Israeli settlers attack Israeli activists & journalists; 19 injured, 3 hospitalized

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The following report was sent to us by Ofer Neiman:

This morning (9/30) Israeli activists and Palestinians were attacked by settlers near the settlement of Anatot. The landowner of the plot to which the activists came in order to plant trees was also attacked by the settlers who cracked his head open, as well as attacking his wife. The two were have been hospitalized at Hadasa Ein Karem hospital.

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Jewish settlers clashed with left wing activists in the entrance to the Jewish settlement of Anatot near Jerusalem on the 30/9/2011. (Photo: Activestills)

Police officers who were present at the scene did nothing while the activists were beaten and their cameras smashed. Some of the attackers wore police shirts and carried service weapons, which attests to the fact that they are a part of the police force even though they were off duty.

Three other activists have been hospitalized at Hadassa Ein Karem and an additional three have been arrested by the police, who have NOT arrested any of the assaulting settlers, in spite of having witnessed everything.

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(Photo: activestills)

Later this evening, more activists arrived to protest against the pogrom which had taken place earlier. They too were attacked and beaten, with stoned being thrown at them too. In spite of police presence at the scene, the police did nothing.

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(Photo: Activestills)

As a result of the second attack, 19 people have been injured, requiring medical attention, and three have been hospitalized at Hadasa Ein Karem. Again, several cameras were destroyed. Moreover, cars belonging to the activists, which were parked outside the settlement of Anatot, were damaged by the attackers, who smashed windshields and head and tail lights, as well as puncturing tires.

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Damage done to an activist’s car. (Photo: Activestills)

Annie adds:

Settlers and settler security attacked a group of non violent protesters this morning who arrived in solidarity with a Palestinian who had set up a tent outside of the illegal settlement of Anatot near the Palestinian village of Anata on land he claimed was his. Eventually border guards and the police arrived.

I became alerted about this when my twitter feed started going crazy a few hours ago. Ma’an reports 3 have been injured and others have reported people have been taken to the hospital for head injuries. Many tweets alleged cars of the protestors have been vandalized and the settlers are throwing rocks at the protestors as well as destroying cameras and other equipment. Ynet is reporting the tent was set up in the center of the settlement but from this video it looks like it’s in the middle of nowhere.

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  1. annie
    September 30, 2011, 11:36 pm

    adam, you totally rock on getting the story. omg, thank you for pulling this thru.

    solidarity people, it’s getting more intense by the minute.

    • Philip Munger
      October 1, 2011, 2:39 am

      It is getting worse rapidly, isn’t it.

      • seafoid
        October 1, 2011, 3:45 am

        I think it’s just getting filmed more often, Philip.
        They have been doing this since 1967.

  2. Real Jew
    October 1, 2011, 12:03 am

    What a disgraceful day for Israel and jews everywhere. Do these hateful violent settlers know no bounds? Well I guess when you have the backing of the police force and full support of the state you don’t need any. These maniacs are not concerned with the consequences of their behavior because they know there will be none. Who is going to stop them when their own police officers are participating in the atrocities. It’s like a scene out of a movie, no order, no rule of (civilized) law, just total anarchy!

    I’m effin fuming!! But you know what, this sort of despicable compliance to the settlers by the state of Israel will undoubtedly come back and bite Israel in its spineless ass. By allowing this psychotic cult to continue to act with impunity will (has) create an uncontrollable civilian population that will inevitably turn on the very state that supports them. Its already starting via pricetags on other Israelis and IDF bases. Soon they will begin attacking IDF personnel. THIS SITUATION WILL CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE UNTIL ISRAEL IS FORCED TO BEHAVE LIKE SYRIA AND BEGIN SHOOTING THEIR OWN CITIZENS. Watch and see

    • john h
      October 1, 2011, 12:51 am

      “These maniacs are not concerned with the consequences of their behavior because they know there will be none.”

      It’s called impunity, and it’s something Israel has had in all of its Zionist existence.

      This is a maniac country, a spoiled love-child of the Western powers. How could we expect any part of it to know any better?

      • Real Jew
        October 1, 2011, 2:02 am

        “It’s called impunity, and it’s something Israel has had in all of its Zionist existence….. this is a maniac country, a spoiled love-child of the Western powers. ”

        You are EXACTLY right. It’s because of this that Israel even exists. And its because of this Israel is allowed to remain. Regretfully, I have lost all faith in Israel to have the strength to change willingly. And until the Western govts, particularly US and UK, rid themselves of the chains the Lobby has imposed on them, this conflict will rage on indefinitely.

      • Antidote
        October 1, 2011, 3:07 pm

        Western government ridding themselves of ‘the chains the Lobby has imposed on them’ won’t change a thing.

        First, they will continue to support Israel’s security and domestic stability because no one wants to watch and see what would happen to a failed state sitting on a large arsenal of weapons and nukes, potentially falling into the hands of extremists who’d rather blow up the ME than give up on the Jewish state (or accept the Jewish state). You think Merkel is driven by guilt about the Holocaust? That’s just the emotional club being used to stifle increasing opposition to pro-Israel policies among the German voters and taxpayers.

        Second, British, American and continental European support (including the Kaiser and Hitler) for Zionism and a Jewish state in Palestine was, among other objectives, supposed to solve the ‘Jewish Problem’. No Western country will look forward to re-integrating the ‘spoiled children’ of Israel at a time of economic crisis and increasing social unrest.

        The Jewish state is here to stay, Lobby or no Lobby. The only question is what kind of state it will be.

