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    • Dex
      October 5, 2011, 3:20 pm

      The Camp David 2000 myth is the one that comes up repeatedly to this very day, and drives me up the wall. Israeli propagandists repeat this myth over and over again with NO refutation; if it is a debate, the moderator says nothing, and most of the time, the other side of the debate lets the myth slide. How do we change American public opinion when this is the norm?

      Sidenote: I just discovered a show called “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia,” and Espisode 2 of season 2, entitled “The Gang Goes Jihad” is freakin’ hilarious. It’s about an Israeli businessman who moves to Philly and buys the building nextdoor to the bar the show’s main characters own. He discovers the property line of his building runs through the bar, and wants to take it over. Let’s just say, there are a lot of undertones about the Pal-Israel conflict, and the bar-owners play the part of the Palestinians. Anyone here seen it? Link below…

      http://www.icefilms.info/ip.php?v=2232&

  1. Sin Nombre
    October 5, 2011, 1:04 pm

    Yeah that’s an interesting video story, but I got a better one I think, or at least a more important one.

    Some years ago the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel Danny Ayalon took a video that was put out by the Yesha Council (umbrella organization of the settlers) and put it into English. That video was essentially an argument about how Israel had a rightful claim to the West Bank.

    The Yesha Council/settlers have now put out another video and it’s not known if Ayalon/Israel is going to endorse it, but I’d bet a helluva lot of money this video precisely points the way in which Israeli thinking is going to go and is going to be the precise reasoning behind it eventually, openly saying it’s not in favor of any two-state solution.

    A very very interesting—and, I’d bet eventually, in retrospect, gonna be looked upon as very important as well—video indeed:

    http://blogs.jpost.com/content/settlers-foreign-ministry-and-demographic-demon

    The mind just boggles at the reaction such a slick presentation would engender amongst jew here in the U.S. if produced here and talked about the relative demographics of *any* group whatsoever in any manner at all much less the way this video does with Palestinian demographics.

    Many people talk about how Netanyahu/the Israeli Right or etc. don’t have a plan and are just hurting Israel because they don’t appear to have any real solution in mind of their own.

    Au contraire, this video persuades me.

    • Philip Munger
      October 5, 2011, 3:54 pm

      Some years ago the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel Danny Ayalon took a video that was put out by the Yesha Council (umbrella organization of the settlers) and put it into English. That video was essentially an argument about how Israel had a rightful claim to the West Bank.

      — It is more recent than that – this midsummer. IIRC – Mondoweiss covered it, as did Max Blumenthal and a number of other internet outlets. I wrote about it at MyFiredoglake on July 19th. Danny might have come close to the Dersh for a record number of lies per second.

      Anyone who wants to use the still screenshots I posted in the link above, of Ayalon next to his annexed Jordan, please feel free.

      • Sin Nombre
        October 5, 2011, 10:54 pm

        Apologies to everyone for the misstatement as to when that previous video came out, and sorry I didn’t catch the coverage of that earlier one here or where you wrote about it, Mr. Munger.

      • Philip Munger
        October 6, 2011, 1:59 am

        s’OK, my friend. What you wrote is quite valid.

  2. Chaos4700
    October 5, 2011, 1:06 pm

    That was a bit disappointing, it really wasn’t all that thorough of a report. I will say that I was (and still am) rather furious that Israel is using gay people as human shields to deflect criticism while they inflict a degree of suffering that will find itself on pages across from the Holocaust in future history books.

    • DICKERSON3870
      October 5, 2011, 9:19 pm

      RE: “I was (and still am) rather furious that Israel is using gay people as human shields…” ~ Chaos4700

      SEE: Israel’s Treatment of Gay Palestinian Asylum Seekers ~ by Caroline Esser, The Washington Note, 6/06/11

