can he trust anyone around him? This is tragic… And how many networks will be eating crow? Richard Engel’s two sources. Hmmmm.

Earlier: NBC is reporting that Mubarak will step down tonight. CNN says that CIA director Leon Panetta has said that Mubarak will resign today. Wael Ghonim has tweeted: “Mission accomplished. Thanks to all the brave young Egyptians.” Everyone should be listening to Al Jazeera English now, all of us who can’t speak Arabic, which has passed along reports that the presidency is “now vacant.” The “Supreme Council of Armed Forces,” a gov’t council minus its head, Mubarak, has come out for supporting the protesters’ demands. Can it really be true? Victory, victory. Delirium in Tahrir. Say AJE’s reporters: “The chanting has not stopped… Revolution till the end, revolution to the end.” “Within touching distance of a dream that they thought could never come true just a couple of weeks ago…”

And let’s just be clear: When NBC announced the news in a Special Report, Andrea Mitchell assured American viewers of vice president Omar Suleiman. “He is a friend to Israel.” (Jeez. Can’t anyone else in the world ever have a birthday party?)

Here is the unfolding news on Twitter:


Here are more of the latest developments:

Egypt’s Mubarak ‘may stand down’
A senior member of Egypt’s ruling party tells the BBC he is “hoping” that President Mubarak will transfer power to to his vice-president on Thursday.

Egypt army detains protesters – rights groups
CAIRO, Feb 10 (Reuters) – Egypt’s army has detained dozens of Egyptians involved in massive protests against the rule of President Hosni Mubarak and abused some of them in custody, a U.S. rights groups and Egyptian activists said on Thursday.  The army was ordered to the streets on Jan. 28 to restore order. It was welcomed by protesters as a neutral force. The army said it would protect protesters from Mubarak supporters who have attacked them but also asked them to return home.

Egyptian army ‘torturing’ prisoners
Human rights groups allege that pro-democracy protesters have been detained or tortured in an “organised campaign”.

Four killed in Egypt desert clash with police
CAIRO, Feb 9 (Reuters) – Four people were killed and several suffered gunshot wounds in clashes between security forces and about 3,000 protesters in a western province of Egypt, the state news agency and security sources said on Wednesday.  The clashes in New Valley, a province that includes an oasis in Egypt’s western desert, erupted on Tuesday and continued into Wednesday, according to the security sources.

Five dead, 100 wounded in south Egypt clash: Official
CAIRO – AT LEAST five people were killed and around 100 wounded in two days of clashes between police and demonstrators in a town in southern Egypt’s New Valley region, medics told AFP on Wednesday.  Earlier, a security official had confirmed three dead. Police fired live rounds on Tuesday when local people rioted in the oasis town of Kharga, more than 400km south of Cairo, the security official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Scores were wounded and three people died of their injuries on Wednesday.

Egyptians mourn uprising dead
Residents count the cost of ongoing protests and mourn those who died in the clashes.

Police use live ammunition against protesters in Kharga

Revolutionary Justice: Egyptian police car runs over protesters, protesters flip it over, set it on fire.

Resisting Mubarak’s Thugs

28 hours in the dark heart of Egypt’s torture machine
A blindfolded Robert Tait could only listen as fellow captives were electrocuted and beaten by Mubarak’s security services

Egypt’s army ‘involved in detentions and torture’
Military accused by human rights campaigners of targeting hundreds of anti-government protesters

VIDEO: Concern for Egypt’s missing protesters
Human rights activists in Egypt have told the BBC that the country’s security forces have been detaining increasing numbers of people over the last fortnight, including doctors who treated the injured in Tahrir Square.

Human Rights Watch: 300 Deaths, Massive Detentions and Abuse Under Mubarak Regime Crackdown
Human Rights Watch is reporting that at least 302 people have died in Egypt since pro-Mubarak forces launched a violent response to the popular uprising last month. The group says at least 232 people have died in Cairo, 52 in Alexandria, and 18 in Suez, but warns the actual death toll could be far higher. We speak with Human Rights Watch researcher Heba Morayef, who has been monitoring the situation on the ground since the protests began.

Egyptian talks near collapse as unions back protests
Government refuses transition plan as demonstrations are joined by strikes – and vice-president’s coup ultimatum raises tensions

Egypt’s top opposition party abandons talks with Mubarak regime
Tagammu becomes first party to announce withdrawal from negotiations; Muslim Brotherhood has criticized the talks, but expressed no intention about eschewing talks.

News Update: Deadlock in Egypt
The fact that Egyptian workers are on strike across the country may be a more worrying development for the government. Behind the scenes, negotiations are under way between a committee of “wise men” and the government to agree on a transition. But despite those talks, Al Jazeera’s Ayman Mohyeldin, says the deadlock between the government and the protesters looks set to continue.

Egypt crisis: Doubts rise over Omar Suleiman’s handling of situation
Egyptians now feel the Mubarak regime has lost the initiative as momentum shifts back to the streets

US says Egyptians’ demands unmet
White House says Hosni Mubarak’s government hasn’t met minimum threshold of what pro-democracy protesters have demanded.

US:Egypt govt must do more to meet protester demands
WASHINGTON, Feb 9 (Reuters) – The Obama administration said on Wednesday Egypt’s government must do more to meet the demands of protesters in the country’s streets.  “What you see happening on the streets of Cairo is not all that surprising when you see the lack of steps that their government has taken to meet their concerns,” Robert Gibbs, a White House spokesman, told a daily news briefing.

U.S., Egypt exchange verbal blows over inability to quell persisting unrest
Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit says U.S. imposing its will on Cairo, as White House slams Egyptian leadership for lack of reform.

Egyptian Foreign Minister: US Should Not Impose Will on Egypt; Violence Against Uprising Possible
PBS NewsHour‘s Margaret Warner has secured very important interviews with Egypt Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit. In the five minute clip above, Foreign Minister Gheit is pushing back, telling the US that its expectations are out of line with political and time realities in Egypt. The Egyptian government, including the Foreign Minister in this interview, have forcefully rebuffed Vice President Biden’s and President Obama’s request for the Egyptian government to suspend its stifling Emergency Law.

Egypt Foreign Minister Gheit: Mubarak Feels He is an “Indispensable President
Egypt’s Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit gave PBS a lengthy interview today. In addition to the usual jargon, he revealed Egyptian Hosni Mubarak’s true beliefs about his role in Egypt, his legacy, and how he feels about US pressure for him to step down.

Mubarak government issues warning as unrest, dissent grow in Egypt
CAIRO – An array of new developments turned against President Hosni Mubarak on Wednesday as Egypt moved closer to a full rupture between its autocratic government and a growing popular rebellion.

Egypt rejects US advice on reforms
Foreign minister rejects calls for immediate repeal of emergency law and says US “imposing its will” on Cairo

U.S., Egypt square off over protesters’ demands
* White House says Mubarak’s govt must do more to change
* Egyptian minister rejects US “imposing will” on Cairo
* Violence flares in desert province, breaking relative calm
* Next big demonstrations planned for Friday

Obama’s advisors split on when and how Mubarak should go
White House aides acknowledge that the differing views among Obama’s team of advisors has resulted in a mixed message on Egypt.  The Obama administration’s shifting response to the crisis in Egypt reflects a sharp debate over how and when Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak should leave office, a policy decision that could have long-term implications for America’s image in the Middle East.,0,3809182.story

Inside the White House – State Department rift on Egypt
The White House and the State Department have been sending out different messages over the past few days regarding the U.S. position on Egypt. The seeming disparity between the focus and tone of remarks by officials from each part of the government has the Washington community wondering if there’s a rift between Pennsylvania Avenue and Foggy Bottom and who’s really in charge.

Egypt’s Brotherhood says “real talks” yet to start
CAIRO, Feb 9 (Reuters) – Egypt’s biggest opposition group, the Muslim Brotherhood, said on Wednesday it would stick to its demand that President Hosni Mubarak step down in talks with the authorities that many in the opposition fear are a trick.

Egyptian minister quits Mubarak’s new cabinet
CAIRO, Feb 9 (Reuters) – A minister has resigned from the Egyptian cabinet formed by President Hosni Mubarak in response to an uprising against his rule, a family member said on Wednesday.

Cables: FBI trained Egypt’s state security ‘torturers’
‘Thousands’ of protesters may have been tortured: report Egypt’s secret police, long accused of torturing suspects and intimidating political opponents of President Hosni Mubarak, received training at the FBI’s facility in Quantico, Virginia, even as US diplomats compiled allegations of brutality against them, according to US State Department cables released by WikiLeaks.

WikiLeaks: Suleiman told Israel he would ‘cleanse’ Sinai of arms runners to Gaza
Omar Suleiman, the new vice-president of Egypt, told the Israelis he wanted to start “cleansing the Sinai” of Palestinian arms smugglers, according to leaked cables.

Australian detainee Mamdouh Habib recounts torture at the hands of the US/Israeli favorite Omar Suleiman
Australian citizen Mamdouh Habib was captured and tortured in the years after September 11 in both Egypt and Guantanamo Bay.

Soliman : Fear Al Qaeda !!
So Soliman has not convinced anybody whether the international community or the Egyptians with the Muslim brotherhood conspiracy theory , he actually does not care that much about those people “who lack the culture of democracy and so he is speaking the language the West knows very : Al Qaeda phobia !! We found suddenly the general wearing us that there are Al Qaeda members who escaped from the Egyptian prisons , thus we should be very afraid or rather the West should be very fear.

“..Nobody has any illusions about what Omar Suleiman wants to do,.. what is unknown is what Suleiman could be persuaded to do. ..”
“..The White House invited several Middle East scholars to discuss the Egypt upheaval Tuesday.  Among those who attended were the Center for Strategic and International Studies’s Jon Alterman, Dan Brumberg of the U.S. Institute of Peace, Fouad Ajami of Johns Hopkins University and the Wall Street Journal, former George W. Bush White House Middle East and democracy advisor Elliott Abrams, Human Rights Watch’s Tom Malinowski, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Michele Dunne, and Scott Carpenter, a former State Department Middle East democracy official now with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. The one and a half hour meeting, with the NSC’s Dan Shapiro, Samantha Power, and Ben Rhodes, was off the record.

“.. Samy Anan can end the crisis “in a minute” ..”
In a conversation with a group of young military officers I came out with strong impressions that the real strong man now is the CJCS Gen Samy Anan. The young officers believe that it is him who has the key to the solution and that he will “do something”. Gen Sulliman does not have the same weight in the military like Anan. The young officers hint to the fact that the Air Force is very loyal to Mubarak and that the Presidential guard is hostile to Anan. They also oppose the idea that the next president should be a civilian. One of them said that Anan can end the crisis “in a minute” but did not explain how. All of them agreed that using force by the military is a very remote possibility.  I do not understand why Anan did not make a move yet. He solidly refuses to use force against the demonstrators and seem to be letting events unfold so far as they do not reach a certain tipping point. He refused orders by Mubarak to use force. If he just goes to the TV building and announce the termination of the Mubarak regime he could turn in a minute to a national hero and possibly the next President. Anan sent a text mssg to all cell phones in Egypt that the army will not use force. That was almost 10 days ago. Everybody seem to be talking now about the expected role of the army and Anan refusal to use force and his role in ending the current situation.  Yusuf al-Misry

Obama speaks with Saudi king about Egypt crisis
WASHINGTON, Feb 9 (Reuters) – U.S. President Barack Obama spoke to Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah on Wednesday about the political situation in Egypt, the White House said.  “The president emphasized the importance of taking immediate steps toward an orderly transition that is meaningful, lasting, legitimate, and responsive to the aspirations of the Egyptian people,” the White House said in a statement.  “The president also reaffirmed the long-term commitment of the United States to peace and security in the region.”