        OF course, Western support may not be worth much in the near or distant future. Both the US and Europe are in sharp decline. The best economic performer in Europe is the country that hasn’t had a government for some 2 years. Maybe that’s the way to go.

      • Real Jew
        October 1, 2011, 8:37 pm

        Antidote ” Western government ridding themselves of ‘the chains the Lobby has imposed on them’ won’t change a thing”

        I respectfully disagree with you on this one. The Lobby in both the US and UK is the ONLY reason why Israel receives unconditional support from the two. Since the Lobby expects complete loyalty and submission to their agenda any politician in both countries know if they take an anti Israel stance they stand a good chance of destroying their political career (see chas freeman).

        So if congress wakes up one day and decides to stop taking orders from AIPAC, there is no way in hell that our elected officials would willingly support Israel to the degree they do now. Therefore legitimate criticism of Israeli policy will run rampant, pour into MSM, and much of our special relationship with Israel will inevitably be reevaluated leading to possible sanctions against Israel or withholding US aid until Israel begins to behave itself.

        This is not to say the US will throw Israel to the dogs and let the country collapse. But the US will begin to engage the conflict more equally and put US interest first and treat Israel like every other foreign country

      • Antidote
        October 1, 2011, 10:54 pm

        RJ

        I think the US does treat Israel like any other foreign country, and always has, i.e. from a perspective of self-interest, and that applies to individual politicians and members of Congress as well. If you can’t throw Israel to the dogs anyway, as you put it, why not take the money and play along? The Lobby funds campaigns, and provides a lucrative job market for politicians no one would vote for again. Tony Blair, for instance. It’s all just political theater, a self-perpetuating deception and self-deception, and deflection from the real problem.

        “The United States decimated North Korea and Vietnam under both Democratic and Republican rule. It decimated Iraq under Republican rule, but the Democrats did not object, nor have they since withdrawn the troops. It started a war in Afghanistan that Republicans bequeathed to the Democrats and that will continue for many years to come.

        Since World War II, the American war industry has never stopped growing. Eisenhower, in his farewell speech 50 years ago when he left the White House to Kennedy, warned against the increasing power of the American arms industry: “We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.” His prophecy comes true on a daily basis.

        [...]

        The American economy relies on this gigantic war machine. The policy of peace that some Democrats support is based on a different economics, but the way is long and hard, and it seems it is more difficult to beat China and India on this field. Even the president who became a symbol even before having done anything in office, and received the Nobel Peace Prize simply because he fulfilled Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream, doesn’t have a good speech for the data on stagnant growth and unemployment; he has no response to America’s decline.

        When a bank chairman is replaced, the bank’s investment policy is unlikely to change drastically. The president of the United States is like the chairman of a huge bank, and the differences between him and his political rivals are really dwarfed when they are viewed from the bloody morasses of Vietnam and Iraq, or even our own.

        For years, the “peace camp” has pinned its hopes on an American president who will come and extricate us from the occupation. This folly also reflects Israel’s dependence on the United States in general.

        It is convenient to forget that no other country in the world has received a gift of $100 billion since its establishment 63 years ago. It is convenient to forget that for decades, Israel has been the pipeline through which the United States funded the American arms industry: The money it disburses goes through Israel and back to those industries. It is convenient for our gentle doves to forget that the Israeli project is first and foremost an imperial one, through which the United States – whether by stick (bombings deep inside Egypt, the destruction of Beirut, the starvation of Gaza ) or by carrot (“We’ll pressure them if you are nice to us” ) – continues to rule the region.

        True, it is sad to see the “liberators of Libya” denying the 44-year-old military dictatorship in Palestine. True, it is sad to compare Obama the symbol – and the hopes it was so easy to pin on him, especially from afar – with the symbol’s real meaning.

        But the pro-Americanism of the Israeli peace camp is even sadder. Like beggars at the gate, its members stand there and say to the White House, which is built on so much oppression and horror throughout the world, “Don’t be a Lieberman; help us to be righteous.”

        link to haaretz.com

        France and Germany are big weapon producers too. Last time Netanyhau and Merkel made up after a row over the German vote in the UNSC (not supporting settlement expansion), Bibi went home with another submarine. Will Merkel or any other German chancellor put equal human rights and justice for the Palestinians above Germany and the EU? Unfortunately, I don’t think so.

        The only people who can solve this problem peacefully are the people of Israel. They’d have to wake up to the fact that their friends may be worse than their enemies.

      • Taxi
        October 1, 2011, 11:57 pm

        “The Jewish state is here to stay, Lobby or no Lobby.”

        And you’d bet your farm on this ludicrousity?

        My analysis on the lifespan of Apartheid israel: tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock……

    • seafoid
      October 1, 2011, 3:50 am

      Thanks Ofer for reporting this.

    • yourstruly
      October 1, 2011, 8:02 am

      reminiscent of the brown shirt days in nazi germany. considering the fact that german zionists made deals* with the nazis, what goes around comes around

      *the transfer agreement (wikipedia) in the first few months of the 3rd reich which helped end a global boycott of germany

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 5:51 pm

        “calling the activists “Mityavnim”, a very strong word which translates into something like “Hellenistic Jews”, the enemies of the “real Jews”, the enemies whom the fanatic Judas Maccabeus and his buddies were eager to kill.”

        ROTFLMSJAO!!!! Those goddam “Hellenistic Jews”!
        Ah yes, this is a country with a great future.
        You know, I’ve got to admit, there have been times when I wondered if Israel would meet my expectations, carefully nurtured for so many years. And I see I’m wrong, they indeed to exceed them.

