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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331808</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are grateful to the Institute for helping us to establish ourselves and grow in the years after the Gaza conflict, and for helping to publish our book on the Goldstone Report. We are especially thankful to Hamilton Fish, the former director of the Nation Institute, for his vision and bravery in bringing us in.&quot;

Yes thank you to the nation institute for supporting Mondoweiss. Congratulations on the new partnership</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are grateful to the Institute for helping us to establish ourselves and grow in the years after the Gaza conflict, and for helping to publish our book on the Goldstone Report. We are especially thankful to Hamilton Fish, the former director of the Nation Institute, for his vision and bravery in bringing us in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes thank you to the nation institute for supporting Mondoweiss. Congratulations on the new partnership</p>
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		<title>By: eGuard</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331645</link>
		<dc:creator>eGuard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;Jewish&quot; ended up in the CERSC description not by accident. What I can trust: at the end of the day, a contribution will be jugded by the jewishness of its author. Already, patm did so in the morning of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;Jewish&#8221; ended up in the CERSC description not by accident. What I can trust: at the end of the day, a contribution will be jugded by the jewishness of its author. Already, patm did so in the morning of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: lobewyper</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331631</link>
		<dc:creator>lobewyper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I cancelled my comment--sorry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I cancelled my comment&#8211;sorry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stevieb</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331526</link>
		<dc:creator>stevieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331335</link>
		<dc:creator>annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, nobody said mondoweiss &lt;i&gt;merely&lt;/i&gt; offered a progressive jewish prospective. it says &#039;chiefly from a jewish prospective&#039; and that makes sense because both adam and phil are jewish. they don&#039;t leave their jewishness at the door and one of phil&#039;s goals is to stimulate a much needed dialogue within the jewish community. it&#039;s an honest assessment and i&#039;ve always admired and valued the honesty and guts published here, whether it come from a jewish, arab or any other perspective.

people can&#039;t divorce themselves from who they are or their origins nor should they. i&#039;m all for embracing those origins and recognizing how who we are impacts and in many cases empowers us. let&#039;s not find offense where there&#039;s no imperative to be offended. i&#039;m all over these threads and i&#039;m not jewish and nothing about that introduction offends me in the least. 

i wake up everyday grateful this site is here. so whether it is an american door or a jewish door i&#039;m walking thru it makes no difference to me, the door is open and welcoming. let&#039;s not quibble on this celebratory thread. we&#039;re all mondoweiss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, nobody said mondoweiss <i>merely</i> offered a progressive jewish prospective. it says &#8216;chiefly from a jewish prospective&#8217; and that makes sense because both adam and phil are jewish. they don&#8217;t leave their jewishness at the door and one of phil&#8217;s goals is to stimulate a much needed dialogue within the jewish community. it&#8217;s an honest assessment and i&#8217;ve always admired and valued the honesty and guts published here, whether it come from a jewish, arab or any other perspective.</p>
<p>people can&#8217;t divorce themselves from who they are or their origins nor should they. i&#8217;m all for embracing those origins and recognizing how who we are impacts and in many cases empowers us. let&#8217;s not find offense where there&#8217;s no imperative to be offended. i&#8217;m all over these threads and i&#8217;m not jewish and nothing about that introduction offends me in the least. </p>
<p>i wake up everyday grateful this site is here. so whether it is an american door or a jewish door i&#8217;m walking thru it makes no difference to me, the door is open and welcoming. let&#8217;s not quibble on this celebratory thread. we&#8217;re all mondoweiss!</p>
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		<title>By: patm</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331334</link>
		<dc:creator>patm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m going to regret this, irishmoses, but aren&#039;t both &quot;Jewish&quot; and &quot;progressive&quot; modifying the noun &quot;perspective&quot;?

The perspective at mondo in my view is quite plain: to day- after-day document Israeli atrocities towards Palestinians and to publish news, opinion, and dicussion that drive forward the goals of getting rid of the Occupation, and the Zionist Lobby in America.

I appreciate what you and eGuard are getting at:  the sense of Jewish exceptionalism and entitlement that is seen every day on mondo and that drives righteous Jews and non-Jews wild.