Egypt Nobel laureate Zewail urges Mubarak to go now
U.S.-Egyptian scientist Ahmed Zewail once received a medal from President Hosni Mubarak. Now, he says, it’s time for the Egyptian leader to heed the demonstrators clamoring for his departure.  “He should step down tomorrow and allow for a transitional government,” Zewail told Reuters in an interview on Wednesday.

Hamas says Egypt ex-minister tied to church attack
GAZA CITY (Ma’an) — Hamas says legal action against former Egyptian Minister of Interior Habib Al-Adili linking him to the Alexandria church bombing exposes the baselessness of the minister’s accusations against Palestinians.  The Islamist movement said in a statement that accusations that Palestinians targeted the Saints Church on New Year’s Day was to incite the world against Palestinians, distort the resistance, and justify the blockade of Gaza.

Egypt passport official: No Palestinians allowed into Egypt
An official at the Egyptian passports authority said on Wednesday that instructions were received banning entry of Palestinians into Egypt.

Media Suppression and Repression
Where Is Kareem Amer?
A few years ago, he was one of Egypt’s boldest bloggers, scathingly critical of his government and of conservative Islam. His release from prison came only last November, and now he’s gone again.

Magda Abu-Fadil: Egyptian Media Defects Highlighted by Local Journalists
Journalists working for major state-run dailies and television channels have revealed, off the record, that senior officials in their news organizations were corrupt, abused power, and lined their pockets at taxpayers’ expense.

Mohamed Abdel Dayem: Egyptian Journalists Take a Stand
The wave of defiance against entrenched censorship and interference by the state in Egypt is likely to reach a crescendo tomorrow, when journalists are calling for a massive demonstration by media practitioners.

Protests/Protesters/Attacks Against Them & Eyewitness Accounts
The Lede: Latest Updates on Day 17 of Egypt Protests
The Lede continues to follow the protest movement in Egypt, now in its third week.

“We are attempting to name all of the brave Egyptians who have been killed…”

Striking doctors join Egypt rally
Striking doctors join protesters in central Cairo, with reports of walkouts by lawyers, textile workers and bus drivers around Egypt.

Workers continue Egypt strikes
Doctors and lawyers among thousands of workers joining strike as anti-Mubarak demonstrations enter 17th day.

Egypt Labor Strikes Break Out Across The Country; Protesters Defiant
CAIRO – Thousands of state workers and impoverished Egyptians launched strikes and protests around the country on Wednesday over their economic woes as anti-government activists sought to expand their campaign to oust President Hosni Mubarak despite warnings from the vice president that protests won’t be tolerated much longer.

Unions boost Egypt protests
Thousands have gathered in Tahrir oSquare to continue their call for President Hosni Mubarak’s resignation. Three independent unions have joined them, meaning that in addition to the anti-Mubarak protests hundreds of workers are on strike in Cairo, Alexandria and Suez demanding better pay. But Mubarak is still in office – refusing to step down. Alan Fisher reports from Cairo

Wael Ghonim, Freed Google Manager, ‘Ready To Die’ For Egypt

Wael Ghonim, a Google manager who has become something of a hero among Egyptian protesters, said on Wednesday that it is “no longer the time to negotiate” with the government.  In an interview with CNN, Ghonim said, “We went on the streets on the 25th, and we wanted to negotiate. We wanted to talk to our government…. They decided to negotiate with us at night, with rubber bullets, with police sticks, with water hoses, with tear gas.” According to CNN’s Ivan Watson, Ghonim also said he is “ready to die” for the cause.

Come home to force change, Ghonim urges Egyptians
Dubai: Wael Ghonim, Google’s marketing manager for the Middle East and North Africa, and one of the youth leaders of the ongoing Egyptian mass movement, has called on his compatriots from all over the world to return home and support the youth in Al Tahrir Square as they strive for a political rejuvenation in the country.

Google executive earns star status in Egypt’s revolt
CAIRO (AFP) — Cyberactivist Wael Ghonim, a young executive at internet giant Google, rallied thousands of pro-democracy demonstrators and catapulted to star status among Egypt’s youth thanks to Facebook.  Part fashionable marketing man, part engaging cyber-geek, the 30-year-old who launched the January 25 online call to arms against the Egyptian regime, has the polish of a politician in-the-making and an intellectual veneer.

Wael Ghonim interview on CNN

Victims’ mothers drawn into Egypt protests
‘Egypt is my real mother. I must go save her,’ said one of the men killed in the early days of the protests. Organizers are using images of the ‘martyrs’ and their mothers to keep passions stoked. Day laborer Mohammed Badr clearly didn’t expect trouble when he left home to join the pro-democracy protests in Tahrir Square early on Jan. 29. He took his 5-year-old son, Mahmoud, and promised to return for dinner.,0,2796341.story

Scenes from Egypt’s Parliament: Two Nights of Sitting In
On Tuesday, February 8, protesters in Cairo began sleeping in front of the parliament building a short walk from Tahrir Square, the center of the protests. Their protest, like its twin in Tahrir, quickly exploded into a semi-permanent encampment, complete with graffiti. At the end of the video, one of the parliament protesters bears a street sign that used to say “Maglis el-Shaab” or “People’s Assembly” street – now it just says “People’s Street.”

Anti-Mubarak demonstrators remain defiant
It is midnight in Egypt and protesters remain camped out on the streets of Cairo. But the fact that workers are on strike across the country may be a more worrying development for the government. We continue our live blogging for February 10, as protests enter the 17th day in Egypt.

The Lede: Latest Updates on Day 16 of Egypt Protests
The Lede continues to follow the protest movement in Egypt, now in its third week.

Egypt protesters seek to spread beyond Tahrir Square
Egypt’s protesters yesterday staged the largest protest since the democracy uprising began more than two weeks ago. Now, they may join forces with Egyptian laborers.

Hossam el-Hamalawy “The Egyptian Working Class Enters the Arena with Full Force”
My sources have just confirmed this now. The Cairo Public Transportation workers, who started a strike today in six garages — Nasr Station, Fateh Station, Ter’a Station, Amiriya Station, Mezzalat Station, Sawwah Station — have issued a statement with a list of demands, calling for overthrowing Mubarak. No public buses will roam Cairo tomorrow, except those buses that will bring the drivers to the central station in Nasr City’s el-Gabal el-Ahmar, where the strikers have announced they will declare an independent union. . . . This comes as strikes have spread literally everywhere. It’s happening, people. It’s happening. The working class has entered the arena with full force today. Mubarak’s regime’s fate will be sealed SOON!

Interview with an Egyptian blogger
Al Jazeera speaks to Hossam El-Hamalawy, a blogger and activist from Cairo, on the strikes set to sweep Egypt.

After Record-Level Turnout in Tahrir, Egyptian Protests Spread to Parliament, Cabinet Buildings; Labor Unions Launch Strikes Nationwide
Egypt’s pro-democracy uprising is seizing new momentum one day after hundreds of thousands turned out for one of the largest protests in Cairo’s Tahrir Square to date. A gathering of protesters led to the evacuation of the Egyptian cabinet building today, and tent camps are also being set up outside the Egyptian parliament. Egypt’s labor movement has launched new strikes across the country, with an estimated 10,000 workers taking part. Democracy Now! Senior Producer Sharif Abdel Kouddous interviews a demonstrator outside the Egyptian parliament building.

“We Are Writing History By Our Blood”: Egyptian Physician on Why Protests Won’t End Until Mubarak Resigns
Democracy Now! Senior Producer Sharif Abdel Kouddous speaks to Egyptian physician Dr. Ali El Mashad in Cairo’s Tahrir square over the weekend. Dr. Mashad describes being injured in the streets and bleeding from the head. “We are writing history by our blood,” he says. Mashad says he will not stop demonstrating until Mubarak leaves office.

“People Are Taking Care of Each Other”: Democracy Now!’s Anjali Kamat Camps With Protesters Overnight in Tahrir Square
Democracy Now! correspondent Anjali Kamat reports on the festive atmosphere in Tahrir Square last night following a record-level turnout of protesters: “People are taking care of each other very well, giving each other food, water and blankets. It is a very moving experience,” Kamat says.

#Jan25 Public transportation workers call for overthrowing Mubarak
My sources has just confirmed this now… The Cairo Public Transportation workers, who started a strike today in five Garages: Nasr Station, Fateh Station, Ter’a Station, Amiriya Station, Mezzalat Station, Sawwah Station, have issued a statement with a list of demands, calling for overthrowing Mubarak. No public buses will roam Cairo tomorrow, except those buses that will bring the drivers to the central station in Nasr City’s el-Gabal el-Ahmar, where the strikers have announced they will declare an independent union.The strikers’ statement has also called for abolishing the emergency law, removing NDP from the state institutions, dissolving the parliament, drafting new constitution, forming a national unity govt and setting a national minimum wage of LE1200 and prosecuting corrupt officials… This comes as strikes have spread literally everywhere… It’s happening people… It’s happening… The working class has entered the arena with full force today. Mubarak’s regime’s fate will be sealed off SOON!

The youth of Tahrir Square
Al Jazeera meets the newly formed “youth coalition” who are speaking on behalf of a broad array of voices in the square.

Dispatch from Tahrir
I spent most of the day today walking around Downtown Cairo and Midan Tahrir. There are still tens of thousands of people in the square. A definite rhythm has established itself, with Tuesday and Fridays the serious turn-out days; the rest of the week a moulid-like atmosphere pervades the area, with families visiting it, taking pictures next to tanks and the various memorials and displays set up in the square–out on the fun excursion. Some genius has started making hundreds of laminated مصر فوق الجميع (“Egypt Above Us All”) tags that you can wear around your neck (they sell for 2 pounds, about 30 cents). Sellers are also doing a brisk business in Egyptian flags, snacks and drinks. Opposition newspapers are taped to walls so everyone can read them; and some enterprising local restaurateur has set up shop in the demolished Hardee’s.

I know you all fear that our fervor is waning. It is not, Ahmed Moor
Almost universally, everyone I’ve spoken to who isn’t in Egypt over the past few days has expressed a concern that the revolutionary fervor here is waning. I am happy to report that isn’t what I’ve been witnessing. But a few new developments both here and internationally are worth discussing.  News that economic activity was returning to Cairo appeared to suggest that the protesters had begun to grow weary. That isn’t what I’ve observed. Yesterday, more people participated in the Tahrir demonstration than at any other time in the past 16 days. What surprised me was the number of first-time demonstrators who showed up. I don’t doubt that the Ghonim interview touched a lot of people and encouraged them to participate (and many hope he’ll lead the movement). But, I also think that increased food and cash security alleviated the sense of siege that persisted for much of last week. For instance, food and water were very difficult to come by in downtown Cairo on Friday and Saturday. Yesterday, I was offered food and drinks at pretty short and regular intervals. I think that that security positively impacted energy levels and turnout.

Actors for the Revolution
Cinema actors and actresses have issued a statement in support of the revolution and will be staging a march today Thursday 12 pm in solidarity from their syndicate headquarters to Tahrir Square…

Egypt’s Tahrir Square MC rocks protest crowds
CAIRO (AFP) — Like a rock star, Ali Elfi faces adoring crowds, a microphone in hand as he belts out lines. But his lyrics are anti-regime chants and his stage is Cairo’s protest central: Tahrir Square.  Elfi is dressed like a rocker, in jeans and a leather jacket, but his role is more like that of an orchestra conductor, controlling the mood of the crowd, riling them up and leading call-and-response chants against the government.