  3. Ofer Neiman
    October 1, 2011, 12:47 am

    “Well I guess when you have the backing of the police force and full support of the state you don’t need any.”

    Worse than that, (we’re being told that) Anatot is where many border policemen and policemen reside (career officers, if you can dignify what they do for a living with the word “career”).

    They don’t need the backing of the police, they ARE the police…

    In addition, it’s notable that these thugs are not ultra-Orthodox. They are (just) a narrow-minded tribal mob. This doesn’t mean they are secular or liberal :) You can hear them calling the activists “Mityavnim”, a very strong word which translates into something like “Hellenistic Jews”, the enemies of the “real Jews”, the enemies whom the fanatic Judas Maccabeus and his buddies were eager to kill.

    • annie
      October 1, 2011, 1:23 am

      Ofer, thank you so much for your contributions to this story. it must be really chilling being there while this is going on. please know that many of us (i only can speak for myself but i know other share my sentiments) know being on the grounds is much more dangerous and challenging than advocating from afar. so please spread my gratitude and appreciation to all those on the front lines.

      a bit OT. the last video in the post..i noticed on the same persons youtube link another video from only a few hrs prior. it occurs to me they could be related. the dialogue is in hebrew. can you check this out? is the person who owns this land the same person who set up the tent at anatot?

      • Ofer Neiman
        October 1, 2011, 1:49 am

        Annie, thanks, but I wasn’t there yesterday.

        As for your question, the other video seems to be from an action in Mt. Hebron (unrelated).

    • longliveisrael
      October 1, 2011, 1:26 am

      Ofer, that term Mityavnim is correct for you, I would also add KAPO boged

      • Ofer Neiman
        October 1, 2011, 1:46 am

        classy

      • Shmuel
        October 1, 2011, 3:10 am

        You forgot okher yisra’el, sakin begav ha’umah, rodef and moser. Ofer has a reputation to maintain, you know.

      • seafoid
        October 1, 2011, 3:49 am

        “okher yisra’el, sakin begav ha’umah, rodef and moser

        Is moser by any chance related to Mooser ?

      • Shmuel
        October 1, 2011, 4:00 am

        Is moser by any chance related to Mooser ?

        Only if seafoid is related to seafood.

      • sammy
        October 1, 2011, 7:13 am

        Hi Shmuel, would you translate? I googled mityavnim and came up with hellenists??

      • Shmuel
        October 1, 2011, 7:53 am

        Hi Shmuel, would you translate?

        Anything for a homonym, sammy :-)

        Mityavnim – Hellenist Jews; more broadly assimilationists and “race” traitors
        Kapo – this extremely offensive epithet needs no translation
        Boged – traitor
        Okher yisra’el – destroyer of Israel (but since that’s what Ahab calls Elijah in 1 Kings 18:17, it may put the “tauntee” in very good company)
        Sakin be-gav ha’umah – knife in the back of the nation (very very bad historical connotations)
        Rodef – mortal threat (one of the religious/legal rationalisations used by Yigal Amir for his assassination of Yitzhak Rabin)
        Moser – a traitor, one who turns a fellow Jew over to non-Jews (another of Amir’s rationalisations)

        The clip Adam posted also includes some more prosaic insults: dogs, whores, sons/daughters of whores, garbage, etc.

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 5:54 pm

        “sakin begav ha’umah, rodef and moser.”

        Holey Crap! You mean I’ve been spelling it wrong all these years!
        C’mon, aren’t English spellings of Yiddish or even Hebrew words sort of variable?

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:04 pm

        “Kapo – this extremely offensive epithet needs no translation”

        No it doesn’t! I took mine off my guitar immediately! No more Hellenistic keys for me! Only good old fashioned traditional Jewish tunings!

      • thankgodimatheist
        October 1, 2011, 3:17 am

        “Ofer, that term Mityavnim is correct for you,”

        Could you expand on the reasons that earned Ofer such a label, Longlivefascism? Is it because he’s exposing what your tribal friends are up to in the occupied territories?

      • seafoid
        October 1, 2011, 3:50 am

        I think this site could do with more reports from Ofer. This one brings the ziobots out into the open where their hatred is visible.

      • kapok
        October 1, 2011, 11:13 am

        longlivemisery shows his true colours.

    • Real Jew
      October 1, 2011, 2:14 am

      Ofer, pay no mind to the morally bankrupt zionists who attempt to infect this site with willful ignorance and disgraceful comments. They are a lost cause.

      Anyhow, thank you for your informative post. The large majority here is greatly appreciative of informed and genuine individuals

    • seafoid
      October 1, 2011, 3:52 am

      Thanks Ofer. Great work

      “Anatot is where many border policemen and policemen reside (career officers, if you can dignify what they do for a living with the word “career”)”

      The settlements are a class thing too, aren’t they? Many lower middle class badly educated border policemen can’t afford to buy in Israel. Settlements give them status they would never have otherwise. I guess part of the vitriol you get even on here comes from that.

      • Ofer Neiman
        October 1, 2011, 4:27 pm

        Hi seafoid, yes. These people have a house with a garden in Anatot, something they cannot afford in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv.

    • eee
      October 1, 2011, 12:34 pm

      Ofer,

      When you call the good people of Anatot “a narrow-minded tribal mob” you lose any respect I have for you. You have every right to pursue your strange leftist ideology but in this case you are a careless provocateur. These people are not religious nor fanatic. This means to me that they must have been excessively provoked to reach this level of anger. That does not justify their actions, but I would like to know the whole story behind this incident. This is not a one off. It must have been brewing for months. So what exactly is going on here? What is the full story? Do you have a links to the Israeli press describing what has happened?

