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  1. seafoid
    November 16, 2011, 3:59 pm

    Jews wouldn’t do something like this.
    Jews have a tragic history of oppression and are very smart.

    Anyway why are there Israeli buses in the occupied territories ?
    Are the occupied territories Israel?

    Are there Israeli buses in Bulgaria ?

    • Kathleen
      November 17, 2011, 10:22 am

      Great points.

      Jewish/Israeli racism being exposed more and more every day. Been a long time coming

  2. ruthieofamerica
    November 16, 2011, 4:22 pm

    I don’t agree with your answer. I think Arabs should be able to ride on buses in any country. In fact, Arabs are STILL riding on buses in Israel.

    Arabs did ride on buses in the Jewish state of Israel from 1948 (actually Egged bus company provided rides to them and everyone beginning in 1933) until recently. Unfortunately, many bombs attacking these buses and everyone who rode on them (Arabs included) made it a dangerous method of travel.

    Actually Palestinian Arabs who live in Israel can and do ride on any bus they choose. They are Israelis. Non-Jews who are citizens of Israel have the same rights as anybody else in the Jewish state.

    Yesterday’s Freedom Riders tried to ride from Ramallah to Jerusalem without permits. They knew they would not be allowed to complete the ride and there were even some complaints that the first buses passed them by and didn’t stop to pick them up. The big signs and Palestinian scarves were indicators that a ride to Jerusalem without incident would not achieve the same publicity value.

    • seafoid
      November 16, 2011, 5:49 pm

      Ruthie

      If you tolerate this your children will be next.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs&ob=av3e

      And someday there will be Jews who require permits to go to the city.
      And of course there won’t be any permits for those Jews.
      And it is not the way to treat Jews, is it?

      It is not the way to treat anyone.

      • ruthieofamerica
        November 16, 2011, 11:01 pm

        I think people should be treated fairly and equally, seafoid.

        Palestinians did not treat the bus driver and passengers fairly when they brought backpacks filled with explosives onto the bus.

        There shouldn’t be bus tickets or bus permits for people who are planning to kill everyone on the bus!

        There is a program being developed to service villages in more parts of Israel. “The new lines are part of Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz’s plan to introduce public transportation into all Arab, Druze and Bedouin cities and villages in the country.

        “’The operation of public transportation in the non- Jewish sector will lead to increases in residents’ employment and particularly in women’s participation, leading to an increase in quality of life,’ said Katz.

        “The first phase will include the introduction of bus lines to the Galilee, with routes to and from Peki’in and Beit Jann, in Wadi Ara for the benefit of Umm el-Fahm residents, and a route for the residents of Fureidis, near Zichron Ya’acov.

        “In the Negev, the Beduin cities of Lakia, Tel Sheva, Chura and Kuseifa will all connect to Beersheba.”

        http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=181156

        I am glad you understand all people should be treated as you yourself wish to be treated.

      • RoHa
        November 16, 2011, 11:34 pm

        “I think people should be treated fairly and equally”

        So you are an anti-Zionist?

      • Chaos4700
        November 16, 2011, 11:35 pm

        I think people should be treated fairly and equally, seafoid.

        If you really believed that, you wouldn’t support Jewish-only Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. Who do you think is fooled by your insincere comments?

      • Avi_G.
        November 17, 2011, 12:08 am

        Actually, ruthie-of-ignorant-Zionism,

        1. Before Israel was founded, and before there was Eged, Palestinians rode on buses that operated by various Palestinian companies. Al-Tamimi was one such company.

        In fact, the Irgun and Lehi used to carry out attacks on Palestinian buses, especially in the north in Safad and Haifa. On several occasions they sprayed buses with automatic weapons. Some, though not the majority, were sentenced to death by the British mandatory government. Since then, Israel has been valorizing those Jewish terrorists, as the “Jewish Underground”. And Israel honors them every year. They are known as Those who were hanged in the gallows, or in Hebrew Oleh Ha-Gerdom.

        2. If anyone made it unsafe for civilians to ride buses, it was your mythical heroes that you worship with your blind love and admiration. Get a clue.

        3. Until the 1970s and the early 1980s, the Palestinian citizens of Israel who rode on Eged buses, were harassed and discriminated against, both by government officials — known as HAGA, the Hebrew acronym for Hitgonenut Ezrahit or Civil Defense — and by random Jewish citizens. But, such harassment and discrimination didn’t stop with the HAGA, it continued well into the present as Palestinian citizens of Israel are routinely singled out before they board buses at bus terminals, whether in Jerusalem, Tel-Aviv or Eilat.

        4. To use Palestinian attacks on buses in the 1990s as an excuse to justify the institutional discrimination against Palestinians is not only lazy, but pathetic. Palestinians under occupation were long discriminated against, well before the first Intifada of 1987. So, go sell your shtick to someone else.