29/1/11 The Battle for Lazoughli

Damietta protesters clash with Mubarak’s thugs

Revolutionaries expand the area they control, moving to besiege the parliament….

Children revolt in Tahrir

Amazing: Egyptian Uprising

Dancing in Tahrir

Chanting in Tahrir


Divers for the Revolution

Long Live Egypt

Video of Egyptian Workers Protesting and Parliament Takeover & More

Go to Tel Aviv, They like you over there

Great Pictures Capturing the Revolution

Divers holding a banner addressed to Mubarak that reads: Leave before air runs out!

Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt. Feb 8, 2011

The Role of Social Media
Wired, Educated and Shrewd, Young Egyptians Guide Revolt
As the Egyptian government has sought to splinter a protest movement led by young professionals, its leaders have stepped forward for the first time to describe their hidden role.

Inside Story – The tool for revolution?
Social media has been dubbed the new tool for revolutionaries. But with many of the protesters on the ground having little or no access to the internet in Egypt, can social media really be credited with sparking the recent uprisings across the Middle East?

Egypt activists have upper hand in cyber war
CAIRO – President Hosni Mubarak’s supporters took their battle against anti-government protesters to cyberspace but their voices were drowned out by an army of tech-savvy activists willing to wage keyboard war.  Anti-regime street protests had for years been stifled by Egypt’s powerful security apparatus but, much to everyone’s surprise, it only took a few clicks to launch the biggest ever challenge to Mubarak’s 30-year presidency.

From the Blogosphere to the Street: The Role of Social Media in the Egyptian Uprising
While the uprising in Egypt caught most observers of the Middle East off guard, it did not come out of the blue. The seeds of this spectacular mobilization had been sown as far back as the early 2000s and had been carefully cultivated by activists from across the political spectrum, many of these working online via Facebook, twitter, and within the Egyptian blogosphere. Working within these media, activists began to forge a new political language, one that cut across the institutional barriers that had until then polarized Egypt’s political terrain, between more Islamicly-oriented currents (most prominent among them, the Muslim Brotherhood) and secular-liberal ones. Since the rise of the Islamist Revival in the 1970s, Egypt’s political opposition had remained sharply divided around contrasting visions of the proper place of religious authority within the country’s social and political future, with one side viewing secularization as the eminent danger, and the other emphasizing the threat of politicized religion to personal freedoms and democratic rights. This polarity tended to result in a defensive political rhetoric and a corresponding amplification of political antagonisms, a dynamic the Mubarak regime has repeatedly encouraged and exploited over the last 30 years in order to ensure a weak opposition. What was striking about the Egyptian blogosphere as it developed in the last 7 or so years is the extent to which it engendered a political language free from the problematic of secularization vs. fundamentalism that had governed so much of political discourse in the Middle East and elsewhere.

World Solidarity
Despite PA repression, Palestinians rally for Egypt
In the occupied West Bank city of Ramallah last weekend, security forces belonging to the Palestinian Authority attempted to pacify a protest of 2,000 persons.

Palestinians in Gaza hold Egypt solidarity rally
Several hundred students rallied in central Gaza on Wednesday in a show of solidarity with the ongoing anti-government protests in Egypt

Friends of the Dictator
Congress debates the Muslim Brotherhood and aid to Egypt
Today’s first hearing of the Republican-led House Foreign Affairs Committee was dominated by the question of how much the United States should fear the empowerment of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood and what leverage should be used against the Egyptian military to get them to behave in accordance with U.S. interests. Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) opened the hearing with a broad criticism of the Obama administration’s handling of the crisis in Egypt, which she said is now tilting too far in support of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and is failing to counteract the threat posed by the rise of Islamist parties such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

PA security forces targeting Egypt-supporting Palestinians
Peaceful demonstrators targeted by Palestinian Authority security forces during a demonstration in support of the Egyptian uprising.

These are some of the celebrity assholes who denounced the revolution…

As’ad Abukhalil’s Commentary
Angry Arab on Egypt at UC, Davis [Feb 8,11]

The heroic Egyptian Army
This is a picture of the heroic Egyptian Army.  I am reminded of its heroism as I listen to Muhammad Hasanayn Haykal praise the Egyptian Army.

Obama receives expert opinion on democracy
“The President spoke today with King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia about the situation in Egypt.  The President emphasized the importance of taking immediate steps toward an orderly transition that is meaningful, lasting, legitimate, and responsive to the aspirations of the Egyptian people.  The President also reaffirmed the long-term commitment of the United States to peace and security in the region.

so what would you do without Sulayman?
“The agency has cultivated its relationships with people such as Gen. Omar Suleiman, Egypt’s chief of intelligence and now vice
president, but it has not done as well understanding the world of the protesters.”

A Panel On Egypt at Emory University
A reader at Emory University sent me this account):  “yesterday, there was a panel discussion in EMory University about the egyptian revolution. It was a joke. The panelists were so “white”.  The whole 2-hour discussion boiled down to discussing the fear from the muslim brotherhood and how they should be careful not to let the brother take over. One of the speakers, a pro-israeli prof. and the director of the “institute for the study of modern Israel” at Emory, was discussing something when he said that israel “withdrew” from Sinai in 1973.  Another speaker called Michael Youssef, a pastor, said that egyptians dont know what a tyrant is and then he went on to explain the suffering of the jews. Then I interfered and was made to shut up. his whole argument was flawed and focused on the brotherhood control of egypt and comparing that to iran. Another thing he said was: ” make no mistake, aljazeera English is completely the opposite from the arabic channel because it has american anchors”. He also said that he saw people getting paid money to stay in the “Midan el Ta7rir” (though he has not been in egypt recently”.  I felt it was so weird to highjack the stage and intead of talking about the dreams and aspirations of the live and dead egyptians and their courage for change but rather go and scare the audience from something that does not really exist (at least now). I thought u might want to know that about emory.”

“Should the government of Hosni Mubarak be replaced by one not truly committed to freedom and peace, the consequences for Israel could be devastating. As Egypt struggles toward an internal balance that appeases all forces, including the Muslim Brotherhood, peace with Israel could be the price of an Egyptian compromise. And the risks are worse if the Brotherhood, an organization deeply hostile to Israel, America and the West, gets to call the shots.”

The Great Egyptian Revolution, Dr. Azmi Bishara
The Tunisian and Egyptian revolutions heralded a new Arab era in which it is possible to couple freedom and social rights, sovereignty and citizenship. Arab regimes will not deride their populations anymore; and they will be facing a choice between comprehensive reforms and the complete overthrow of the regime. On the level of political powers and ideological splits, everything will change as well. Past divisions will lose their significance for the importance of past debates between ideological currents has greatly diminished. None of these actors was capable of engaging with the challenge of overthrowing despotism, and the phenomenon of new social powers that reject injustice and embrace ethical values without giving up their identity has risen. A new polyarchy shall emerge, and leading the ranks will be a thought that can combine democracy, social justice, and Arab identity without denying the legacy of the Islamic civilization.

“The Great Tragedy is Obama Chose Not to Hold Out His Hand”: Robert Fisk on the Gap Between U.S. Rhetoric and Action in Egyptian Uprising
The longtime Middle East correspondent of The Independent newspaper in London joins us from Cairo to talk about the popular uprising ongoing across Egypt, its regional implications, and how Obama should respond. “[The protesters] are asking for nothing less than Americans expect in their own lives,” Fisk says.

Robert Fisk: Hypocrisy is exposed by the wind of change sweeping Arab world
There is nothing like an Arab revolution to show up the hypocrisy of your friends. Especially if that revolution is one of civility and humanism and powered by an overwhelming demand for the kind of democracy that we enjoy in Europe and America. The pussyfooting nonsense uttered by Obama and La Clinton these past two weeks is only part of the problem. From “stability” to “perfect storm” – Gone With the Wind might have recommended itself to the State Department if they really must pilfer Hollywood for their failure to adopt moral values in the Middle East – we’ve ended up with the presidential “now-means-yesterday”, and “orderly transition”, which translates: no violence while ex-air force General Mubarak is put out to graze so that ex-intelligence General Suleiman can take over the regime on behalf of America and Israel.

The tide is changing for the army, Issandr El Amrani
When the uprising began in Egypt and tanks deployed on the streets on January 28, the military was initially welcomed. Perhaps many thought it had carried out a coup against Mubarak (in fact it probably partially has), and many more still cherished the myth of the Egyptian army triumphant in 1973 after the defeat of 1967. Things began to turn last week when the army stood and did nothing while pro-Mubarak thugs attacked the crowd in Tahrir. The protestors issued an ultimatum to the army to pick its side: with them, or with Mubarak. The army has still done nothing. Then, over the weekend, military police (and probably military intelligence) were deployed to beef up security on the streets. It then came out that they have been arresting dozens if not hundreds of people, and began raiding the offices of human rights activists and visiting the homes of people asking to poke around their computers.

People & Power – Egypt: Seeds of change
People & Power reveals the story behind the unprecedented political protests in Egypt. Over the course of a remarkable fortnight, People&Power has been filming exclusively behind the scenes with a core group of young activists.

Muslims and Christians Protest as One, Adam Morrow and Khaled Moussa al-Omrani
CAIRO – Over recent years, Egypt has witnessed mounting tension between its Muslim majority and its sizeable Coptic Christian minority. But in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, the site of ongoing mass protests against the ruling regime, members of both faiths chant in unison: “Muslim, Christian, doesn’t matter; We’re all in this boat together!”

Tahrir’s Other Sky, Noura Erakat and Sherene Seikaly
Egypt’s exhilarating call for freedom, as Elliot Cola recently noted is an astonishing moment of poetry. The refrain, “Ish-sha‘b/yu-rîd/is-qât/in-ni-zâm,” [The People Want the Fall of the Regime]resoundingly rings for millions in the Arab world and beyond. With all eyes on Liberation Square, many are wrestling with what Maya Mikdashi aptly called the unfamiliar restlessness of hope. As the twists and turns of the 25 January Revolution quickly unfold, another extraordinary process is taking place. The relentless resilience of Egyptians risking life and limb for freedom has seared cracks in the sky and revealed another horizon of politics.

Jim Cowie: The Resilience of Egypt
The Egyptian “kill switch” was simultaneously a technical success and a mystifying strategic blunder. Could other governments implement such a kill switch?

Wael Ghonim vs. Barack Obama: Change we Can Believe in, Yes we Can, Juan Cole
It is no secret that President Barack Obama has been in some regards a profound disappointment to the American Left, and his erratic and often disgraceful performance on the Egypt crisis exemplifies his faults in this regard. He just seems to lack empathy with the little people and is unwilling to buck the rich and powerful, even though they all opposed his run for the presidency. As Iran’s speaker of the house put it, the Obama administration, faced with a choice of supporting the youth revolution or the camels unleashed on it, has chosen the camels. It makes a person think there should be rule that no one can run for the presidency who didn’t have a proper father figure in his or her life (Bill Clinton, W., Obama), since apparently once they get into office they start thinking the billionaires are their long-lost parent, whom they have to bend over backward to please.

How hard would it be to back Egyptian democracy, Mr President? | Joshua Treviño
This is a simple enough choice between liberty and tyranny, yet the White House has done nothing but equivocate and dodge. The administration of Barack Obama has reacted to the uprising against Hosni Mubarak with the enthusiasm of a man condemned to consume a gallon of plain yoghurt. The president of the United States is not against Egyptian democracy, exactly – but neither is he especially for it.