But this demented perspective is not the perspective that Phil and Adam have chosen.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m going to regret this, irishmoses, but aren&#8217;t both &#8220;Jewish&#8221; and &#8220;progressive&#8221; modifying the noun &#8220;perspective&#8221;?</p>
<p>The perspective at mondo in my view is quite plain: to day- after-day document Israeli atrocities towards Palestinians and to publish news, opinion, and dicussion that drive forward the goals of getting rid of the Occupation, and the Zionist Lobby in America.</p>
<p>I appreciate what you and eGuard are getting at:  the sense of Jewish exceptionalism and entitlement that is seen every day on mondo and that drives righteous Jews and non-Jews wild.</p>
<p>But this demented perspective is not the perspective that Phil and Adam have chosen.</p>
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		<title>By: lobewyper</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331329</link>
		<dc:creator>lobewyper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irishmoses wrote,

&quot;While issues of religion and tribalism are certainly part of the I-P debate, I’ve always felt Mondoweiss was about truth and that one’s religion or tribe (or lack of) had no place in the debate. Perhaps I’m naïve, but I’ve always thought Mondoweiss was inclusive and non-tribal.&quot;

I&#039;ve also felt that Mondoweiss was (and remains) about truth. Unfortunately, the tribal (collective) mentality is a significant feature of being Jewish, in the sense that if one is a Jew, one should not criticize fellow Jews--a feature which figures prominently in the I-P debate. (Note that another aspect of the tribal mentality is that a Jew should refrain from actions that could subject the group to criticism by non-Jews--a feature that the Israeli desire for the lands of others has conveniently overridden.)

As you know, Phil and Adam have very courageously addressed both of these collective injunctions as have many others (Jews and non-Jews) here on Mondoweiss. 

As have you, I have always felt that both Jews and non-Jews who seek a fair and just setttlement of the conflict are welcome here, and that both will be needed in large numbers to turn the tide.

I also agree that  Mondoweiss&#039;s mission is far more than merely to offer a &quot;progressive Jewish&quot; perspective and that to describe it as such could be seen as offensive by many Mondoweiss readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishmoses wrote,</p>
<p>&#8220;While issues of religion and tribalism are certainly part of the I-P debate, I’ve always felt Mondoweiss was about truth and that one’s religion or tribe (or lack of) had no place in the debate. Perhaps I’m naïve, but I’ve always thought Mondoweiss was inclusive and non-tribal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also felt that Mondoweiss was (and remains) about truth. Unfortunately, the tribal (collective) mentality is a significant feature of being Jewish, in the sense that if one is a Jew, one should not criticize fellow Jews&#8211;a feature which figures prominently in the I-P debate. (Note that another aspect of the tribal mentality is that a Jew should refrain from actions that could subject the group to criticism by non-Jews&#8211;a feature that the Israeli desire for the lands of others has conveniently overridden.)</p>
<p>As you know, Phil and Adam have very courageously addressed both of these collective injunctions as have many others (Jews and non-Jews) here on Mondoweiss. </p>
<p>As have you, I have always felt that both Jews and non-Jews who seek a fair and just setttlement of the conflict are welcome here, and that both will be needed in large numbers to turn the tide.</p>
<p>I also agree that  Mondoweiss&#8217;s mission is far more than merely to offer a &#8220;progressive Jewish&#8221; perspective and that to describe it as such could be seen as offensive by many Mondoweiss readers.</p>
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		<title>By: irishmoses</title>
		<link>http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/site-news-introducing-mondoweisss-new-home.html/comment-page-1#comment-331265</link>
		<dc:creator>irishmoses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 03:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I think eGuard&#039;s point is well-taken.  The key term was Jewish, modified by the term progressive.  The I-P issue is a Jewish problem abetted by fawning, unquestioning and massive US financial and political support.  Mondoweiss, with the support of what I see as a relatively small minority of righteous Jews and righteous non-Jews is making a valiant but still largely marginal attempt to change this ghastly situation.    While some of the dialogue on Mondoweiss deals with important &quot;Jewish&quot; issues as they relate to I-P, most of the dialogue involves debate over factual and legal issues that transcend religion and its inherent irrationality, and deal with issues of US policy and politics in the Middle East, including the I-P issue.  The proponents of these positions don&#039;t deserve to have their positions characterized as stemming from some irrational religious or tribal perspective, be it Jewish, Muslim or Christian.  

