Ron Paul blasts ‘transparently one-sided’ Congress on Israel/Palestine

Israel/Palestine
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Ron Paul’s statement yesterday on that Congressional resolution opposing the Palestinian statehood initiative in the U.N. and opposing Hamas-Fatah reconciliation:  

Mr. Speaker I rise in opposition to this resolution. While I certainly share the hope for peace in the Middle East and a solution to the ongoing conflict, I do not believe that peace will result if we continue to do the same things while hoping for different results.  The US has been involved in this process for decades, spending billions of dollars we do not have, yet we never seem to get much closer to a solution. I believe the best solution is to embrace non-interventionism, which allows those most directly involved to solve their own problems.

This resolution not only further entangles the US in the Israeli/Palestinian dispute, but it sets out the kind of outcome the United States would accept in advance. While I prefer our disengagement from that conflict, I must wonder how the US expects to be seen as an “honest broker” when it dictates the terms of a solution in such a transparently one-sided manner.

In the resolution before us, all demands are made of only one side in the conflict. Do supporters of this resolution really believe the actors in the Middle East and the rest of the world do not notice? We do no favors to the Israelis or to the Palestinians when we involve ourselves in such a manner and block any negotiations that may take place without US participation. They have the incentives to find a way to live in peace and we must allow them to find that solution on their own.  As always, congressional attitudes toward the peace process in the Middle East reveal hubris and self-importance. Only those who must live together in the Middle East can craft a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine.

58 Responses

  1. James
    July 7, 2011, 12:33 pm

    i like ron paul, but he doesn’t go far enough in saying it like it is….

    just come out and say it ron paul – the usa is a hypocrit when it comes to the i/p issue.. the usa congress has taken israels side for so long people have lost track!

    • pineywoodslim
      July 7, 2011, 12:40 pm

      I thought this language was pretty clear on the “hypocrite” concerns you express:

      “While I prefer our disengagement from that conflict, I must wonder how the US expects to be seen as an “honest broker” when it dictates the terms of a solution in such a transparently one-sided manner.

      In the resolution before us, all demands are made of only one side in the conflict. Do supporters of this resolution really believe the actors in the Middle East and the rest of the world do not notice?”

  2. eljay
    July 7, 2011, 12:36 pm

    Once again, I cannot help but admire Ron Paul.

    • American
      July 7, 2011, 1:50 pm

      He doesn’t go far enough. He is one who has a stage and would be given as much time as he wants to spell it out. He should lay it all out, the whole ball of wax; the aid, the schemes, the off the books billions, AIPAC, the Israelis in congress and the bills they pass strictly for Israel… the financial cost, the lost opportunity cost, the reputation cost, the international relations cost, the arm twisting the US has to do abroad for Israel that engenders anti US sentiment, the Israel slanted media corruption in the US cost…ALL of it.

      If only I could be President for 30 days….(sigh). It would all be over.

    • Robert Werdine
      July 7, 2011, 7:51 pm

      Ron Paul is a naif.

      • Chaos4700
        July 7, 2011, 9:18 pm

        Zionist = troll. Pretty much always.

      • eGuard
        July 8, 2011, 4:23 am

        Chaos, was it you that noted a year ago that we at Mondoweiss only get the minor trolls? You know, those just starting, underpaid hasbarists, with the pre-composed OT talking points. I wonder where they go when they are promoted. Sure this one is to become ambassador.

      • Mooser
        July 8, 2011, 11:48 am

        E-guard, I am convinced that Hophmi (and the others) is trying to promote Zionism in a very clever way. He’s trying to convince non-Jews that Jews are awful people. He has a maniacal devotion to proving that Jews cannot possibly live on terms of equality with others. Proving this, he fervently hopes, will encourage governments in turning Jews over to Israel, and the dictatorship of the Zionists.

      • Chaos4700
        July 9, 2011, 2:43 pm

        I wonder where they go when they are promoted.