Beyond Tahrir: Two faces of Egypt | Editorial
On the one hand there is vice-president Omar Suleiman, and on the other young activist Wael Ghonim. You only have to hear and see the two men for a few minutes to understand what is at stake in Egypt. On the one hand there is vice-president Omar Suleiman, with his clipped moustache and beautifully cut suits. Clearly intelligent, but also inherently slippery, his words are intended to be reassuring, but every now and then there is a hint of menace. He may well be less wily and less in control than he likes to appear, as our story today on the state of negotiations suggests, but this is still the face of a survivor, a fixer, and a believer in the authority over others of old foxes like himself which his own body language so obviously conveys.

My love for you, Egypt increases by the day
The call begins with a song portraying the love people of Egypt have for their country. Caller: My love for you, Egypt increases by the day. And you know that Egypt. You know it Egypt. You know that I live and die for you.  Every day I love you  more than the day before.  It ends here my dear country, so be happy and proud of your children and martyrs. Because we want no safe comfort. I swear to you we gave up everything, just so we can hold onto you, dear country. So be filled with joy, because that’s it! We are freeing you! And in no time you will become again the magnificent country you once were. Be happy, because the next regime that will rule you will be worthy of that responsibility, it will be everything unlike the lowlife revolting system led by the lowlife Mubarak and his followers. I swear to God you will be free, and soon! Because, we are not leaving. I swear we are not leaving.  We are not buying all this nonsense talk about negotiation. All these negotiation’s meetings being planned are fruitless, because it is just a charade played by 2 parts of the corrupted system and political parties trying to converse together. And this is not our conversation. And pardon me for saying this, but before people used to grovel for the sake of those political parties but not anymore. So again I repeat we are not leaving before we cleanse Egypt from this corrupted regime. This regime must be wiped out completely.  He and his followers will that robbed this country.

Memo from Egypt: We Shall Not Be Moved, Ahmed Amr
With every passing day, the Egyptian uprising gathers strength as more citizens rally to the cause and demand the immediate resignation of Hosni Mubarak. The regime’s pillars are crumbling. Yesterday, the demonstrators surged out of Tahrir Square and marched towards the National Assembly and the building that houses the Ministry of Interior. But perhaps the most important development was the smaller demonstrations held in front of government owned media outlets and the resignations of a number of prominent journalists on the regime’s payroll.

The Arab Pro-Democracy Movement: Struggles to Redefine Citizenship
We are witnessing a historic moment in Egypt and the Arab world. The youth of the region have a revolutionary opportunity to enfranchise citizens—this is the antithesis of the entire post-colonial formula. I am trying to identify the tangible but radical changes that can take place. Clearly there are many forces in Egypt that might undermine this revolutionary situation. The old political parties, and most importantly the Muslim Brotherhood—might try cutting deals. I think the most that may come out of this is a serious democratic revolution–not a small achievement–to alter relations of power, and promote a serious agenda for socio-economic justice. The role of youth and the street is crucial, and their new form of organization (network as opposed to hierarchical) is an advantage but it has its pitfalls and limitations. It is unparalleled, but who and what will play a crucial role in reversing the social and political relations? I am unable to provide an answer for this from Orange, CA.

The west’s debt to Egypt | Ahmed Salah
After actively supporting Mubarak’s corrupt and violent rule, the west has a duty to help end it. This week has seen the biggest protest in the history of Egypt. Millions have demonstrated in Cairo and other cities all over the country – north, south, east, and west. All had the same demands. The first, as the world knows now, is that the dictator Hosni Mubarak must step down.

Trade unions: the revolutionary social network at play in Egypt and Tunisia | Eric Lee and Benjamin Weinthal | Eric Lee and Benjamin Weinthal
The media have focused on Facebook and Twitter, but the pro-democracy movements have flourished thanks to unions. Perhaps the most overlooked factor in the demise of the authoritarian Ben Ali regime in Tunisia, and the weakening of Hosni Mubarak’s grip on state power in Egypt, has been the trade unions in both countries. While the media has reported on social networks such as Twitter and Facebook as revolutionary methods of mobilisation, it was the old-fashioned working class that enabled the pro-democracy movements to flourish.

Recuperating the Democracy Narrative: Fareed Zakaria and Preparing for a Post-Mubarak World
On February 8, 2011 Secretary of Defense and ex-CIA chief Robert Gates urged “ governments in the region” to “take measures to begin moving in a positive direction toward addressing the political and economic grievances of their people.”[1] The mantra has droned out of  Obama administration corridors for weeks including Hilary Clinton’s now infamous and indeed racist admonition of Arab regimes to reform in early January. In Doha, the Secretary of State criticizes the “corrupt institutions and stagnant political order,” which are “sinking into the sands.” For anyone vaguely familiar with the modern history of the Middle East, the rhetoric of reform espoused by Gates, Clinton and Obama among others smacks of a grotesque hybrid of arrogant superpower paternalism and selective memory.

Robert Scheer: Hey Obama, Read WikiLeaks

The new script in Egypt is out of an all-too-familiar playbook: Pick the longtime chief of Egyptian intelligence who has consistently done our bidding in matters of torture and retrofit him as a modern democratic leader.

Michael Hughes: U.S. Fears Democracy Might Actually Flourish in Egypt
The Obama administration has acted in accordance with standard U.S. operating procedure by supporting a dictatorial government, regardless how oppressive and undemocratic, in the name of serving U.S. national interest.

People Power v. Duplicity in Egypt and Washington, Stephen Lendman
Hundreds of thousands of protesters in Egypt’s capital and across the country remain resilient. They continue “mass demonstrations, with a new wave of optimism reaching the pro-democracy camp.

Philip N. Howard: A State Department 2.0 Response to the Arab Spring
It’s time to put State Department 2.0 to work, and the next step is to make more confident statements and commitments to supporting civil society.

Uprising has revealed the real Egypt | Amira Nowaira
The US and its allies have to realise the Egypt they have been dealing with is no more than a figment of their imagination.  There is no doubt in my mind that the Egyptian uprising that started on 25 January has caused a political earthquake whose aftershocks will resonate not only in Egypt but way beyond its borders as well. It will redraw lines, remap political topographies and create new perceptions. Those who ignore this fact will do so at their own peril.

Meet Egypt’s Future Leaders, ESAM AL-AMIN
On June 6, 2010, soft-spoken businessman Khaled Said, 28, had his dinner before retreating to his room and embarking on his daily routine of surfing the Internet, blogging, and chatting with his friends on different social websites. Several days earlier, he had posted a seven-minute online video of Alexandria police officers dividing up confiscated drugs among themselves.

On the Streets of Cairo, CHRIS FLOYD

For a few days, the imperial gang thought they had turned the tide — and their stenographers in the mainstream media followed suit. The protests in Egypt were running out of gas, we were told; now the power players were coming to the fore, in Washington and Cairo, to take charge of the situation and move things along — slowly, moderately — down a path of gradual reform and stability.

From Tiananmen to Tahrir Square, STEVEN COLATRELLA
As I write this hundreds of thousands have again filled Tahrir Square in Cairo, and hundreds of thousands more march in Alexandria on the Mediterranean coast , demanding an end to the authoritarian, pro-US government , pro-neoliberal  regime that has caused the Egyptian people such suffering under the 30 year rule of Hosni Mubarak. Along with their revolutionary fellow Arabs in Tunisia, Egyptians fighting for democracy and for a better life, and against injustice and inequality are on the front line in the battle for global civilization today. For it is civilization itself, global society as a whole that is at stake in the struggle taking place in the streets and squares of Egypt and across the Arab world. To understand this however, we need to understand the full, global context of these struggles and revolutions.

Egypt’s Berlin Wall Moment, Richard Falk
When the Soviet empire collapsed, the way was opened for the triumphalist pursuit of the American imperial project, seizing the opportunity for geopolitical expansion provided by its self-anointed global leadership – as ‘the sole surviving superpower’.

Let’s Go to Plan B, Philip Giraldi
Albert Einstein is often quoted as saying that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is a definition of insanity. He might have been describing the foreign policy of the United States of America. In the past week we long suffering citizens have seen our government stand by the dictator in Egypt, then call on him to go, and most recently support his staying on while at the same time publicly demanding that some transition start immediately. All of which is not doing the same thing over and over except when one considers that the US Department of State and White House have followed precisely the same dysfunctional pattern when dealing with other client states throughout the Middle East and in Central Asia. Take one position based on faulty and incomplete information, then take a contrary position when it appears that the first position was rash, finally shifting into yet a third formulation when numbers one and two turn out to be fraught with unintended consequences.

Cartoon: Egypt: Obama’s Counter-Revolution, by Carlos Latuff

Cartoon:  Mubarak the Laughing Cow, Carlos Latuff

Tunisia and Egypt Ripples Felt Throughout Arab World
Jordan king swears in new government after protests
Jordan’s King Abdullah swore in a new government on Wednesday, replacing a business friendly prime minister with an ex-general in response to anti-government protests inspired by uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt.

Lawyers protest against Iraq government (AFP)
AFP – Hundreds of lawyers took to the streets across Iraq on Thursday to protest against widespread corruption and unemployment in demonstrations inspired by anti-government uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia.*

Egypt inspires Iraq protests
Ongoing protests in Egypt are inspiring anti-government demonstrations in Iraq.

Palestinians turning to Arab Street for inspiration

GLUED TO television sets in Ramallah’s shisha cafes, Palestinians have been watching al-Jazeera television attentively as Egyptian people rise up from Alexandria to Cairo.  Looking on with admiration as tens of thousands fill the streets during the January 28th “Day of Rage”, cheers erupt through the cafes with every police retreat and every Molotov cocktail that lands on security vehicles.  It was fresh reaction of unity and optimism following the shame that rocked Palestinian society earlier in the week in the wake of al-Jazeera’s release of the “Palestine Papers”, the more than 1,600 documents (part of the WikiLeaks hoard) on the US-brokered peace process exposing the extent of Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) collaboration with Israel.

Syria Restores Access to Facebook and YouTube
Human rights advocates greeted the change guardedly, warning that the government might try to monitor activity on social networking sites.

Protests in Libya
Comrade Farag sent me this: “Also for some background information on why the 17th of Feb. copied from a news group that i belong to: 3. The Feb. 17th date comemmorates the following, so make sure you talk about it in your tweets.  - In 1987 a group of shabab were executed–their bodies dragged through the streets of Benghazi and left outside for days–for killing Ahmed Mufda’ Werfelli.  Werfelli was one of Gaddafi’s executionners.  He was known to smile and laugh when he put nooses around the people’s neck he executed.  He was also known for going through the markets, bullying people and gnerally being a jerk.  A group of young men followed him and killed him.  They were executed for their role. - In 2006 the government called people into the streets, in front of the Italian embassy, to protest the Italian ambassador wearing a t-shirt with the infamous cartoon of the prophet.  When people went to the embassy they began to riot…quickly the security forces turned against the people–beating them, etc.  The chants then transformed into chants against the regime and gaddafi himself.  18 people were confirmed dead…more were  probably killed, they were all young people with one being 15 years old.  And 700 were imprisoned, many of which are still in jail.  The protests spread through the region–reaching Tobruk. We are commemorating these brutal attacks on the people. 4. Gaddafi yesterday gathered a bunch of people, activists, bloggers, etc…to tell them, among other things, that if anybody joins these protests that their tribes will be punished.  In hopes that the tribes will keep people quiet.  He also said that all of these things were CIA and Mossad conspiracies to tear down Libya.  He said that Mubarak wasn’t a rich man…he borrowed his clothes from people.  He said a lot of delusional things, but mostly he wanted to scare people and to get the tribes to restrain people. 5. One of the Revolutionary committees (Gaddafi’s vanguard) called people to the streets to protest on 17th…as if Gaddafi was going to join them and demand his rights too.  Today they organized a protest in Tripoli in front of the Main building of the People’s committee in Tripoli.  They were blaming AlBaghdadi, the secretary of the committee, for everything in Libya….so you can see where this is all going.  Gaddafi’s committees hijaking people’es legitimate claims. Tweet about it, talk about it.  Please if you know any tidbit of info post it to dufungy immediately.”