I suspect many Jews who participate might also find it insulting to have their intellectual contributions characterized (or minimized) as progressively Jewish, just as I would not want mine characterized (and thereby diminished) as progressively atheist, or progressively Irish-Catholic.  I also don’t think that the many non-Jewish contributors to Mondoweiss, Muslim, Christian, Atheist and other, will take kindly to it being described as having a progressive Jewish perspective which comes across as exclusive.  While issues of religion and tribalism are certainly part of the I-P debate, I’ve always felt Mondoweiss was about truth and that one’s religion or tribe (or lack of) had no place in the debate.  Perhaps I’m naïve, but I’ve always thought Mondoweiss was inclusive and non-tribal.  

In any case, congratulations, it sounds like a good fit.  You might want to work on that site description though.  It seems too exclusive and too tribal unless you see yourselves competing with Tablet, Jewish Daily Forward and +972 rather than part of the larger fray including Atlantic, Daily Beast, Salon, Politico, etc.  I hope you have set your sights higher than that of another Jewish news outlet, as good as those other publications are.  To win this war, your audience needs to be not just Jewish America, but Middle America which is at least 30 times larger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I think eGuard&#8217;s point is well-taken.  The key term was Jewish, modified by the term progressive.  The I-P issue is a Jewish problem abetted by fawning, unquestioning and massive US financial and political support.  Mondoweiss, with the support of what I see as a relatively small minority of righteous Jews and righteous non-Jews is making a valiant but still largely marginal attempt to change this ghastly situation.    While some of the dialogue on Mondoweiss deals with important &#8220;Jewish&#8221; issues as they relate to I-P, most of the dialogue involves debate over factual and legal issues that transcend religion and its inherent irrationality, and deal with issues of US policy and politics in the Middle East, including the I-P issue.  The proponents of these positions don&#8217;t deserve to have their positions characterized as stemming from some irrational religious or tribal perspective, be it Jewish, Muslim or Christian.  </p>
<p>I suspect many Jews who participate might also find it insulting to have their intellectual contributions characterized (or minimized) as progressively Jewish, just as I would not want mine characterized (and thereby diminished) as progressively atheist, or progressively Irish-Catholic.  I also don’t think that the many non-Jewish contributors to Mondoweiss, Muslim, Christian, Atheist and other, will take kindly to it being described as having a progressive Jewish perspective which comes across as exclusive.  While issues of religion and tribalism are certainly part of the I-P debate, I’ve always felt Mondoweiss was about truth and that one’s religion or tribe (or lack of) had no place in the debate.  Perhaps I’m naïve, but I’ve always thought Mondoweiss was inclusive and non-tribal.  </p>
<p>In any case, congratulations, it sounds like a good fit.  You might want to work on that site description though.  It seems too exclusive and too tribal unless you see yourselves competing with Tablet, Jewish Daily Forward and +972 rather than part of the larger fray including Atlantic, Daily Beast, Salon, Politico, etc.  I hope you have set your sights higher than that of another Jewish news outlet, as good as those other publications are.  To win this war, your audience needs to be not just Jewish America, but Middle America which is at least 30 times larger.</p>
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		<title>By: David Samel</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Samel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam and Phil - Best of luck in your new home.  I&#039;m sure that the site will continue to grow and stimulate and be more and more successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam and Phil &#8211; Best of luck in your new home.  I&#8217;m sure that the site will continue to grow and stimulate and be more and more successful.</p>
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		<title>By: yourstruly</title>
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		<dc:creator>yourstruly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a new home for mw?

for getting the word out?

for changing the world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a new home for mw?</p>
<p>for getting the word out?</p>
<p>for changing the world</p>
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