      • Real Jew
        October 1, 2011, 2:28 pm

        EEE said: “These people are not religious nor fanatic. THIS MEANS TO ME that they must have been excessively provoked to reach this level of anger”

        Despite the utter absurdity to this nonsense here we go:

        What “this means to you” is irrelevant when there is literally tens maybe hundreds of incidents that proves your analysis is wrong. Are you really suggesting that settlers have never attacked, vandalized, or mudered anyone without “proper provacation”?? Ridonkulous!! Reality +O Propaganda +1o

      • eee
        October 1, 2011, 3:57 pm

        Real Jew,

        Of course settlers have attacked without provocation. But it is not likely that this is the case here. These guys are not religious hotheads. They are middle class Israelis that the last thing they need is a fight. So the story here needs to be fleshed out. Just providing half the truth is a bad strategy. There was clearly a provocation. I would like to know what it was.

      • seafoid
        October 2, 2011, 2:53 am

        “So the story here needs to be fleshed out”

        these are Jews who live in illegal settlements beyond the borders of Israel. Does this help you? It doesn’t matter whether or not they are religious.

        They built their lives around a lie. They attained a desired social status on moving to the settlements and they know that it’s all built of sand and they’ll do anything to defend it including murder. With useful idiots like yourself providing backup in Galut.

      • Chaos4700
        October 1, 2011, 2:37 pm

        Oh great, Ofer lost the respect of an Arab-hating militant from a family of European expatriates. You didn’t ask for the whole story when your country broke its promise and ended the cease fire on November in 2008, and yet we have documented evidence of an actual attack — a pogrom, really by Jews like you (unlike Jews who are NOT like you, like many of the victims) and now suddenly you’ve gained a sense of skepticism.

        Everybody knows what you’re really doing is trying to justify these attacks by the settlers. Stop mincing words.

      • Bumblebye
        October 1, 2011, 3:22 pm

        What the squeeeeeek is also saying is that if s/he had been there, it’s quite likely s/he would have joined in, since the provocation of the LANDOWNER planting on HIS OWN LAND (much of which was stolen for the settlement) would have been too much to bear. Especially for the dim plods who live there and want their mates also in the border police to be able to move to nice CHEAP, SUBSIDISED new houses too.

      • Ofer Neiman
        October 1, 2011, 4:29 pm

        Sweet eee,here’s the whole story: The lords of the land saw a Palestinian with a Palestinian flag, on his private land, inside the area they have (illegally) annexed. This was upsetting, especially the flag. Hutzpah.

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 5:58 pm

        Wait a minute, doesn’y “eee” live in Israel? And he’s asking us for information on this? Good Lord, “eee” go to your vaunted Israeli media, and get the real story. You can’t expect commie left-winkers like us to know the true story.

      • eee
        October 2, 2011, 1:16 am

        Ofer,

        You know very well that is not the story. These are not the kind of people who get bothered about a Palestinian with a flag in the middle of an empty field. The story is not yet clear, but hopefully it will be.

      • justicewillprevail
        October 2, 2011, 6:22 am

        Holding steadfast to your denial, maybe it will go away if you keep up the obfuscation and desperate search for excuses

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:06 pm

        “you lose any respect I have for you. “

        ROTFL!!! Yes sir, if there’s something I value it’s the respect of a…. oh never mind.

      • Shmuel
        October 2, 2011, 11:29 am

        So what exactly is going on here? What is the full story?

        More testimonies and background: link to kibush.co.il

      • annie
        October 2, 2011, 12:15 pm

        omg that link is just horrendous.

        Their `blue` ID cards have not spared el-Rifai and his wife a great deal of agony. In recent years Anatot`s settlers have been doing all they can to try to expel them from their land. The land that appears to be barren in the clip was once full of olive trees. Settlers ran over el-Rifai`s wife with a mini-tractor, the two were beaten on several occasions, requiring hospitalization. Yasin was also stabbed. Their share of misery has also included the uprooting of all fruit trees on the plot, destruction of agricultural equipment, contamination of the water well by throwing carcasses and garbage into it, burning the cave which is located within the confines of the plot, constant uprooting of any newly-planted trees, threats against the two as well as physical assaults on them. Countless complaints have been submitted to the police, but nothing has been done to stop the abuse. El-Rifai and his wife have not given up, and against all odds they are trying to hold on to their land. Yasin, desperate to find some support, contact activists through the Internet a few months ago.

        everyone should read that whole link

      • Bumblebye
        October 2, 2011, 12:33 pm

        Not just read it, but note that these are vile crimes carried out BY POLICE. With clear impunity. What chance peace?
        Now tell us eeeeeeeee, how these are people not “bothered” by a Palestinian whose land they have stolen? Or are they more bothered by those who try to lend their support to the victims instead of the perpetrators? Sheeeesh, you’re a bunch of sick puppies you ziocaine addicts.

      • Shmuel
        October 2, 2011, 12:36 pm

        According to Peace Now, 46.5 % of the land on which Almon/Anatot sits is private Palestinian land. No wonder they get jittery when a Palestinian tries to claim his land – especially one with a blue ID and Jewish-Israeli friends. In Hebrew (taken from Yiddish) we say “the hat burns on the thief’s head”.