The ascent of the Palestinian pharaoh
Economic dependency and an oppressive security state is the recipe that many dictatorial, one-person, or one-party regimes apply across the region. This model was followed by the once American-supported, and then American-deposed Saddam Hussein, to Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi, who was first a pariah in the West and then became its darling, to Tunisia’s Zine El Abedine Ben Ali who was overthrown by his people, among others. While the Egyptian people stand steadfast in an effort to overthrow their own Pharoah, a similar “pharoah regime” is steadily being built for Palestinians in the West Bank.

151 Responses

  1. Taxi
    February 10, 2011, 11:03 am

    Mazel tov Egypt!


  2. Kathleen
    February 10, 2011, 11:03 am

    Peaceful Peaceful….so inspiring. Phil what are you hearing about demands for Sulieman to go? The only MSMer who has been pounding on this is MSNBC’s Cenk Uygar

    • Justice Please
      February 10, 2011, 12:01 pm

      It’s not even a small victory if Omar Suleiman (torturer in chief!) doesn’t also step down immediately and free fucking elections are held not more than 1 months from now!

      Everything else would be treasonous towards all those brave people in the streets in Egypt.

      • Potsherd2
        February 10, 2011, 12:48 pm

        Exactly. If Suleiman stays, the regime stays. Or even if Suleiman appoints an alter ego from the regime.

        And this is what USrael is pushing for. They’re willing to throw Mubarak under the bus, but they’ll do anything to preserve the “stability” of the regime.

      • Psychopathic god
        February 10, 2011, 1:30 pm

        Andrea Mitchell assured American viewers of vice president Omar Suleiman. “He is a friend to Israel.”

        agreed, JusticePlease. The hardest part of the battle is still on the horizon.

        Much admiration and may the Egyptian demonstrators enjoy the fruits of their courage and go with God, but this ain’t over by half. Not until the revolution comes to the US and Americans demand the ouster of zionists from US government.
        long live Dennis Kucinich
        long live Ron Paul

      • Citizen
        February 10, 2011, 5:48 pm

        I’m with you all the way, PG. You nailed it!

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 9:42 am

        Rand Paul stepped out of line right away. Bringing up the idea of cutting aid to Israel. The MSM sure did not talk about this much.

        Also Rep Moran has definitely touched the edges of the truth about the I/P issue as well as Senator Webb

        Rep Kucinich and Rep Ron Paul …absolutely

  3. lysias
    February 10, 2011, 11:04 am

    NPR hourly news summary just quoted military spokesman as telling people: “All of your demands will be met.”

  4. Seham
    February 10, 2011, 11:05 am

    Military says they will meet all the demands of the protesters, I hope that means Sulieman is on his way to Tel Aviv too!

    • Kathleen
      February 10, 2011, 11:28 am

      ” I hope that means Sulieman is on his way to Tel Aviv too!”


      • lysias
        February 10, 2011, 11:38 am

        Reports that Mubarak is in Sharm el-Sheikh. I wonder if that’s as a way station to Saudi Arabia.

  5. Kathleen
    February 10, 2011, 11:06 am

    Yesterday Andrea Mitchell trying to shed a dark light on the Muslim Brotherhood. Very lop sided coverage

    • Seham
      February 10, 2011, 11:17 am

      Who cares Kathleen, nothing the media says here is going to make an impact on what Egyptians do. I love these freaking people!

      • Kathleen
        February 10, 2011, 11:30 am

        How things go in Egypt is very much determined by how the U.S., Israel, and the I lobby push. You have to be kidding to think that how and when we push does not make a difference.

        I too love these people. The people in the U.s. should be taking lessons

      • Seham
        February 10, 2011, 11:48 am

        The U.S. and Israel has been pushing to keep Mubarak in office, the will of the Egyptian is what is pushing him out, not the desires of the Americans and Israelis.

      • Kathleen
        February 10, 2011, 11:56 am

        Do you actually think someone like El Baradei or someone of the same thinking would be a possible candidate in elections? Someone who has been calling the U.S. and Israel out? You just watch over the upcoming months.

        Lets just hope you are right and “the will of the Egyptian people” wins out in upcoming elections. We will see

      • Seham
        February 10, 2011, 11:57 am

        At this point, I can only continue to have faith in what Egyptians out on the streets are doing. Every single time my faith in them wavered, they came back ten times as strong to surprise me.

      • eee
        February 10, 2011, 11:58 am

        For once I agree with Seham. Whatever US and Israeli politicians “want”, they have very little influence on what happens on the ground. They cannot control Mubarak and they certainly cannot control the protesters. They are just spectators like the rest of us.

      • pineywoodslim
        February 10, 2011, 12:51 pm

        But the US can have great sway in elections. It has a long history of interfering with foreign elections primarily through funding, but also through planted local media articles, engineering “scandals”, and so on.

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 9:43 am

        Just watch

    • munro
      February 10, 2011, 11:32 am

      Mrs Greenspan talked with Aayan Hirsi Ali (resident scholar at that bastion of civil rights activism the America Enterprise Institute).
      link to

      • Kathleen
        February 10, 2011, 11:58 am

        Saw that. Aayan Hirsi holds a monolithic view of Islam. She is intolerant. She is employed and promoted by the American Enterprise Institute. Her horrific personal experiences permeate her whole view of Islam

      • Miura
        February 10, 2011, 10:43 pm

        Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a serial liar as this Dutch TV documentary about her relatively well-off, comfortable, and elite school upbringing reveals. There are no particularly “horrific personal experiences” as far as she is concerned, just lots of family bickering and estrangement.

  6. Chaos4700
    February 10, 2011, 11:09 am

    I don’t mean to be a party pooper — this is great news — but if Muburak only steps down to make room for Omar Suleiman… what changes?

    • Kathleen
      February 10, 2011, 11:29 am

      MSNBC Cenk Uygar has been pounding on this point. Anyone hearing El Baradei being mentioned?

      • Potsherd2
        February 10, 2011, 12:52 pm

        El Baradei is an outsider. Westerners like him because he’s a familiar name, but I don’t think the Egyptian street gives much of a damn about him.

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 9:46 am

        Well you are certainly repeating what Andrea Mitchell, Jamie Rubin, Richard Engel and now Joe Scarborough are repeating.

        Scarborough comparing El Baradei ‘s role in Egypt to Ahmed Chalabi’s role in Iraq/Iran.

        Ummm El Baradei called the U.S. out on its “pack of lies” before the invasion of Iraq. Chalabi was part of the team who created, and dessminated those deadly “pack of lies”

    • CK MacLeod
      February 10, 2011, 11:33 am

      It’s too early to assess, Chaos, since we don’t know what the “package” is, but, even if Suleiman were to take over temporarily, it would be as a dictator-in-transition under highly questionable legitimacy, “dictator” in a land where the people, with the eyes of the world upon them, take down dictators. Something essential has already changed, but the military regime must be replaced step by step, over time, since the military apparatus still is seen as a guarantor of order and security – a not quite paradoxical project, but a somewhat contradictory one.

    • Taxi
      February 10, 2011, 11:45 am

      This is what the protesters are proposing:

      Remove EVERYTHING to do with Mubarak and that includes Suleiman (not The Magnificent) and the current Egyptian constitution (it’s just too rotten to be ‘patched-up’). Next, appoint three temporary presidents to authorize the writing of a new constitution. These presidents will include a military name, a judicial name (a judge), and a representative chosen by the street protesters combined. After one year of writing and debating and refining the new constitution, Egyptians will then vote in a referendum to make this new constitution into binding law. Soon as this is done, local campaigns for parliamentary elections can begin – after which presidential will thereon proceed.

      • Seham
        February 10, 2011, 11:59 am


        Where did you get this from???

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 12:16 pm

        I got it from my Egyptian friend here in LA who has four cousins and two sisters demonstrating daily in Tahrir Square. It’s what the youth of Tahrir Square have been discussing for days – the media’s not focused on their ‘ideas’ yet, just their massive presence – media’s been occupied/overwhelemed with the ‘slogans’, the moslem brotherhood and the political ‘personalities’ of the Mubarak regime.

        Smart, fair, wise youth, no?

      • Seham
        February 10, 2011, 12:24 pm

        Smartest, fairest, wisest youth ever!

      • Kathleen
        February 10, 2011, 12:01 pm

        Have heard much of what you share. “dictator in transition” good one

        “fluid” keeps running across the ticker tapes.

    • Chu
      February 10, 2011, 11:48 am

      good point, next come the rigged elections. Well, real change may come, wait and see (you debbie downer ;D).
      But no doubt the US and Israel will work to get their hooks in this process, Suleiman being their first draft round pick!

      • Seham
        February 10, 2011, 12:00 pm

        You really think that those people on the streets will allow the next elections to be rigged? I don’t, of that, I am positive.

      • Kathleen
        February 10, 2011, 12:05 pm

        Of course the majority of people do not want rigged elections. But when the money, advertising, special interest keep their fingers in the pie the will of the people is often plowed over

      • Chu
        February 10, 2011, 12:14 pm

        I don’t think so, but it’s possible, and glad you’re positive it will not occur! But after this great effort by the protesters, it’s difficult to imagine them accepting another despot government.

        It’s exciting to imagine what will happen during the next year.
        And all the thanks should go to our great president Obama for speaking in Cairo! His speech created the change we hoped for!
        (kidding, totally joking about the president’s impact!)

      • Chaos4700
        February 10, 2011, 12:15 pm

        To be fair, the rest of the world doesn’t work like the US. In spite of my lead-in, I have some confidence that the protests won’t end until there are free elections. It’s just a matter of whether the time scale is to be measured in weeks or months, or years.

      • Kathleen
        February 10, 2011, 12:02 pm

        Hope Carters election watch group goes in. Going over to the Elders website to see what they are saying

      • Chaos4700
        February 10, 2011, 12:14 pm

        I think all of us need to make a point of pushing for that, actually.

  7. Kathleen
    February 10, 2011, 11:27 am

    Who said the revolution would not be televised?

    Just why oh why did our MSM ignore hundreds of thousands of us who took to the streets and halls of congress protesting against the invasion of Iraq? Hundreds of thousands of us were out on the streets in New York, D.C. and across the nation millions, 30 million marched against that illegal, immoral bloody invasion world wide. Where was the MSM then? Silent. We were blocked out…off limits.

    So hopeful for the Egyptian people …their revolution is being televised around the world. Hope they get Israel and the U.S. off their backs. 30 years of oppression, 40-70 billion in the pockets of the Mubarak family. Wonder how much $$$$ Sulieman has been able to pocket?

    • crone
      February 10, 2011, 1:53 pm

      Aljazeera is the answer to the coverage of this…

      They have driven MSM to cover…

      pre invasion of Iraq they were demonized…

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 9:48 am

        They were blocked on all MSM outlets. Now we have a very different and positive change and more access

  8. Taxi
    February 10, 2011, 11:34 am

    Hey Mondo folks I’m synchronizing my morning time here in LA to Cairo night time and… bringing out the champagne at 8:30am! Well what else can a happy beach bum do on an unbelievably brilliant morning like this?! Even my molly fish are dancing in their tank with joy!!