        Huffington Post. I speak from experience. And no, they don’t get any more sophisticated, they just get good at spamming at a faster rate when there’s more of them working in concert.

      • Citizen
        July 9, 2011, 6:54 am

        Just so we know why you think so, Werdine, give us a few examples of a US Congress person you don’t think is a naif.

  3. GringoDingo
    July 7, 2011, 12:41 pm

    “I do not believe that peace will result if we continue to do the same things while hoping for different results. ”

    US’s stance on the Israel/Palestine over the last 50 years, in a nutshell.

    • Tobias
      July 7, 2011, 8:52 pm

      He is absolutely right, a rare voice of reason inside the lunatic asylum.

      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

  4. Les
    July 7, 2011, 12:53 pm

    It doesn’t come even close to hinting at how one-sided US policy has been. This is hardly a daring message from such an “independent” as Ron Paul.

  5. Dan Crowther
    July 7, 2011, 1:29 pm

    Doesnt Ron Ron know that the only way Jesus can come back to earth is if the Jews control all the land from the Med to the Jordan river? Somehow I think someone from his district will remind him of that…….

    • mig
      July 7, 2011, 4:43 pm

      I cant remember Jesus mentioned in any UN resolutions about I/P issue…. ;)

  6. Richard Witty
    July 7, 2011, 1:39 pm

    Things aren’t the same in Israel/Palestine.

    While with likud in power, the peace process is unduly stalled, it has made enormous progress over the years, and could complete the circle if determined.

    Ron Paul is wrong. His professions doom the region to continued war, triangulation, opportunism.

    Aren’t Palestinians and solidarity trying the same things over and over as well. Do you not start to think?

    • eljay
      July 7, 2011, 1:52 pm

      >> Ron Paul is wrong.

      Yes, of course, he forgot to blame Hamas. Damn you, Hamas!!!

      >> Aren’t Palestinians and solidarity trying the same things over and over as well.

      So, what are Israel and Zio-supremacism doing differently these days to “humanize ‘the Other'” and to “make ‘better wheels'”?

    • Dan Crowther
      July 7, 2011, 2:01 pm

      Enormous progress. That statement just about says it all.

      So the Likud merely “stalls progress” but some guy from Texas, on his own, “dooms the region to continued war……”

      So, the next time the Israeli’s kill a bunch of people in cold blood, place your blame with Ron Paul, but certainly not Bibi and Co.

      Your a P.O.S. Witty.

      • Richard Witty
        July 7, 2011, 3:37 pm

        Dan,
        I never knew that I was a “point of sale”.

        Thanks for informing me of that.

        Lighten up your language. It is possible to disagree vehemently with the man and his proposals.

      • nmi
        July 7, 2011, 6:50 pm

        Actually, richard–it stands for piece of shit.

        He was calling you a piece of shit, not a point of sale.

      • Richard Witty
        July 7, 2011, 8:52 pm

        NMI,
        Your not very swift if you thought that I didn’t understand that.

        Its much more of a comment about Dan Crowther, and now you.

        And, of the site, that they would let a comment like that through, but historically censor actual content.

      • Dan Crowther
        July 8, 2011, 8:50 am

        Witty is apparently from the “Dick Cheney/Richard Perle” school – thats where you say the most evil things imaginable, but you do so in a calm,”respectful” way and people think your a principled person.

        Witty of course doesnt respond to the thrust of my argument, which was that he now places Ron Paul’s speech in the long line of things “blocking peace” – so now Ron Paul will have to apologize for Israel to make peace. Witty actually goes one step further, saying Paul “dooms the region” with his speech. Like I said, one clown from Texas “dooms the region,” apparently more so than continued military occupation does……..
        This is all part of the same Zionist nonsense, you have to “talk nice”
        “focus on the conversation” – “have a dialogue” blah blah blah blah blah………sometimes you got to call a spade a spade – and some dude probably in a starbucks sippin a latte thinking of a non-threatening way to support some of the worst things humanity has to offer really is a …..point of sale.