      • kamanja
        November 17, 2011, 6:39 am

        63 years in a country (that came to them without asking), 45 years as citizens (thanks to the end of military government for their “sector”) until they get a bus service? I wouldn’t wish to be treated like that, ruthie, would you?

      • kamanja
        November 17, 2011, 6:52 am

        She isn’t necessarily, but you must be. Zionism and treating people fairly do not have to be antithetical, but it’s such a tired and tiring discussion to get into.

      • eGuard
        November 17, 2011, 8:18 am

        ruthie: There shouldn’t be bus tickets or bus permits for people who are planning to kill everyone on the bus!

        Excellent point! Brilliant! And completely unrelated to the topic.

      • seafoid
        November 17, 2011, 9:31 am

        “There shouldn’t be bus tickets or bus permits for people who are planning to kill everyone on the bus!”

        I don’t judge my Jewish colleagues by the fact that some Jews drop white phosphorous on Gaza. That would be racist.

      • Woody Tanaka
        November 17, 2011, 9:39 am

        “Non-Jews who are citizens of Israel have the same rights as anybody else in the Jewish state. ”

        Well, that’s a lie.

        Damn ruthie, what a bigot you are. Shame on you.

      • Hostage
        November 17, 2011, 9:45 am

        There is a program being developed to service villages in more parts of Israel. . . . “’The operation of public transportation in the non- Jewish sector will lead to increases in residents’ employment and particularly in women’s participation, leading to an increase in quality of life,’

        Separate, but unequal public transportation “sectors”, is really no answer:

        22. The Committee notes with deep concern that separate “sectors” are maintained for Jewish and Arab persons, in particular in the areas of housing and education, and that according to some information, such separation results in unequal treatment and funding. The Committee regrets that information provided by the State party on this matter was not sufficiently detailed. (Articles 3 [racial segregation and apartheid], 5 and 7 of the Convention)

        — Concluding observations of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, Israel, CERD/C/ISR/CO/13, 14 June 2007

      • Kathleen
        November 17, 2011, 10:25 am

        “I think people should be treated fairly and equally, seafoid. ”

        A good way to think. What are you doing to stop the stealing of Palestinian land via the expansion of illegal settlements in the West Bank and illegal housing in E Jerusalem? What are you doing to stop the destruction of Palestinians homes, trees and integrity?

    • RoHa
      November 16, 2011, 7:52 pm

      Before 1948 it was wise for Arabs to ride on buses run by Jewish companies. The Irgun threw bombs into buses run by Arab companies.

      • Avi_G.
        November 17, 2011, 12:11 am

        RoHa says:

        Before 1948 it was wise for Arabs to ride on buses run by Jewish companies. The Irgun threw bombs into buses run by Arab companies.

        But, but, but Israel is a beacon unto the nations, dontyaknow?

      • eljay
        November 17, 2011, 8:04 am

        >> RoHa: Before 1948 it was wise for Arabs to ride on buses run by Jewish companies. The Irgun threw bombs into buses run by Arab companies.

        >> RW: If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.

    • eGuard
      November 17, 2011, 8:14 am

      Arabs are STILL riding on buses in Israel.

      This was not in Israel, ruthie.

      • Kathleen
        November 17, 2011, 10:25 am

        The facts take down weak arguments

  3. Real Jew
    November 16, 2011, 4:24 pm

    Somebody should send this video to R. Goldstone and ask does this fit into his definition of apartheid

  4. Bumblebye
    November 16, 2011, 4:28 pm

    These people have been driven mad by zionism. They are no longer rational, any more than their stupid government! Mooser, please invent a cure for ziocaine addiction, the sooner the better!

  5. seafoid
    November 16, 2011, 5:09 pm

    The more the racism of the settlers is exposed, the better. These are the people who are destroying Judaism from the inside.

  6. Les
    November 16, 2011, 8:10 pm

    Is this a branch of the Hasidic bus line in Brooklyn that runs between Borough Park and Williamsburg?

    • Chaos4700
      November 16, 2011, 11:36 pm

      Probably not, the Israeli bus in Palestine doesn’t make women sit in the back.

      • seafoid
        November 17, 2011, 4:00 am

        Not yet. The Orthodox are working on it. Moshiach hasn’t turned up yet and women are probably responsible, you know.

    • DBG
      November 17, 2011, 12:02 am

      no, did you see they were Israelis? are you trying to equate Judaism with Zionism?

      • Chaos4700
        November 17, 2011, 9:19 am

        Every time we talk about Israel, you shriek “Anti-Semites!” You’re the one who equates Judaism and Zionism, DBG, not us.

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