Palestine is MIA in NYT hail to the Arab protesters

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The New York Times record of protests across the Middle East ignores the nonviolent protests that have been going on for years in Palestine. But this is the heading:

Middle East Protests: A Country-by-Country Look

The latest reports from Times correspondents along with social media updates on the protest movements shaking countries across the Middle East and northern Africa.

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  1. Avi
    March 5, 2011, 3:20 pm

    I don’t think that’s an error.

    Wiener has made it clear that Israel’s borders extend from the Jordan River in the east to the Mediterranean Sea in the west.

    Since Israel is already a democracy, there was no need to include it in the article.


    I hope I helped clarify everything.

    Note how the NYT doesn’t provide a map for Djibouti. I guess they couldn’t locate it on their globe.

  2. pineywoodslim
    March 5, 2011, 8:00 pm

    What are the odds of Israel allowing live video by Al Jazeera of the weekly Bilin demonstrations?


  3. pabelmont
    March 5, 2011, 9:05 pm

    Right. And anyhow, Palestine has not been a country since the British withdrew, 5/15/1948. The fact of all those countries “recognizing” Palestine after the PLO declared it into “existence” in 1988 is a “So what?” Ditto the more recent recognitions (or, who knows, re-recognitions). Israel does not choose to recognize the existence of Palestine AS A COUNTRY and therefore neither can the NYT. As so understood, nothing wrong with the NYT article omitting Palestine. One may speculate whether or not Israel is Palestine, as I have done, but that is legal science fiction — I admit it. Also, while making admissions, I don’t WANT Israel to be Palestine.

  4. DBG
    March 6, 2011, 1:41 am

    Pablemont, Palestine has never been a country. Before the British they were occupied by the Ottomans.

    Rewriting history, Mondo style.

    • Avi
      March 6, 2011, 10:20 am

      DBG March 6, 2011 at 1:41 am

      Pablemont, Palestine has never been a country. Before the British they were occupied by the Ottomans.

      Rewriting history, Mondo style.

      The nation state model is a relatively new concept that has emerged in the last two centuries.

      Thus, to claim that there was never a Palestinian state — despite there being a Palestinian people — in an effort to justify their dispossession is absurd.

      Finally, there was never a state of Israel in so-called biblical times that resembles today’s Israel with the same borders.

      There were, however, separate Jewish ‘kingdoms’. A prominent Israeli archeologist and historian wrote that the boundaries of the Kingdom of David, for example, extended a day’s walk from the city of Jerusalem.

      In addition, if one were to go by biblical scriptures, the texts indicate that when the Hebrews escaped from Egypt, they came to the land of Canaan, which was at the time inhabited by Canaanites.

      So, the historical Jewish claim on the land is specious. And your arguments are child-like.

    • pabelmont
      March 6, 2011, 12:46 pm

      My understanding is that Mandatory Palestine was a “state”, a “country”, with its own passports, postage stamps, currency. People’s whose deposits rested in Barclay’s Bank in Palestine lost all their savings when Palestinian currency became worthless after 5/15/1948. That would not have been the case had the Barclay’s accounts been denominated in British pounds-sterling.

      A country is a country. Palestine had an imposed (and intended-to-be temporary) government. Japan did not stop being Japan when the USA occupied it and to some extent served as its government in 1945.

      That’s all I meant. I know some people like to say, as you say DBG that Palestine was not a country. Perhaps you meant to qualify it with “with its own rather than an imposed government.” Perhaps you meant that the (imposed) requirement of accepting Jewish immigration created a non-Palestinian-ishness to it.

      But never forget that the Symphony Orchestra of Jerusalem, before 1948, was called the Palestine Orchestra:

      Palestine Philharmonic Orchestra

      In 1929 Huberman first visited Palestine and developed his vision of establishing classical music in the Promised Land. In 1933, during the Nazis’ rise to power, Huberman declined invitations from Wilhelm Furtw√§ngler to return to preach a “musical peace”, but wrote instead an open letter to German intellectuals inviting them to remember their essential values. In 1936 he founded the Palestine Orchestra, which gave its first performance on 26 December with Arturo Toscanini conducting. This laid the foundations of the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, which, however, was not established until 1948, a year after Huberman’s death.

      (if there is anything in a name) (and is the NAME of a country that we are discussing here)!

  5. Citizen
    March 6, 2011, 5:27 am

    What the West can learn from the Arab revolt link to

  6. Kathleen
    March 6, 2011, 12:35 pm

    “The New York Times record of protests across the Middle East ignores the nonviolent protests that have been going on for years in Palestine”

    Of course the same on MSNBC (you know the liberal media) CNN, Fox, Cspan, NPR, Diane Rehm show, Talk of the Nation, Fresh Air and the rest. Not a whisper out of these sold out to the I lobby news outlets. Not a whisper. That tsunami of democracy covered by our MSM went from Tunisia, to Egypt right over to Iran. No I lobby influence there. Hell it appears that they do not even have to exert that influence any longer. Our MSM has been well trained for decades to self censor.

    Keep wondering if Dylan Ratigan took a beating for he and Greenwalds mopping up the floor with Cliff May and his lies
    link to

  7. Justice Please
    March 6, 2011, 5:34 pm

    Actually, couldn’t MondoWeiss create a similar map/gadget, with of course covering ALL the protests, not just the ones the NYT finds acceptable? Where, from Bilin to those BDS-protests Phil mentions in another post today, all the protests regarding Israel are added to those in Egypt etc.?

    That would be quite cool, and also would serve as a great tool through which to be less dependent on the agenda-setting of the NYT etc.

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