      • Mooser
        July 8, 2011, 11:52 am

        “And, of the site, that they would let a comment like that through, but historically censor actual content.”

        No doubt you have a hundred examples of this! Well, can you come up with ten? Well, one, maybe?

        Yeah, Witty, I think POS is about the right description for someone who claims to be a friend, but immediately accuses him (or his site) of the worst kind of Journalistic sins and lack of ethics as soon as you don’t agree.

        Gosh, Richard, don’t you wish you could get away from this awful place? How much ransom is Phil demanding before he will untie you and let you walk free?

    • annie
      July 7, 2011, 6:39 pm

      it has made enormous progress over the years

      richard please spare us these delusions.

    • Sumud
      July 7, 2011, 7:13 pm

      Aren’t Palestinians and solidarity trying the same things over and over as well.

      No Richard, you need to own this. It is stubborn dogmatic zionists who are determined that under no circumstances a Palestinian state should come into existence. It has been this way since before 1948. The approach does not vary. Labour, Likud, Kadima. They’re all the same.

      Palestinians have been incredibly creative and tried a variety of approaches. They have overcome Israel’s attempt to exterminate their nationality. BDS is just six years old and going great.

      • Richard Witty
        July 7, 2011, 8:54 pm

        The efforts of solidarity look much much more repetitive and static than the relations between the PLO and Israel.

        I think my observation is more commonly held than uncommon.

        I would hope that it would make dissent begin to question.

        BDS is 63 years old, Sumud.

      • Donald
        July 7, 2011, 10:31 pm

        “BDS is 63 years old, Sumud.”

        This is Richard’s way of blaming other people for Israel’s 63 year record of cruelty.

      • Richard Witty
        July 8, 2011, 5:00 am

        Its my way of saying that raging dissent (rather than thinking) has utterly failed at accomplishing Palestinian improvement.

        That EVERY party in Israel now has officially endorsed the concept of a Palestinian state is VERY different than even immediately after Oslo.

        To realize, it takes investment in the concept, which neither then dissenting left, dissenting left-right, nor the Israeli right are willing to do.

        So, it stays stuck by a conspiracy of the fanatics, suppressing the conspiracy of the thinkers, of the humane.

        And yes, Hamas does possess a veto on peace, is routinely exercising it, and you are lapping it up.

        And yes, likud has a veto on peace and distorts rational efforts for rational policy.

        The moderate view is the correct one, not one of the three or four nutty.

    • Haytham
      July 7, 2011, 8:59 pm

      While with likud in power, the peace process is unduly stalled, it has made enormous progress over the years, and could complete the circle if determined. -Richard Witty

      Witty, as usual, you are totally dishonest. If you were Pinochio, your nose would probably extend to my house by now. There is nothing worse, when discussing this subject, than those (you) that are so totally dishonest as to almost completely shut down debate due to the shock, frustration and incredulity that naturally follows your every post.

      In his last address to the Israelil Knesset, upon ratification of the Israel-Palestinian Interim Agreement (Oslo Accords), he [Yitzhak Rabin] clearly stated his understanding of Israel’s position in the agreement:
      1. No Palestinian state…ever
      2. No return to the 1967 borders
      3. Israeli control of the Jordan Valley
      4. Gush Katif as the model in the establishment of Jewish settlement blocks in Judea, Samaria and Gaza
      5. ALL settlements remain intact during the interim period, including building for natural growth
      6. Responsibility for security along the Egyptian and Jordanian borders, airspace over all the territories and Gaza, and the Gaza Strip maritime zone remains in Israeli hands

      By the way, Witty, it has been documented that more settlement units have been authorized/built under Labor rule than under Likud. I don’t have the time or patience to search for the cite right now, but I can find it later if you are interested.

      Witty, I beseech you, with the utmost sincerity, please stop posting outrageous lies, white lies, stop obfuscating, stop playing the part of the incredibly naive village idiot and stop generally muddying up the waters of Mondoweiss. If you cannot do this, you should be a man of honor and immediately stop posting here.