    Oh I know it’s just the beginning and some will cynically say this is ‘premature’ blah blah – BUT why the heck not?! Come on surely you can see this is momentous history created before our eyes, history in the name of justice and freedom fully manifested BECAUSE of the SHEER WILLPOWER OF THE PEOPLE, THE SHEER WILLPOWER OF THE PEOPLE (yes it’s worth repeating! – I do dig the poetry of every word of it!)… yeah champagne-champagne definitely champagne today for Egypt it MUST BE!

    Chin-chin Egypt!!

    Fuck off Mubarak!!

    • Shmuel
      February 10, 2011, 11:55 am

      Chin-chin Egypt!!
      Fuck off Mubarak!!

      I don’t trust guys in uniform, but I’ll drink to that.

    • Chu
      February 10, 2011, 12:00 pm

      I’ll drink to that. It’s worth noting that this could
      have a ripple effect based on its success. So I’d say,
      stock up on the champagne.

    • Kathleen
      February 10, 2011, 12:04 pm

      “fuck off Mubarak”

      Fuck off U.S. and Israel

    • Seham
      February 10, 2011, 12:12 pm

      Taxi, have a drink for me! I will be following suit as soon as I leave work!

  9. lysias
    February 10, 2011, 11:36 am

    Al Ahram: Army may have taken over power in Egypt: A field army commander tells Ahram Online the just released communique of the Supreme Armed Forces Council means the army has seized power, for an interim period:

    The just released Communique #1 of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, announcing that the Council will remain in an open-ended session, in order to safeguard “the people’s achievements and demands”, is being interpreted widely as indicating that the Egyptian army has effectively seized political power in the country. A senior field commander gave Ahram Online’s correspondent in Tahrir sq his own interpretation of the statement. According to the senior army officer who preferred anonimity, the Supreme Council is about to announce, in statement #2, that it has taken over authority in the country, for an interim period, the duration of which is to be determined later.

    Asked about what such a step might mean for the president, the vice-president and the prime minister, the armed forces commander said “these are people who have no power over the of the armed forces.”

  10. Chu
    February 10, 2011, 11:57 am

    Mubarak must feel like such low filth. Imagine knowing
    the country that you are born into despises your existence.

    I wonder if the Obama admin will praise this for democracy in action?
    After Biden praised him for being our ally, not forgetting the admin’s bumbling stance, you wonder what they’ll say?

    • Kathleen
      February 10, 2011, 12:07 pm

      40-70 billion sure pays for a great deal of soap, spas and cleaning folks. That kind of dirty dough can not buy a person a conscience. Clearly he does not give a rats ass

      • Chaos4700
        February 10, 2011, 12:28 pm

        Although, he has sold off the one thing in order to get all that money that he can never, ever, buy back, no matter how much lucre he accumulates: respect. That’s some very opulent mud he’ll be languishing in without it.

      • pineywoodslim
        February 10, 2011, 12:55 pm

        I agree, and don’t think he cares whether he’s beloved or not. He made his deal with the devil years ago with eyes wide open. He knew what he was getting into and doing.

      • Colin Murray
        February 11, 2011, 9:15 am

        I hope whatever government forms in Egypt initiates legal action to seize back the tens of billions of dollars that Mubarak and cronies have stolen and salted away in foreign banks. Leave Mubarak penniless.

  11. Saleema
    February 10, 2011, 12:05 pm

    This is the 2nd best day of my life. (The first was when I became a mother.)

    • Kathleen
      February 10, 2011, 12:10 pm


    • Taxi
      February 10, 2011, 12:20 pm

      Salsoomee mabroook and may you live to see thousands more best days!

    • Scott
      February 10, 2011, 12:24 pm

      Yes, wow Saleema. I hope it’s not too soon to be celebratory.

  12. Kathleen
    February 10, 2011, 12:09 pm

    Maybe we could import these protesters to help us stir up complacent Americans to go after our Wall street thugs

    • Chaos4700
      February 10, 2011, 12:19 pm

      I suspect gangrene has set in too long for a tissue graft to do any good. Not to be, in turns, optimistic and cynical, but.

  13. Kathleen
    February 10, 2011, 12:17 pm

    Just said Mubarak still in Cairo at the Presidential palace

  14. Kathleen
    February 10, 2011, 12:21 pm

    This comment from Huff po …a winner

    Singled Out 2 minutes ago (12:17 PM) 24 Fans
    Become a fan Unfan
    Mubarak steps down and immediatel­y becomes the GOP’s number one hopeful for 2012.

  15. MHughes976
    February 10, 2011, 12:53 pm

    It is a great achievement to have got rid of Mu but…
    The BBC is giving the impression that the likely next phase is a takeover by the Supreme Military Council – whether this would be an attempt to reconstruct the regime (maybe even with Mu still there, saying that he has ‘handed over his powers’ to Suleiman) or a prelude to real elections is unclear. There is talk of an amended constitution, since apparently the present const is just a roundabout way of saying that Mu family members have to be elected. John Leyne for the BBC says that the generals have behaved ‘astutely’. Ho hum. ‘Desperately’ might be a better word, marked by profound concern with the feathers – a big, thick pile of them, I’m sure – in their own nest.
    A professor from St.Antony’s College, Oxford, is speaking as I write. He says ‘the coup has already happened’. He adds that everything, in terms of popular reaction, depends on whether the generals are going to try to keep Suleiman. Another reporter says that there was a massively positive reaction to the Army statement that ‘all your demands will be met’ but that on reflection no one knows what this means. A historian remarks that Egypt has shown the wish and capacity for constitutional, elected government since 1919, though that system lasted only for three years. This, he says, is exactly what the generals, whose class has been in power and creaming off everything it wants since 1952, very strongly do not want.
    Another report comes through on the prevarication of Obama, apparently being menaced by the Saudis. They might be next to be menaced from their own streets, of course. If that happens Obama, faced with an oil supply crisis, will really have to do something constructive, don’t you think?

  16. Colin Murray
    February 10, 2011, 12:53 pm

    I hate to be a party pooper, but if Suleiman takes over and the protesters just go home, they will be culled out like sheep for the slaughter to fill secret police torture chambers.

    Who Is Omar Suleiman?

    • MHughes976
      February 10, 2011, 2:11 pm

      I presume that they know this and therefore will not, in this event, go home. It will then be a question of whether the soldiers will shoot or whether they will change sides, making it the torturers’ turn to answer questions.

    • Avi
      February 10, 2011, 5:39 pm

      How about this scenario:

      Mubarak steps down in a few weeks, only to be replaced by Suleiman. The protesters then call on him to step down, as well. He takes his time, but leaves after a few weeks only to be replaced by another figure down the chain of command…..and on and on until September. At that point the regime will rig the elections, and by then the US would have had the time to groom another thuggish replacement.

  17. annie
    February 10, 2011, 1:08 pm

    OMG!!! the one morning a stay in bed to finish a great book and i almost missed the party!!


    • Walid
      February 10, 2011, 1:21 pm

      I have been glued to the TV all day waiting for the big announcement. I can see the egg dripping off the faces of the Americans and Israelis and Saudis that have been rooting for Mubarak all along. May the same happen to all the other dictators in the area. The MFA/Mondo hasbara squad is awfully quiet tonight.

      • Walid
        February 10, 2011, 1:27 pm

        Egypt state TV is now saying that Mubarak isn’t going anywhere. I think they are just trying to save face.

      • Seham
        February 10, 2011, 2:04 pm

        Let him have the arrogance to not step down and watch 10 million people on the streets of Egypt tomorrow!

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 2:36 pm


        Word is it would be 20 million demonstrators tomorrow if the old man don’t move out tonight – the Egyptian army does NOT want to police 20 million civilians out in full-throttle force.


        It’s making me dizzy just being a far-away witness to the determining and electrifying POWER OF THE PEOPLE IN ACTION!


      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 9:58 am

        Hope and pray the protesters stay peaceful peaceful! Big sit in. Sit down sit down. Peaceful Peaceful

        You know the Republicans are especially sad since as a commenter over at Huff Po said “he was the number one pick for the Republicans for the 2012 race”

        More seriously. Peaceful Peaceful

  18. Citizen
    February 10, 2011, 1:19 pm

    Sky News is reporting that Mubarak will speak at 6:30 GMT (1:30 pm EST).

    The military has sent out its 1st communique; says it will stay in session for now, and the people’s demands will be met.
    Perhaps Obama will react with another step after Mubarak speaks, depending on what he says? Right now he says he’s just watching events on the ground like everyone else–everything depends on the changing facts on the ground…

    I imagine the VP has plenty of domestic blackmail spy material on all the military high brass, so I don’t see how they could get rid of him if they wanted to… Same is likely for same reason re any US attempt to do so–I bet Wikileaks would like to have VPs spy & secret diplomatic files…

    • Walid
      February 10, 2011, 1:34 pm

      Obama set to speak on the situation any minute now.

  19. yourstruly
    February 10, 2011, 1:24 pm

    on the eve of one of history’s all time greatest popular advances

    rejoice not just that another tyrant has fallen

    oh happy day

    but that that the children of the nile have retaken the dawn

    the what sort of world

    now being up to them

    • Walid
      February 10, 2011, 2:25 pm

      While waiting for the big announcement, rumours are floating all over the place; one of them is that he has already left and landed in a “friendly” Arab country and what we’ll be hearing is a pre-recorded announcement.

      • Walid
        February 10, 2011, 2:34 pm

        Mubarak’s announcement coming up in 30 minutes.

      • seafoid
        February 10, 2011, 4:33 pm

        link to

        At one point Mubarak made a reference to being a young man and understanding the young men of Egypt – basically the people who are here – and at that moment the whole square erupted in anger. At that point, the whole square exploded in anger. The way that Mubarak is comparing himself to the people on the ground infuriated them.

        And when it became clear that the that Mubarak intended to stay on until September, the square shook with fury. “We are not going until he goes,” they chanted.

        There is real anger and real fury and people are not quite sure in which direction to channel it. As I speak to you now, one man is holding a banner next to me which says: “Freedom or I die here.” Tears are running down some people’s faces. They really thought he was going to go.

        There is a feeling that people want to get on the move now. I can hear this chant: “We’ll go to the palace and tear him out.”

        t seems that crowds from Tahrir Square are moving towards the state television headquarters in Cairo, while in Alexandria protesters are said to be moving towards the nearest military base.

        State television has reverted to its old trick of showing the protesters in the distance, showing that it at least remains firmly under the control of the regim

        9.20pm GMT: The Guardian’s Brian Whitaker gives his analysis of Mubarak’s speech:

        It was a seriously bad speech. Mubarak seems to have totally misjudged the situation. His start, saying he was speaking as a father to his children, was shockingly patronising. The crowd in Tahrir became increasingly angry as they realised he was offering nothing more than minor concessions.

        He also come out with the bizarre assertion that “the current situation” is not about his personality. Everyone else can see that it is about him.

  20. CK MacLeod
    February 10, 2011, 2:25 pm

    And the Eternal shall make Himself known to Egypt and the Egyptians shall know the Eternal that day; yea they shall worship with sacrifice and offering and shall vow a vow unto the Eternal and shall perform it…

    –Isaiah 19:21

    Was just running into this quote in relation to discussion on another thread, when the almost-news was announced.

    • Walid
      February 10, 2011, 3:00 pm

      Since the first Army statement was numbered as “1”, there should be a second Army statement immediately following Mubarak’s announcement. Planning for massive celebrations underway in Alexandria.

      I’m anxious to hear more about the Minister of the Interior’s direct involvement in the Alexandria church bombing that was discussed a few days back

      There will be a lot of people having nightmares in Israel tonight.

      • seafoid
        February 10, 2011, 4:34 pm

        “There will be a lot of people having nightmares in Israel tonight.”

        They deserve it. Taste of their own sick medicine.