      • justicewillprevail
        October 2, 2011, 1:09 pm

        What a disgrace. How can any of the idiots like eeejit and co defend this, or pretend that this isn’t Israeli policy in action, aided and abetted by their so-called security forces. What a bunch of sadistic, greedy, selfish, despicable human beings, indifferent to the lives of others who have the misfortune not to have the right grandparents, despite being genuine inhabitants and owners of this land.

  4. Saleema
    October 1, 2011, 1:13 am

    How beautiful Zionism is!

    • seafoid
      October 1, 2011, 5:26 am

      tikkun olam !

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      • DBG
        October 1, 2011, 11:45 am

        So Zionism=Judaism now? can you guys seriously make up your mind on this?

        constantly mocking our religion is not going to help the Palestinians seafoid, I don’t think that is your main concern though. Like many of your brethren on here, your hatred has consumed you. The Palestinians play second fiddle now, your hatred of Israel trumps that.

      • Chaos4700
        October 1, 2011, 2:39 pm

        Why don’t you ask eee and hophmi to make up their minds, and Witty too. They’re the ones who insist you can’t be Jewish without being Zionist. I’ve NEVER seen you challenge them when they say that — but then, if you went after them instead of us, you wouldn’t be protecting Israel instead of, say, Americans, right?

      • Chaos4700
        October 1, 2011, 2:58 pm

        Anyway, what does your faith really mean to you when you proclaim “Happy Jewish New Year!” on an article about Gazan fishermen being attacked constantly?

      • DBG
        October 1, 2011, 3:37 pm

        Chaos, here is the deal. if you are going to continue to lie and attack me, I am not going to respond to you anymore. you can continue your games, it is fine, but I am done with you.

      • justicewillprevail
        October 1, 2011, 4:23 pm

        You keep telling us Israel is the Jewish state. Here are your Jewish values, as pursued and encouraged by the state which expresses those values. According to you and your echo chamber, at least. Can you make up your mind on this?

      • seafoid
        October 1, 2011, 4:36 pm

        We Christians, DBG, have a thing in our Bible that Israel and all the Jews who support it would benefit from learning .
        Render unto God what is God’s and render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.

        Israel is running a combined Caesar (Zionism) /God (Judaism) program at the moment and Caesar is going to crash. Get Judaism out of Zionism before it’s too late.

        What is the point of observing all the halakhic mitzvot if the next act is to engage in a pogrom against Palestinians? What is the point of the mitzvot?

      • eee
        October 1, 2011, 5:21 pm

        Chaos,

        Enough with your lies. I never said you can’t be Jewish without being a Zionist. Of course you can. Neturei Karta are quite Jewish. What I say, and keep saying is that the vast majority of Jews are Zionists.

      • eee
        October 1, 2011, 5:24 pm

        “Get Judaism out of Zionism before it’s too late.”

        What does that mean? Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jews. How can you take Judaism out of Zionism?

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:03 pm

        “I am not going to respond to you anymore.”

        Okay, this is getting too hilarious!! Every last freakin’ one of them says this, and every last motherless son of them is completely incapable of doing it.
        And what a threat! You’re “not going to respond to him anymore”?
        My god, what could be more crushing?
        Chaos, remember, the suicide hotline is only a call away! But if you feel like you will hurt yourself for being rejected by “DBG”, call 911 and medics will be sent.

        “I’m not going to respond to you anymore” ROTFLMSJAO!!!!

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:08 pm

        “I never said you can’t be Jewish without being a Zionist.”

        No, it’s only about as important as believing in God to being Jewish!

        Oh you are in rare form today “eee”

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:11 pm

        “Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jews.”

        “National Liberation Movement”? National Liberation Movement?
        Oh boy I smell a commie! Nobody except left wingers talk about “national liberation movements” I bet that Zionism stuff is just a way to slip Communism into Judaism.

      • justicewillprevail
        October 1, 2011, 6:12 pm

        Heh heh, personally I would consider it a badge of honour, not to mention a sweet relief. They apparently expect us to be devastated and distraught. A troll threatening to post less? What will we do?

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:13 pm

        but I am done with you.”

        Nah, Phil’s got you ties up in a room with too0thpicks between your eyelids, and if you don’t comment, he pokes you with a stick. I’m not saying I approve, but you can’t leave if you want to.

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:14 pm

        BTW, all you have to do to access any commenter archive is to click their name. Except mine, of course.

      • POA
        October 1, 2011, 7:58 pm

        ” if you are going to continue to lie and attack me, I am not going to respond to you anymore. you can continue your games, it is fine, but I am done with you”

        Well, what a letdown that must be for you, DBG.

        From fearless warrior, (where “done with you” means a well placed high velocity tear gas canister to the temple), to some sofa bound wannabe, (where “done with you” is just an absurd threat that illicits giggles and grins from your “victim”).

        Well, WE are not DONE with YOU. As long as your ridiculous and despicable rationales and justifications soil this blog, I am sure that many here will be more than happy to tear you a new one.

        But, no matter. For sure, you will not be able to resist Chaos’s frequent and accurate appraisals of what you are made of, and what makes such an odorous mass as yours tick. I have faith, that like your comrads here, you will continue to include all of us, (yes, even Chaos), in being smothered with your spore.

      • Real Jew
        October 1, 2011, 11:11 pm

        What’s going on with u mooser? I’ve never seen you mock a fellow zionist? I’m shocked! U feeling ok?

      • LeaNder
        October 2, 2011, 7:44 am

        real-live satire creates the irresistible impulse in our dear friend to turn somersaults all over the comment section. If we wouldn’t have him we would need to invent him.