      • Richard Witty
        July 8, 2011, 5:02 am

        Haytham,
        The irony of your post is that it proves my point, that enormous progress has been made.

        Per the Palestine Papers, Olmert and Abbas were square miles away from a deal, having overcome almost every other objection.

        Likud went backwards. Hamas went backwards.

        To me it seems like dissent, as represented here, is committed to the slogan – “Backwards ever, forward never”.

      • Shingo
        July 8, 2011, 7:18 am

        Likud went backwards. Hamas went backwards.

        Kadima was in power when the Palestine Papers reported Israel’s rejectionsism. Hence Likud has not gone backwards at all.

      • Richard Witty
        July 8, 2011, 8:10 am

        The Palestine Papers reported a give and take in which both sides heard the others’ concerns and revised proposals accordingly.

        Two conversations away, likely.

        Abandoned for the “greater good” by a conspiracy of opportunism. (Hamas, militant Palestinian solidarity, likud all working together for the common end of no peace.)

      • Haytham
        July 8, 2011, 8:17 am

        No, Witty, the irony is that your reply contained the same type of deceitful obfuscation that you rely on.

        Not only did you not reply to, let alone refute, a single one of my points, you went on to assert more lies.

        It is clear to me that you are not naive, misinformed or displaying some strange hybrid of optimism and ignorance. As has been pointed out to you by many who comment here, your game is to blame, blame, blame the victim and absolve, absolve, absolve the oppressor. This is the only point you ever make. If you didn’t set out to post here with that as your goal, you would literally have nothing to say.

      • Shingo
        July 8, 2011, 8:47 am

        The Palestine Papers reported a give and take in which both sides heard the others’ concerns and revised proposals accordingly.

        Very true. The Palestinians gave, the Israelis took and havign heard the Palestinians, the Israelis (under Kadima) said no.

        Two conversations away, likely.

        If you think that saying thanks but no thanks is a conversation.

        Abandoned for the “greater good” by a conspiracy of opportunism

        The geater good of what? A greater Israel?

        Seriously Witty, I hopue someone is paying you a lot of money to look like such an impotent wind bag on this forum.

    • Chaos4700
      July 7, 2011, 9:19 pm

      So now Ron Paul is to blame for what Israel is doing?! Holy. Crap. Seriously. Are you just trying to force everyone to not take you seriously, now?

    • MarkF
      July 8, 2011, 8:40 am

      He’s wrong that the resolution is one-sided?

      He’s wrong that we have been pouring billions into I/P that we don’t have?

      He’s wrong that the resolution predetermines an outcome prior to negotiations?

      He’s wrong to say we’ve been doing the same thing for years, and even though the situation has “changed”, we’ve done nothing to make it better?

      He’s wrong to try to extricate ourselves from a situation that’s harming Americans both physically and financially?

      “He’s wrong”. And he’s wrong because his plan has been tried and failed? Or maybe a better statement might be, “I disagree with him because….”

    • Citizen
      July 9, 2011, 7:03 am

      Ron Paul is right. His professions lay out the reality that the US has not been, nor is it now, an “honest broker” in the region wrt the I-P situation. Witty’s specious logic portrays a “special relationship” with a nuclear-armed HAMAS desperately trying to get Little David with his sling-shot to sit at a peace table.

  7. American
    July 7, 2011, 1:39 pm

    Open this link only if you have a strong stomach and can contain yourself.

    link to fas.org

    The 2010 Congressional Report on Aid to Israel.

    And read the foot notes, they tell what wasn’t included in the totals.
    And pay attention to page 19 for a good example of Israeli sucker schemes with US R&D like the BIRD Foundation, which you can get the dirt on thru your own research.

    • RoHa
      July 7, 2011, 9:52 pm

      #Sums like these don’t grow on trees!
      You’ve got to pick a pocket or two, boys.
      You’ve got to pick a pocket or two.”