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 10:04 am

        The illegal settlements in the West Bank issue and why people are so pissed off is never mentioned by Rachel Maddow and the rest never.

        This will be flipped into an Israel needs more money issue.

      • annie
        February 10, 2011, 5:10 pm

        anxious to hear more about the Minister of the Interior’s direct involvement in the Alexandria church bombing

        i missed this, please link

    • CK MacLeod
      February 10, 2011, 4:26 pm

      (Next verse: Isaiah 19:22 link to )

      • MHughes976
        February 10, 2011, 5:06 pm

        Just to take my mind off the horrible situation of this moment – the Eerdman Bible Comm says that these oracles arise from a situation where the Jewish religion was taking an international form and in particular where there was a Jewish temple in Egypt – its existence was regarded as a step too far by many. The Oxford Bible Comm rather flinches from this text, noticing that Christians are reluctant to think about it.

      • Shmuel
        February 11, 2011, 2:41 am

        Thanks for the diversion, MHughes. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but a definite pleasure for some of us.

        The Elephantine Temple immediately comes to mind, reading the text, but how does Eerdman reconcile the dates? By bringing Proto-Isaiah forward (or changing the division of Isaiah)? A later interpolation? Sounds a bit too associative to me.

        I had a couple of thoughts yesterday while reading chapter 19 (brought up by CKM). First of all, the fact that Egypt is referred to as “my people”, and Assyria as “the work of my hands” – alongside “Israel my inheritance”. Universalism indeed! The second thought had to do with another mention of the trio Israel-Egypt-Assyria, in Isaiah 27, which refers not to the peoples of Egypt and Assyria, but to gathering the Israelites “lost in the land of Assyria … and the dispersed in the land of Egypt”. Which brings us back to Hermann Cohen’s theology (again raised by CKM – thanks) regarding the role of Jewish dispersal and close contact with other nations in bringing about redemption. The argument is stronger, when the two chapters are juxtaposed, recognising not only the instrumentality of exile, but the inherent “holiness” of Egypt and Assyria in their own right. (See Levinas on holiness).

  21. Taxi
    February 10, 2011, 2:41 pm

    Index of Unrest in the Arab World:

    link to

    • Walid
      February 10, 2011, 3:36 pm

      Jazeera estimating the number of protestors in Tahrir at this moment as 3 million.

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 4:00 pm

        Oh oh he’s making a speech and saying he ain’t leaving!

        Well the night is still young…

        Be safe people of Egypt braving the streets tonight.

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 4:02 pm

        Gees he’s so effing deluded and his speech is sooooo long it’s putting me to frigging sleep!

      • Avi
        February 10, 2011, 5:47 pm

        The funny thing about such speeches is that they all sound alike. It’s as though Obama had a few extra speeches crammed somewhere in the sofa which he simply handed to Mubarak. “Here. This one’s good. I think they’ll like it. I wrote it one night as I dozed off watching Big Brother Egypt”.

        It’s the same nonsense over and over, whether it’s Putin giving a speech or Sarkozy doing the same.

        Those ‘leaders’ are only fooling themselves.

      • Walid
        February 10, 2011, 4:07 pm

        Mubarak finished his speech; he’s NOT leaving.

        It will get very ugly.

      • seafoid
        February 10, 2011, 4:50 pm

        Kida mish ha yinfa khaalis ya bash mohandis

      • tree
        February 10, 2011, 5:37 pm

        Could you translate for those of us who don’t have the slightest clue about Arabic?

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 8:19 pm

        I’ll translate:

        “This will not help at all sir” – seafoid

      • Antidote
        February 10, 2011, 10:18 pm

        mene mene tekel

      • seafoid
        February 11, 2011, 1:46 am

        That will not fly, o engineer pasha (which is the Cairene term of respect)

      • tree
        February 11, 2011, 4:11 am

        Thanks to both of you.

      • seafoid
        February 10, 2011, 4:31 pm

        He didn’t say anything and he is not going anywhere.
        So the crisis continues.

  22. Potsherd2
    February 10, 2011, 4:06 pm

    Speech delayed an hour – M not leaving.

    • Potsherd2
      February 10, 2011, 5:20 pm

      You really have to wonder why he decided to speak at all. I wonder if he changed his mind at the last minute – the delay suggests this.

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 8:20 pm

        You’d better believe the old man went rogue at the 11th hour.

      • Potsherd2
        February 10, 2011, 8:52 pm

        I do believe it. The army thought they had him sewed up, but he gave them the slip.

        The hour’s delay while they tried to get him to change his mind back.

      • Taxi
        February 10, 2011, 11:54 pm

        America breaks it to Mubarak that Suleiman (not The Magnificent) is our new bride.

        Mubarak is pissed and feels he’s betrayed and back-stabbed by us and by the israelis (living up to their international reputation eh?).

        Suleiman (The Mossadi) feels very bad for old bff Mubarak and assures him that he will not back-stab him no never, while crossing his fingers behind his back. Prove it to me, Mubarak demands. Okay I will, says S, I have an idea: why don’t you just ignore everyone and I mean EVERYONE and instead give Egypt one of your nice fatherly speeches – that’ll show who’s still boss eh. Mubarak is tearful and grateful for the advise of his bff who then wipes his tears for him with the Egyptian constitution, pulls out a comb from his back pocket and combs Mubarak’s hair to perfection for approx one hour, readying him up for the waiting cameras of the world – all the while Suleiman (The Extraordinary Renditioner) smiling darkly three inches behind his forehead.

        … Or some such Ibsenian melodrama indeed was taking place in the claustrophobic 11th hour, Potsy.

        Let’s see in the next few days if israel and america really still run the show in Egypt/mideast.

        One thing’s for sure, the empire/colony game in the mideast has been exposed before the eyes of the whole world and in our age of the internet, I’m betting it’s harder for politicians to get away with hypocrisy and so therefore with their evil plans.

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 10:06 am

        Clearly Mubarak is a greedy power monger. BUT the U.S. and Israel fed the monster in him for 30 years. I keep thinking of Mubarak singing the song why do you build me up buttercup just to take me down?

  23. VR
    February 10, 2011, 4:26 pm

    What will animals like Mubarak understand? We will soon find out, because you are not dealing with daisy’s here – but Revolutionary Socialists, in case you did not know it, the vanguard. I’m sorry it has come to this

    • Kathleen
      February 11, 2011, 10:09 am

      Clearly he understands the 40-70 billion that he has been able to fill his bank accounts with. Hey we fed the dark side and now you barely hear a mention of that in our MSM. As if every administration that fed the greed and corruption is innocent

  24. Chaos4700
    February 10, 2011, 4:27 pm

    Great, now that I’m setting myself up as Mr. Doom and Gloom for the day… Mubarak’s speech was less than… inspiring. To say the least.

    I’m thinking things are going through the hard way. It’s pretty clear Mubarak’s pride is going to get in the way of his common sense. Or survival instinct.

  25. CK MacLeod
    February 10, 2011, 4:46 pm

    It’s almost as though they were trying to provoke a violent reaction and/or justify a coup.

    • MHughes976
      February 10, 2011, 5:10 pm

      Yes, it does look just like that. The BBC has twice said that a statement by the Army Council is awaited. I can only think that this statement, on which the protesters are now pinning some hopes, has been pre-arranged with Mu to say that he must have another chance. Frank Wisner would, in that case, have done his work well.

  26. MHughes976
    February 10, 2011, 4:53 pm

    Well, how wrong can all these experts on the spot be? Lots of wishful thinking, I suppose – the crowd was convincing itself and it convinced the observers.
    The latest BBC reports indicate that the Army High Council is not necessarily accepting Mu’s demarche. But that may be yet more wishful thinking.
    The BBC is also interviewing as I write a young student who is saying that the intention of the crowd, or at least a part of it, is to disperse ‘and come back in the morning’. Will that be possible? Particularly as she also reports that the Army presence is increasing. Dreadful foreboding.

  27. Saleema
    February 10, 2011, 5:06 pm

    Somebody just kill me. :(

    • Chaos4700
      February 10, 2011, 9:01 pm

      Don’t give up yet, Saleema. I have a feeling Egyptians aren’t.

  28. Jim Haygood
    February 10, 2011, 5:09 pm

    Suleiman’s unscheduled speech afterward was even more disastrous than Mubarak’s. He unequivocally told the ‘youth’ (this after doctors, lawyers, judges, and other adults turned out to demonstrate) to stop listening to ‘satellite TV stations’ and go home.

    By seamlessly coordinating with Mubarak, Suleiman has conclusively disqualified himself from leading the transition period. Had he eased out Mubarak and maintained some independence, Suleiman might just have squeaked by. But now, by gravely insulting Egypt’s not-so-silent majority, Suleiman has sealed his fate.

    What a supreme irony, that Suleiman taunts the protesters for listening to ‘satellite TV,’ while he himself dances to the tune of the US and Israel — the ultimate foreign puppet. US politicians, by necessity, become skilled at false bonhomie. It was amply on display in Obama’s speech in Marquette, Michigan this afternoon, as the prez laid on the folksy flattery thicker than chunky peanut butter. By contrast, Egypt’s isolated, out-of-touch kleptocrats can’t fake the common touch to save their privileged lives … which may very well be what it’s coming down to, as Romania’s fleeing Ceausescus discovered one grim Christmas day.

    • Jim Haygood
      February 10, 2011, 5:16 pm

      To quote from a Parvez Sharma tweet which I saw after writing this:

      #Suleiman & #Mubarak R same person.

    • seafoid
      February 11, 2011, 1:48 am

      Mubarak’s insistence that he wouldn’t listen to foreigners was rich given his bending over for the Yanks over so many years.

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 10:13 am

        Hope someone with the skills does a clip of Mubarak singing this to one U.S. administration after the next singing “why do you build me up buttercup just to let me down”

        This tune is fitting for this situation

        Why do you build me up (Build me up)
        Buttercup baby just to
        let me down (Let me down)
        And mess me around
        And then worst of all (Worst of all)
        You never call baby
        When you say you will (Say you will)
        But I love you still
        I need you (I need you)
        More than anyone darlin’
        You know that I have from the start

    • Pixel
      February 11, 2011, 1:49 am

      >>> … stop listening to ‘satellite TV stations’ and go home.

      “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”
      . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . – Wizard of Oz

    • Citizen
      February 11, 2011, 6:27 am

      I like how you put that, JH, so I will repeat it here: “What a supreme irony, that Suleiman taunts the protesters for listening to ‘satellite TV,’ while he himself dances to the tune of the US and Israel — the ultimate foreign puppet. US politicians, by necessity, become skilled at false bonhomie. It was amply on display in Obama’s speech in Marquette, Michigan this afternoon, as the prez laid on the folksy flattery thicker than chunky peanut butter. By contrast, Egypt’s isolated, out-of-touch kleptocrats can’t fake the common touch to save their privileged lives …”

      The American MSM and TV news handles this by totally avoiding this supreme irony, i.e., by detaching the dots revealing that Mubarak’s whole 30 year tyranny was only made possible by America, and that
      Mubrak’s stashed 70 billion is his pension fund courtesy, ultimately, of the US taxpayers.

  29. Potsherd2
    February 10, 2011, 5:32 pm

    The real revolution begins now.

    • VR
      February 10, 2011, 8:33 pm

      Very perceptive of you Potsherd2

      • Citizen
        February 11, 2011, 6:32 am

        It comes down to the character of the conscript army, facing their enraged cousins in the streets of Egypt. Usually, once one or two freaked out soldiers fire, a volley will go off–the Youtube capture will go viral instantly. Obama will be caught on the toilet, scanning over Dennis Ross’s management update.