      (excerpts)…The newest way to sell Israel to Americans: LGBT rights. Search gay rights on the Anti-Defamation League’s website and what do you find? A ready-to-print and available for order poster that reads, “Which of the Middle East nations protects the legal rights, safety & freedom of the LGBT communities? Only Israel.”…
      …In their 2008 study, “Nowhere to Run: Gay Palestinian Asylum-Seekers in Israel,” Michael Kagan and Anat Ben-Dor describe in detail Israel’s unsympathetic and unbending policy towards gay Palestinians…
      …In pursuit of protection and the ability to openly express their sexuality, there have been at least ten cases in which gay Palestinians have sought refuge in Israel. However, despite their desperation, Israel refuses to even review gay Palestinian applications for asylum (those who have successfully received asylum have had to submit their cases directly to the UNHCR headquarters in Geneva). Moreover, gay Palestinians who have illegally entered Israel have been arrested and promptly deported–returned to the very environments in which their lives were at risk and in which they will now face further danger as they are questioned not only for their sexuality but for their choice to spend time in Israel…

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2011/06/israels_treatme/

  3. seafoid
    October 5, 2011, 1:08 pm

    Israel can’t win the PR war. There is just too much info out there and there aren’t enough Ziobots to control it.

    It’s like my company’s firewall. If I try to find song lyrics on line I’ll get “Your request to URL “http://www.metrolyrics.com/rehab-lyrics-amy-winehouse.html” has been blocked by the web filter URL Filter Database.
    The URL is listed in categories (Entertainment, Profanity) which are not allowed by XXX regulations.”

    So then I try the next link . And hey presto! It works!

    Israel has this problem and there is no answer other than

    Always speak the truth. That way you don’t have to remember what you said-

    • RoHa
      October 5, 2011, 8:14 pm

      “Always speak the truth.”

      If you know what it is.

      “That way you don’t have to remember what you said-”

      I don’t have to, anyway. My wife remembers it all.

  4. Shmuel
    October 5, 2011, 1:21 pm

    Not a very good report. Long on Caroline Glick, and short on information. Could Jon Ronson actually be (gasp!) an undercover PubDip agent, or even (horrors!) a Latma plant? Is there no end to hasbara cunning?

    To be continued … (broadcast journo jargon for: ‘I know I haven’t got a story, but I think I’ll run it anyway’).

  5. Ellen
    October 5, 2011, 1:24 pm

    That there is a supposed need to create Hasbara is telling of a need to defend the often indefensible and pathetic.

    All Israel needs to do is stop the occupation, get over itself and make peace.

    As for that lady -what’s-her-name? Her comments were insane and hateful.

    I know not all Israelis think like that, but do many or most? Do those in influence and power think like that?

    If so, it is no different from the thinking of perpetrators of recent genocides.

  6. kursato
    October 5, 2011, 2:42 pm

    Turkey’s PM: Israel a threat due to its atomic bomb
    Erdogan said on Wednesday that he saw Israel as a threat for its region and surrounding countries because it had atomic bomb.

    Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has lashed out at Israel again, saying its possession of nuclear weapons makes it a threat to the region and accusing the Jewish state of implementing “state terrorism.”

    “I see Israel as a threat to its region because it has nuclear weapons. In addition, Israel is an occupying force and implements state terrorism in the region,” Erdoğan said at a conference on Turkish foreign policy in Pretoria, South Africa. When reminded by a participant that Israel has come under attack from Gaza and that a UN panel recently concluded that the Israeli blockade of Gaza is legal, Erdoğan said Israeli bombs killed tens of thousands in Gaza.

    Responding to the participant’s suggestion that weapons and rockets are being smuggled from Egypt to Gaza through a series of tunnels in southern Gaza, Erdoğan said: “Atomic bombs and phosphorus bombs cannot be smuggled through Gaza tunnels. Israel, on the other hand, has bombed Gaza with phosphorus bombs. It is a weapon of mass destruction and it is a crime to use weapons of mass destruction. Small weapons, maybe rifles could be smuggled through these tunnels but tanks cannot, right? But Gaza was besieged by tanks while it was also attacked with phosphorus bombs.”

    Erdoğan also said Israel has nuclear weapons while Iran “is attacked by everyone” because it has a nuclear program. “What kind of justice is this?” he asked.

    more on http://www.todayszaman.com/news-258913-pm-says-israel-threat-to-region-implements-state-terrorism.html

    or http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/turkey-pm-israel-a-nuclear-threat-to-middle-east-1.388330

  7. eGuard
    October 5, 2011, 6:36 pm

    Both Caroline Glick (at 03:28) and Shay Attias (at 08:48) start to smile right after the word “gay”. Why?

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