      (Lionel Bart, Oliver!)

  8. lobewyper
    July 7, 2011, 2:42 pm

    Mr. Paul couldn’t have made his statement even a year ago without risking political suicide. His remarks add significantly to existing demands that this country seriously reconsider its policy toward I-P. We are making progresss, slowly but surely!

  9. alfa
    July 7, 2011, 4:00 pm

    I can only hope the middle east media picks up on this, perhaps some of you know how to contact Al Jazeera, Maan, Haaretz, etc.
    I’m damn proud to say I voted for him when he ran for President in 1988, tried to assist his campaign in 08 and this year. Honest men are a rarity in American politics.

  10. cjs2
    July 7, 2011, 4:12 pm

    Meanwhile in Canada, home of the other special relationship…

    A parliamentary committee alleges that anti-semitism is on the rise in universities, mostly because of criticism of Israel.

    Of course, dissenting groups were not allowed to contribute to these findings, nor were the sources of funding for the study it produced disclosed.

    Over a thousand comments at globeandmail.ca; I’ve had a hard time finding any that could not see through this transparent pro-Israel idiocy:

    link to theglobeandmail.com

    • James
      July 7, 2011, 6:32 pm

      well i am a canuck and see the harper gov’t as a rubber stamp for all things neo con which would include israels bullshit too… i think there are many canucks very aware of our developing role to challenge the usa as lead hypocrit! harper is trying hard, but we are still running 2nd as i see it!

    • Chaos4700
      July 7, 2011, 9:20 pm

      If they try to suppress free speech on Canadian campuses, there will be a riot. Probably literally.

    • RoHa
      July 7, 2011, 10:00 pm

      Hey! What do you mean, “the other special relationship”? There are more than just two, you know.

      Right here in Australia we’ve got a fine collection of toadies and arse-lickers in our Government, all ready to bend over for Israel. *

      And there is no shortage of them in Britain and other European countries.

      So don’t be so cocky. You’re just being anti-Australian. And anti- a few others, as well.

      (*Am I over-mixing my metaphors?)

  11. Taxi
    July 7, 2011, 5:03 pm

    Is America subconsciously trying to dumb israel?
    link to jta.org

    • Taxi
      July 7, 2011, 5:21 pm

      I meant ‘DUMP’ israel.

      • RoHa
        July 7, 2011, 10:04 pm

        It’s Israel that tries to dumb America.

  12. stopaipac
    July 7, 2011, 5:52 pm

    Cong Moran appears to be the only other congressperson to voice any concerns about this res, besides Ron Paul. and it still is a very lopsided statement. (why not complain that extremists are now a major part of the US govt, and it therefore loses any credibility to act in regard to Middle East?)
    Here is his statement, such as it is, as gleaned from the Congressional Record. All others, with the exception of Ron Pauls, were messages of support of 268.
    Mr. MORAN. I thank my very good friend from California for yielding
    me the time.
    Madam Speaker, the Middle East peace process is at risk of collapse,
    and I believe that only American leadership can save it. Both sides can
    and should do more to restart negotiations.
    House Resolution 268, despite the fact that it has virtually
    unanimous support from this body and includes a laudable reaffirmation
    of the United States’ commitment to a negotiated solution to the
    conflict, in fact falls short of the kind of leadership that I believe
    is needed. This resolution chastises the Palestinians for seeking to
    bridge the divide in their own community and for pursuing recognition
    of their state at the United Nations.
    On the first point, I think we should give the Palestinian Authority,
    which has done an impressive job of developing institutions and its
    economy in the West Bank, some credit. They have tried to provide the
    leadership to pursue the goals that we have encouraged them to do; and
    they have, I think, done so in terms of developing democratic
    institutions in a way that we should be proud of because we had a role
    in that, a major role.
    There is no indication they have any inclination to allow Hamas to
    jeopardize those gains that have been achieved in the West Bank. And
    thus far the reconciliation agreement between Hamas and Fatah has yet
    to yield any progress on a unity government. In fact, at this point it
    is unclear that it really will. So in many ways, the purpose for
    bringing forth this resolution is moot.