  30. Jim Haygood
    February 10, 2011, 5:40 pm

    Mapquest directions from Tahrir Square to the Presidential Palace in Heliopolis (several thousand marchers are reportedly on the way):

    Al Tahrir Sq.

    1. Head south on Al Tahrir Sq. toward Al Tahrir — 140 m
    2. Exit the traffic circle onto Talat Harb Rd — 400 m
    3. At Talaat Harb Sq., take the 1st exit onto Kasr Al Nile — 400 m
    4. Turn left at Sharif Basha — 180 m
    5. Take the 1st right onto Abd Al Khalek Sarwat — 450 m
    6. Slight left at Nafak Al Azhar — 2.8 km
    7. Continue onto Salah Salem — 800 m
    8. Slight left at Kobri Al Fangari — 800 m
    9. Continue onto Salah Salem — 1.3 km
    10. Keep left at the fork — 550 m
    11. Continue onto Salah Salem — 3.0 km
    12. Slight left at Nafak Al Orouba — 650 m
    13. Continue onto Al Oroba — 400 m
    14. Slight left to stay on Al Oroba — 300 m
    15. Turn right at Abd Al Salam Zaki — 300 m
    16. Take the 3rd right onto Ezoris — 94 m
    17. Turn left at Al Thawra — 300 m
    18. Turn right at Al Sayegh — 89 m
    19. Take the 1st left onto Al Somal — 12 m

    Cairo, Egypt

    link to

    • Jim Haygood
      February 10, 2011, 5:44 pm

      We are all Khaled Said Reports on thousands are marching from Tahrir to the presidential palace in Heliopolis (Masr AlGadeeda). The march is in Ramses now. Egyptian bedouins in Sinai have started attacking state security forces in Sinai.

      link to

  31. Gellian
    February 10, 2011, 5:43 pm

    Well, this development puts egg all over the face of the liberals around here.

    See, bad guys really are bad.

    Time for patriots to do what patriots need to do.

    • Chaos4700
      February 10, 2011, 9:04 pm

      While I’m not exactly pleased at you taking a snipe at liberals… you rather have a point about being too naive about Mubarak’s presumed departure. So I’ll let it pass without retort.

      • Antidote
        February 10, 2011, 11:28 pm

        Check out this naive liberal: Robert Kennedy reports from visit in (almost) Israel in March 48 (published in June)

        Not much on the Nakba here.

        But very impressed with the economic, cultural and military superiority of the Jews. Jewish state best hope for stabilizing ME and granting a ‘toehold’ in the region for US and UK. US must watch out for not ending up like the Brits, though, who, by 48, are intensely hated by both the Jews and the Arabs.

        Staunch supporter of Israel, like his brother (except for the nuclear weapons business), continuing through Six Day War. Then shot by an outraged Palestinian whose parole has just been denied for the 13th or 14th time.

        link to

      • Kathleen
        February 11, 2011, 10:15 am

        Yeah and his brother was the last President to demand that Israel open up to inspections of their nuclear, biological and chemical facilities.

    • Sumud
      February 10, 2011, 10:10 pm

      Well, this development puts egg all over the face of the liberals around here.

      Uh, why?

      • Gellian
        February 11, 2011, 5:02 am

        “Uh, why?”

        All I mean is that liberals, for all their great-sounding ideas and their big-heartedness, have to reckon with the fact that there are conservatives in this world. And that bad guys really do exist. Here’s one of them on full display. He’s not going anywhere without a big fight. And he may get his way — just look at Iran last year.

        That’s eternally the problem with liberalism. It’s not that it doesn’t sound fantastic or aspirational; of course it does! In that regard it’s like Marxism, which sounds like the solution to every problem in the world. The problem is that it just doesn’t work in the real world. And the reason it doesn’t work is because not everyone is a liberal. And a lot of those who aren’t liberals and don’t want to be, can be pretty rotten.

        This is why I disagree with the analysis of a lot of the folks around here who think the peaceful demonstrations are really the transformative thing they are.

        My fear now is for all those brave Egyptians who’ve shown up on TV or in print criticizing this regime.

        Was it Emerson who said, If you shoot at the king, you must kill the king? I think so. He had a hell of a point.

        Mubarak is playing brinkmanship with his life and that of his subjects, and peaceful demonstrations aren’t the way to win this game.

      • Sumud
        February 11, 2011, 6:14 am

        Hmm, Gellian ~ I don’t quite understand what you think liberals believe about Egypt; is it to do with non-violent protest?

        Actually, I’m not opposed to militant self-defence against a government which is subverting the rule of law. It’s a question of the best tactic for the situation. I think perhaps you have a wrong-headed idea of liberals as being off with the fairies.

        As I see it the adoption a largely non-violent platform has been a spectacular success for the protests in Egypt, and they aren’t over yet. By refusing to use violence the protestors have kept the army (mostly) on-side and created an empowering environment which all Egyptians feel comfortable joining.

        Outside Egpyt this platform has created overwhelming support for the Egyptians protestors. Have you seen the recent Gallup poll recounting 82% of Americans are sympathetic or very sympathetic to the protestors? Less than ten years after 9/11 (Ayman Al Zawahiri is, and M. Atta was, Egyptian) and after decades of islamophobic hasbara – culminating in the recent brouhaha about the Park 51 islamic centre – this is spectacular. The majority of the US population is opposed to Mubarak, and therefore opposed to US and Israeli policy with regard to Mubarak.

        I do share your concern that Mubarak will resort to further violence to try and suppress this uprising but to try this would be a huge risk and likely split the army. There are already multiple accounts of soldiers and officers putting down their weapons to join the protests. The groundswell of support in the US for the protestors is also putting Obama in an impossible position (ha ha) where he has to publicly side with them, despite the US’ long term support for Mubarak. And witness the howls from Tel Aviv that Obama is abandoning regional allies.

        Anyway – it’s not over yet. Ben Ali was deposed in Tunisia (just over 10% the population of Egypt) after one month of protests and 217 killed I believe. Egyptians haven’t shown any willingness to compromise, so I think the king [self-appointed pharoah] will be killed, or exiled at best.

  32. Citizen
    February 10, 2011, 5:57 pm

    When part of the crowd arrives at the state tv building; they’re moving now, the die will be cast; the issue is will the conscript ranks fire on the crowd, or not? It’s clear the brass will stay with Muraback under a mask; the vp has too much black mail material on all of them and they like their luxurious life style. Tommorrow the die will be cast.

  33. CK MacLeod
    February 10, 2011, 7:19 pm

    FWIW: George Friedman – whose analysis has been pretty good all along – is now saying that the military must effect a coup in the next several hours or, essentially, lose control.

  34. syvanen
    February 10, 2011, 7:38 pm

    It seems that many of these rumours about Mu’s departure emmanated from Washington. I think this is another piece of evidence that the US really has very little influence over events in Egypt — neither with the corrupt regime nor with the people.

    • Chaos4700
      February 10, 2011, 9:06 pm

      I perceive this as fallout from Netanyahu rebuking and thoroughly humiliating Obama. Why should Mubarak think the US will really abandon him now? We need him and his regime to keep Israel happy. So he called their bluff.

      Trouble for Mubarak, is he underestimates the strength of will of the people under his thumb.

      • Citizen
        February 11, 2011, 6:39 am

        30 years goes a long way to understand Mubarak’s POV & the USA’s during the same period.

    • Walid
      February 10, 2011, 10:01 pm

      syvanen, the rumours you are talking about are part of the overall American strategy. I don’t believe for a minute that the US is really telling or expecting Mubarak to go; now I understand what Obama’s silly giggling wa sall about during his Michigan TV speech tonight as he must have had just heard that Mubarak had decided to stay and fight.

      • Antidote
        February 10, 2011, 11:35 pm

        That’s my impression, too, Walid. Note Mubarak’s line about not giving in to ‘foreign pressure’. This is what it looks like: Obama predicts Mubarak will/should resign, and M. gives him the finger. Trying to impress his people as a patriot who is in nobody’s pocket and on the side of his people like a good father? And I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington was in on this. Presenting a fake rift between Mubarak/Obama and Obama/Netanyahu

    • pineywoodslim
      February 11, 2011, 12:02 am

      Could be just as possible that the stories were planted by the US in order to move things along.

  35. yourstruly
    February 10, 2011, 9:36 pm

    the tyrant’s words were mere road bumps

    once again

    a people united can never be defeated

    three hundred children of the nile did not die in vain

    egypt will be free and independent

    if friday the tyrant does not resign

    expect calls for the establishment of a provisional revolutionary government

    there is no turning the revolution back

    o to be in cairo rigbt now!

  36. Richard Witty
    February 10, 2011, 10:40 pm

    For real change to occur, it is necessary for dissenters to remain non-violent.

    All of the world’s goodwill, admiration, respect would dissolve quickly if the dissenters initiated more than incidental violence. If for example, Mubarak were to be assassinated or treated harmfully, it would confirm the most prejudicial attitudes of Arabs. And, it would give an excuse for the Egyptian security apparatus to apply violence themselves.

    The self-determination cultivated by non-violence as well as the respect of the world are the most important considerations.

    Please don’t encourage anger so much as determination. Substantive change will occur if people persevere non-violently.

    • Cliff
      February 11, 2011, 4:59 am

      Thank you Mohandas Witty.

    • Citizen
      February 11, 2011, 6:48 am

      It boils down to which way the junior officer corps goes when confronted with the now extremely frustrated masses in the street outside key regime buildings and their own nervous conscript troops. The Egyptians have not had a free and open election in 4,000 years. A contingent of Mubarak loyalists (and/or bribed criminals) and MB extremists dispersed in the crowd will try their best to set off Egyptian army triggers. Any subsequent regime crackdown depends on the enforcing will of the junior officer corps.

  37. VR
    February 11, 2011, 12:58 am

    I think if you really want to know what is going on that you need accurate information. Here is Mark LeVine direct from Cairo giving a report with Jon Weiner on KPFK, try to listen carefully. You should go 34 minutes into the broadcast –


    We should have known when US ships parked off the coast that this resistance was coming from Mubarak. In fact, it is covertly fully supported by the USA – and if not possible to have Mubarak, they want the Mubarak regime to survive.

    • Lydda Four Eight
      February 11, 2011, 2:31 am

      VR, I agree with you. I think the actions of the USA on MubaraK speaks for itself, just like with Palestine the US says one thing and does another. I am seeing the same exact empty words and horrifying actions. I also think the US is trying to walk a fine line so that the US at least looks like it supports democracy. When you bet on both teams at least one will win.

  38. MRW
    February 11, 2011, 3:27 am

    Check out this Algerian pub:

    A document reveals Mubarak’s assets in Switzerland
    link to

    link to

    • Citizen
      February 11, 2011, 6:53 am

      That’s quite a few Mubarak pension billions to add to the US taxpayers’ check to Israel over the years.

    • Kathleen
      February 11, 2011, 10:30 am

      Hope the MSM keeps digging into and following the foreign aid money to Egypt and add Israel to that list

  39. yourstruly
    February 11, 2011, 9:52 am

    february 11, 2011

    with an amazed and approving world looking on

    from alexandria to aswan

    the people of the nile retake the dawn


    by popular demand

  40. Kathleen
    February 11, 2011, 10:40 am

    At MSNBC

    Mubarak leaves Cairo as protesters march on palace
    U.S. officials tell NBC News that they believe the vice president is now running Egypt

  41. eljay
    February 11, 2011, 10:53 am

    >> Mubarak leaves Cairo as protesters march on palace

    He said he was a father, and Egyptians were his children, but in reality he was the dirty uncle who’s finally being confronted by the victims of his abuse.

    Bad uncle Hosni…

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