      • Mooser
        October 11, 2011, 2:31 pm

        “I’ve never seen you mock a fellow zionist?”

        You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

  5. thankgodimatheist
    October 1, 2011, 1:14 am

    Jewish Israeli fascism out of control

  6. Shingo
    October 1, 2011, 2:24 am

    Just remember people. The settlers were only defending themselves.

    It’s their right you know.

    • Abierno
      October 1, 2011, 3:38 pm

      This comment by Shingo is correct. These settlers are defending an
      economic life style – with housing, health insurance, education and leisure
      amenities – which they could never afford should they be returned to
      an Israel within ’67 boundaries. That soldiers, border police, as well
      immigrants (many of whom openly admit they could not – ever- attain
      a similar standard of living in their countries of origin.) comprise much
      of the settler movement should be no surprise, since they can be easily
      motivated to operate as a paramilitary arm to Israel’s other, many
      military groups and operations.

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:16 pm

        BINGO!!!! Now, isn’t there a name for that kind set up? Begins with “C”? And another word which begins with “R”?

  7. justicewillprevail
    October 1, 2011, 4:17 am

    The mask is slipping. With the approval and help of the state and its security apparatus, the settler fascists once again attack poor farmers and their families, as well as anybody who stands in their way. when will all the whining apologists and denialists see it for what it is? These people are scumbags and criminals, yet demand and get the protection of the mindless goons who supposedly represent Israel. What a cesspit Israel has descended into.

  8. radii
    October 1, 2011, 5:33 am

    MONSTER on the move … we all knew this was where it was going and it is only the beginning of these extremist nutjobs’ campaign of destruction and terror … so much needless suffering about to unfold because of these awful awful people and a corrupt military-theocratic-apartheid regime

    • seafoid
      October 1, 2011, 8:27 am

      Wait until they start the Endloesung, the final ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

  9. pabelmont
    October 1, 2011, 8:16 am

    RealJew: Israel as a spoiled love-child of western powers.

    Great phrase. I remember my father telling me he’d never been proud of Jews (or, possibly, of being Jewish) until the military success of 1967. MILITARISM as a source of pride!

    Had it been defensive, it would have been OK. But it was in large part offensive (as well as first shots being fired by Israel), as the capture and gradual take-over of West Bank and Gaza and Golan (and Sinai) show.

    What we have now is SETTLER BROWNSHIRTS increasingly “empowered” and encouraged (and NOT STOPPED) from Crystal-Nacht-like pogroms not seen since 1938 as Hitler and his merry band of ethnic cleansers came into their vicious stride.

    Jews learned both sides of that story of 1938. Today’s settlers are playing out the ever-enjoyable (for the cruel and vicious) role of BROWNSHIRTS. Some Israeli “activists”, who learned the other lesson of 1938, are playing out a role of resistance.

    And where is the USA’s MSM on all this? I’ve asked OnTheMedia. And when may we expect the Jewish rabbis and other supposedly “ethical” Jewish folks in the USA to speak out against these horrors?

    The silence is deafening. Heschel would have spoken out!

    • annie
      October 1, 2011, 8:48 am

      And where is the USA’s MSM on all this?

      the only way our msm will ever cover this or events like this is if we and others plaster it all over the web so that it becomes common knowledge. or for us to change the meaning of what msm means in this country.

    • Real Jew
      October 1, 2011, 10:51 am

      Pabelmont, thank you but credit for the phrase belongs to John H (above). However much in your post is both relevant and thoughtful. The Brownshirts have indeed resurrected and showed their ugly colors to the world…again. Although this time the source is from the least likely of people, the jews.

  10. Henry Norr
    October 1, 2011, 8:53 am

    Mairav Zonszein’s story at 972mag.com includes some useful background on this incident, including this first-hand report from one of the Ta’ayush activists who were attacked:

    When we arrived Friday morning there was already a security officer there, who decided to call the police, but they did not interfere. However, more and more settlers from the area gathered on the main road a few hundred feet from where we were. I called the police and told them we felt in danger. There were some police cars on the road where the settlers were but they did not prevent the settlers from coming up to confront us. Some came up to us and started cursing and threatening. I called the police again. Then dozens came towards us and began attacking us. It really felt like a lynch. I was punched several times and fell to the ground and when I got up I rushed over to a border police officer and begged him to protect me and help me. I latched on to him for dear life but he didn’t stop them. My camera was taken from me and broken and my glasses had broken somwhere. I began running to the street with another activist and managed to get away from the settlement while many others were still being attacked. I managed to get out with only a broken hand and some bruises.

    Israelis speaking/writing in English often call incidents like this “a lynch,” a term that has an odd ring to my American ears. I’d say the normal noun is “a lynching,” but unless someone gets strung up, I think the term *pogrom* is both more accurate and more resonant.

  11. Whizdom
    October 1, 2011, 9:04 am

    This is alarming. Price tag type settler activism has not been associated with the “close in settlements” or Jerusalem suburbs, particularly the more secular, suburban communities like this one. These are not fanatic religious nationalists. They are often critical of the settlers in the outposts (because they make the rest of them look bad). If the two groups align, and the willingness to use violence against fellow Israelis and Internationals escalates, it would be an ominous development.