    [[Page H4631]]

    Should Hamas be invited to join a Palestinian unity government
    without accepting the conditions of The Quartet, the European Union,
    the United Nations, United States, Russia, those are the
    internationally designated bodies that have come forward with an
    agreement we have agreed to, if they invite Hamas to join a coalition
    government without accepting the conditions that we insist upon, it
    will have very serious implications for our relationship. And that
    should be the reason why we should cut off financial aid.
    In 2006, Palestinian elections, which in fact were advanced by the
    Bush administration, are what brought Hamas into power. In reaction,
    the United States, as well as The International Quartet, suspended
    assistance to the Palestinian Authority. And the Obama administration
    is continuing that policy. There is no aid going to Gaza.
    We need to recognize that Palestinian unity is crucial to a long-term
    peace. Gaza’s separation from the West Bank, though, has made it
    impossible to advance meaningful negotiations with Israel.
    Madam Speaker, there is insufficient time to lay out the other
    argument.
    The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time of the gentleman has expired.
    Mr. BERMAN. Madam Speaker, I yield the gentleman an additional 15
    seconds.
    Mr. MORAN. Madam Speaker, there is insufficient time to lay out the
    other side to what has been presented. I don’t particularly have strong
    disagreement with many of the points that have been made, but I do
    think there is another perspective to this. It ought to be advanced in
    this body.
    I thank my good friend for yielding me the time.

  13. RoHa
    July 7, 2011, 9:47 pm

    “Do supporters of this resolution really believe the actors in the Middle East and the rest of the world do not notice?”

    Do US Congressmen know anything about the rest of the world? Do they ever think about the rest of the world? And if they do, do they think that the rest of the world shares their ignorance and indifference?

  14. ToivoS
    July 7, 2011, 10:55 pm

    I came close to supporting Paul in 2004 and 2008. His stand on foreign policy issues are right on. Unfortunately, I balked at his insistence on returning the US to the gold standard. This is totally nuts.

    As incomprehensible as it seems and even as dysfunctional it also appears to be on occasion, fiat currency is the reality. To insist on changing this with some kind of simple minded solution will only lead to total economic collapse.

  15. Eva Smagacz
    July 8, 2011, 2:19 am

    Surely, if Ron Paul was to become president, he would be more able to implement foreign policy, which is Presidential prerogative, than financial and social reforms which he would have to persuade House of Representatives and Congress to vote through?

    So Ron Paul as president is much more likely to achieve his aim of “letting Israel go” than that of return to gold standard.

  16. mhuizenga
    July 8, 2011, 4:42 am

    This guy has too much integrity to ever really matter at the presidential level. e.g. Even if he did win the presidency he would still have to work with the congress and well… we know what that is like. I still gave him my token vote in the last election primaries. I feel down. Any ideas?

  17. seafoid
    July 8, 2011, 5:56 am

    Ron Paul spawned Rand . Who is a corporate whore.

    There is little decency in Congress.

    • AngelaKeaton
      July 8, 2011, 11:49 am

      So what if Rand Paul is a corporate whore? What does that have to do with his father’s very tough but not overly provocative position? So the father is the son? It’s this sort of ancestor worship-blood ‘ties’ superstition nonsense that got us into this mess.

  18. pookieross
    July 8, 2011, 9:02 am

    Can’t wait to see what happens to RPaul for saying this…..are you sure its not RuPaul who sent this in? But this guy/gal is so irrelevant that it really doesn’t matter right?

    • Mooser
      July 8, 2011, 11:57 am

      “are you sure its not RuPaul who sent this in? But this guy/gal is so irrelevant that it really doesn’t matter right?”

      Maybe to you, but to me that man is a living god!

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