    • annie
      October 1, 2011, 9:45 am

      whizdom, i few weeks ago Haaretz published an important article about “Extreme right-wing Jewish activists” organizing into terror groups. some fanatics threatened a Peace Now activist with murder. According to the Shin Bet “extreme Jewish activists” have expanded there terrorizing activities from Palestinians in the West Bank to targeting Jews, specifically “left-wing Israeli activists” . Shin Bet’s new analysis claims the Jewish extremists have a database of potential targets and are organizing. “Sources in the Shin Bet noted that the planned attacks against Arabs and left-wing Israelis constitute terrorist activity, for all intents and purposes. ”

      at the same time the hebrew press was writing about “waves of attacks against arabs” in east jerusalem. so imho this is a serious escalation, a planned escalation.

      i think the ‘database’ to target left wing activists is significant. it sounds like a jdl type organization as opposed to the other kinds of settlers and it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if these groups included members of the police which might be one reason the shin bet has there hands tied (i can’t recall where i read another article lately about the shin bet not figuring it out or something of that nature).

      • Whizdom
        October 1, 2011, 10:09 am

        There are extremists willing to emply violence on both sides who seek to prevent a political division of the territory. Netanyahu and Meshaal are on same side of issue in blocking PA’s UN statehood bid.

        On can hope the extremists would be marginalized by the rational middle. Now it seems the rational middle is being radicalized.

      • annie
        October 1, 2011, 10:28 am

        ah, the ol both sides response.

      • Whizdom
        October 1, 2011, 12:19 pm

        well, between the extremists on both sides, the Palestinians seem to be exercising the most restraint in the use of violence to obtain political ends over recent years.

      • Mooser
        October 1, 2011, 6:39 pm

        Ah, so trying to get back what was stolen, or just keep what you have, is a “political end”? Gosh, I must haved missed that in the Talmud

      • Whizdom
        October 2, 2011, 1:46 pm

        The Talmud speaks in great detail about righting (or adjudicating) wrongs between individuals.

        However, this isn’t a conflict between individuals, is it?

  12. pookieross
    October 1, 2011, 9:13 am

    As Polish Holocaust survivor Sygmunt Baumann said, Israel is achieving what Hitler dreamed of: he wanted the world to hate Jews.

    • Sumud
      October 2, 2011, 8:27 am

      …Israel is achieving what Hitler dreamed of: he wanted the world to hate Jews.

      Though I don’t agree with Baumann, I think I know where he is coming from – that in claiming to represent and act for all jews it is giving them a bad name.

      I don’t know about the general community but nearly every event I go to about Israel & Palestine has a jewish speaker or questions from audience member(s) who identify as jewish, and they are obviously held in high esteem by most if not all present – the modern day version of the “righteous among nations”.

      • seafoid
        October 2, 2011, 2:53 pm

        “every event I go to about Israel & Palestine has a jewish speaker or questions from audience member(s) who identify as jewish, and they are obviously held in high esteem by most if not all present – the modern day version of the “righteous among nations”.’

        and they still moan about antisemitism

        Here is what real prejudice and race hatred looks like.

        link to bbc.co.uk

        Of course the Zionists have forgotten all about the Roma

  13. Edithann
    October 1, 2011, 9:28 am

    Why hasn’t this been reported by the US media?

    TATA

    • seafoid
      October 1, 2011, 11:22 am

      Why hasn’t this been reported by the US media?

      I thought the US media operate a “don’t ask , we won’t tell you” policy towards the Palestinians.

  14. POA
    October 1, 2011, 10:33 am

    Remarkable.

    In one post, Ofer managed to pull LLI’s mask off. There was no doubt, before, what lay underneath, but seeing it so willingly exposed by LLI was undoubtedly enlightening to whom ever may have been in denial about what dwells in the “character” of those such as LLI.

    We owe LLI a debt of gratitude. It is such unabashed exposure of the TRUE CHARACTER of the zionists that will be their downfall. Surely, Jews of good conscience and sound character will increasingly seek to distance themselves from such loathsome bearers of such deep hatreds, racist ideologies, and inhumane and criminal practices.

    Keep talking, LLI, the world is beginning to listen.

    • seafoid
      October 1, 2011, 12:08 pm

      Ofer had one good dog whistle for LLI. Here, boy ! Sit!

    • Mooser
      October 1, 2011, 6:27 pm

      “In one post, Ofer managed to pull LLI’s mask off.”

      The wonderful Ofer Neiman not withstanding, LLI’s “mask” has come off many times. But you see, ziocaine, the active chemical messenger of Zionism, also induces ziocaine amnesia. So every time LLI (or any of his ilk) are exposed, in a way which would make any normal person very reluctant to show their face again, they just forget about by the next day, and start telling bare-faced lies again. Maybe they figure that because they forget, and haven’t the shame to forgo the didactic, pedantic, presumptuous and mendacious performance, everybody else must forget, too.
      And there’s of course the old 1,2,3,4 to get going again.
      Although it looks like they are pretty much down to “you suck”.
      Israel’s national motto must be “Quick, Judge them before they Judge You”

    • Mooser
      October 1, 2011, 6:54 pm

      “Surely, Jews of good conscience and sound character will increasingly seek to distance themselves from such loathsome bearers…”

      Hey, when you’ve got the US government and millions of “Christian Zionists” (which frankly, I can only understand if it means “my boss is Jewish and Zionist, but let it go…) on your side, who needs the Jews?

    • James
      October 1, 2011, 7:40 pm

      it didn’t take much did it? lli is like an immature version of witty in that he speaks spontaneously from time to time… the older version is tongue-tied regularly and one needs a pair of vice grips to untangle the mess of words…

  15. kapok
    October 1, 2011, 11:28 am

    Obviously, if the activists intend to go mano a mano with the settlers, they must submit to being trained. And don’t count on the police to save you! Ain’t gwine happen.

  16. Whizdom
    October 1, 2011, 12:25 pm

    Planting trees. The egregious provocation that elicited the settler attack was PLANTING TREES!

    Think on that for a minute. All of us who gave pennies as children for the planting of trees in the Land O’ Israel.

    • Eva Smagacz
      October 1, 2011, 8:19 pm

      Palestinians need permits to plant trees and dig wells in West Bank. Military Order #1015 (8/27/82) and Military order no.92.
      (not a single permit since 1967 has been issued to Palestinians for digging wells in area of Western Aquifer, which lies in West Bank and which supplies much of Israel’s water)

  17. Whizdom
    October 1, 2011, 2:32 pm

    Perhaps it is time to be honest and have little blue and white donation boxes to support “uprooting trees in Ancient Palestine”

  18. Mooser
    October 1, 2011, 6:52 pm

    An interesting post at JSF, which bears on this issue:

    link to jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com

  19. kapok
    October 1, 2011, 7:45 pm

    Hmm, lively thread. Anyhoo, I posted a link to here using reddit.com’s submit-a-link feature, called it Jew vs Jew, short, sweet, factual. Didn’t editorialize as reddit says not to.

    And they scrubbed it. If this is a conspiracy I call dibs on Kapok’s conjecture. I have to say only a few net-worthy sites are reliable anymore. Soon, perhaps, we’ll have to judge the world strictly by what we see around us. and ignore, or severely suspect, everything else presented to us.

  20. Remax
    October 2, 2011, 5:44 am

    There is an inevitability about these brutal scenes. The settlements may be viewed as buffers, obstacles against incursions by the dispossessed. The Romans created such colonies along their borders settling them with retired legionaries.

  21. Sherri Munnerlyn
    October 2, 2011, 5:46 am

    Why don’t we use the word “terrorists” or “terrorist supporters”to describe the illegal settlers?

    I read articles like “Girls At War” in Tablet Magazine and I see an illegal settlement that is nothing but a terrorist breeding camp.

    link to tabletmag.com

    Ruth Fogel taught at an extremist school, founded and operated by a man whose teachers and idols were/are Rabbi Kahane and Baruch Goldstein . The day after she and her husband and three of her children were killed, the entire community went down to the junction and threw stones at passing Palestinian cars, according to her adolescet girl students, who were/are taught from infancy and/or from the womb that they are the Chosen People whose Mission it is to rid the land of the Amelikites. The entire community includes children and mothers with their babies in their arms. It was just about a week ago it was reported a baby was injured by a stone thrown back by a Palestinian, in an altercation likely started by stone throwing illegal settlers.

    There is no moral high ground for these illegal settlers to cling on to, but we never seem to stop seeing them trying to make such claims, they or their supporters and defenders. These are acts of desperation, attacking a man planting a tree on his very own land. But acts that more than anything else operate to expose, to bring into the open, the rapidly increasing depravity of the illegal settler communities. And we see the immoral Israeli Government’s reaction to this moral depravity, they predictably arrest the victims of the attacks.

  22. Sherri Munnerlyn
    October 2, 2011, 6:05 am

    Here is an insight filled quote from the article, “Girls At War,” addressing the illegal settlements and the relationship of the Israeli Government to these illegal settlements:

    “it is also no wonder that natives of Tel Aviv express the fear that it’s not Israel that occupies the West Bank but the West Bank settlers who are now annexing Israel, as they pour more concrete and have more children, who are taking key positions in the army, government, and civil administration, which controls everything here from electricity to water to schools. The settlers embody an essential conflict at the core of the state of Israel. The government acts like an erratic parent to its recalcitrant children, the settlers—sometimes berating and even beating them, other times adoring and financing them, for their messianic faith. The longer I stayed, the harder it was to determine who is using whom: the government that allows the expansion of settlements while hoping to use the radicals as a bargaining chip in future negotiations with the Palestinians, or the radicals themselves, who offer the State of Israel the choice between civil war or abandoning them and their children to life in a Palestinian state.”

    link to tabletmag.com

  23. Whizdom
    October 2, 2011, 10:33 am

    “The landowner of the plot to which the activists came in order to plant trees was also attacked by the settlers who cracked his head open, as well as attacking his wife.”

    The landowner’s wife is a citizen of Israel.

  24. StewartMills
    October 11, 2011, 2:03 pm

    The Israeli authorities have no excuse for prosecuting those settlers involved in the violence. There are clear photographs of the offenders. the persons are well known within the community.

    link to mepeace.org

    The Israeli authorities will only undermine their credibility (and make a mockery of their legal system) if they fail to achieve any convictions or fail to charge anyone because of “offender unknown”.

    The list of crimes (according to Israeli penal law) committed by certain Anatot settlers includes:
    – harm with aggravating intent (s 329) – liable to 20 years imprisonment
    – wounding – liable to 3 years imprisonment (grievous harm is 7 years)
    – unlawful possession of knife – s 186 – liable for 5 years imprisonment
    – common assault (s 379),
    – actual bodily harm (s 380) and
    – hate crimes (s 144F(a))
    – affray (s 191)
    – threats (s 192)

    • Woody Tanaka
      October 11, 2011, 2:22 pm

      The Israeli authorities will only undermine their credibility (and make a mockery of their legal system) if they fail to achieve any convictions or fail to charge anyone because of “offender unknown”.

      I wish I agreed. Frankly, the only people whose opinions they might even consider is the US’s and the US governing class doesn’t give a damn. They’re as sick as the Israelis and half probably think that the criminals didn’t go far enough.

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